Episode 149: Alley Beers
Ego & Vice Podcast®December 20, 2024x
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Episode 149: Alley Beers

Alley Beers is a punk band based in Ottawa, Canada. Known for their energetic and humorous take on punk rock, they describe themselves as "three beer-drinking, stinking, jammin' lads making punk rock for your multiple step-dads." Their music often features irreverent, playful lyrics and a raw punk style. Alley Beers are active in the Ottawa’s music scene, frequently performing at local venues like House of Targ, Dominion Tavern, and The 27 Club. They are currently working on thier new EP and are planning more shows and touring in 2025. 

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[00:00:38] You've got a real attitude problem, McFly. You're a slacker.

[00:00:42] Hey, this is Mike. This is Episode 149. This is Ego and Vice.

[00:01:49] It's getting cold out there, but the beauty of the cold comes the snow.

[00:01:54] And with the snow comes my passion, my snowy mistress, and the reason I get out of bed between, say, November and April.

[00:02:04] I get to go snowboarding. And I've already been. I went to Adelweiss the last couple of days.

[00:02:09] And for a short time, everything was right with the world. Everything made sense.

[00:02:15] It's the little things, really. Anyway, back to the show.

[00:02:19] Only two episodes left of Ego and Vice Season 8. This one and one more.

[00:02:27] And then I am taking my winter break.

[00:02:30] A couple months... Ooh!

[00:02:32] Almost forgot. The big news that I have is my band, The Riptides, have officially announced that we are with Pirates Press Records.

[00:02:41] Amazing, amazing record label out of California. Look it up. Some incredible bands on that label.

[00:02:49] We are stoked to be affiliated with it and to be bandmates with so many legendary and influential bands.

[00:02:56] Yeah, it's fucking rad. And we're really looking forward to our future with them.

[00:03:02] Yeah, the new record under Pirates Press comes out probably by the springtime, I believe, approximately.

[00:03:07] But the new Riptides single off the new record comes out January 20th with the video attached.

[00:03:14] So look for that. And 2025 is going to be a pretty crazy year.

[00:03:21] Definitely a tour. Lots of shows. And lots of fun. Lots of work. Let's go.

[00:03:27] Anyway. But I'll always have time for Ego and Vice. Ego and Vice won't stop. Season 9 coming your way.

[00:03:35] Right after my winter break. But! But! We're not done yet. We still have an episode right now.

[00:03:41] On this episode, I had a couple members of the local band. The local punk band. Allie Beers on.

[00:03:49] I had Devin and I had Colton. Zayn couldn't make it. But maybe that'll be another day.

[00:03:56] Awesome guys. Super fun band. Don't take themselves too seriously. Just having a good time.

[00:04:04] Playing punk rock. The way it should be.

[00:04:09] Anywho, let's get to a song. This song that I'm going to play is called Dom Tonight.

[00:04:17] A love letter, if you will, to the legendary venue, the Dominion Tavern.

[00:04:23] The punk rock bar downtown in the Byward Market in Ottawa.

[00:04:28] If you've been there, you know it. If you know it, you love it.

[00:04:33] It's the Dom. Going down to the Dom Tonight. I played there many times.

[00:04:37] And, uh, we should all be happy that it's there.

[00:04:41] Go to the Dom. Right now. Like, stop listening to the podcast.

[00:04:46] Well, maybe finish listening to the podcast. Then go to the Dom.

[00:04:50] This is Allie Beers. Dom Tonight. Right here on Ego and Vice.

[00:04:56] Outside another party.

[00:07:25] Hey, we're back. This is Ego and Vice, episode 149.

[00:07:28] As promised in the intro, I have two members from the local band.

[00:07:32] Allie Beers in South Hood studio.

[00:07:36] Fresh in out from the cold, watching the Bob's Burgers on the, taking the Uber ride.

[00:07:41] I'm really, I like when people make an effort and they spend money to actually come here.

[00:07:45] The Uber. Let's talk about Uber.

[00:07:47] Oh, first of all, I'm sorry. Please introduce yourself. What you do. Who you are.

[00:07:53] Hey, what's up? I'm Colton. I play bass and sing in Allie Beers.

[00:07:57] I'm Dev. I try to play guitar and sing in Allie Beers also. Hell yeah.

[00:08:03] Yeah. All right. We're, we're, we're like regular raps, galleons, center town rats, skullet wearing Shania Twain loving bandits.

[00:08:11] I think is the best way to put that.

[00:08:13] Yeah. I'm sensing a Shania Twain theme, which I think we'll have to get to some at some point, but we don't want to jump ahead of ourselves.

[00:08:19] How was the Uber ride these days? Like I haven't been in an Uber and probably, I don't know, a couple of years.

[00:08:27] Honestly, they're not bad nowadays. It's just like, I don't know.

[00:08:30] Has the prices gone up? Remember when there was that big battle between like blue line taxi and like Uber and they had like the, they almost had like a riot at the airport or something?

[00:08:39] Not even now. It's actually super cheap nowadays, but then whenever you get in the Uber, you get confronted of like how much you pay for the Uber now.

[00:08:45] From who? The driver?

[00:08:47] Yeah. Why? He just wants you to...

[00:08:50] I think Uber, like the company is like sucking away more of their wages than they used to.

[00:08:53] Hmm. Well, that is, uh, that is the gig economy. Those guys don't really have a lot of, uh, say or sway. Right. I did, uh, during the pandemic, um, as a little side hustle, I did Uber Eats.

[00:09:06] Yeah.

[00:09:06] I made pretty good money. I owe like a whole bunch of taxes on it. Whoops.

[00:09:12] I'll have to edit that out. But, uh, cause then you, yeah, you just, you get what you pay, what they pay. Like if you make a thousand bucks, they give you a thousand bucks, but you're supposed to like chop it up into...

[00:09:22] Do your own accounting or whatever.

[00:09:23] Yeah. But if you don't do that, then it's all yours and you spend it all and you buy nice things and you hide from the CRS.

[00:09:31] I don't think they listen to this.

[00:09:33] You'll never catch me alive.

[00:09:34] Yeah. So I know that, uh, Devin, you are in the very, um, established and successful local band Fifth.

[00:09:45] Which band?

[00:09:47] Fifth.

[00:09:49] Oh, crazy. Oh yes. Oh yes. I remember Fifth. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:09:52] Maybe, maybe, maybe.

[00:09:53] When I take a break from Alley Beers, I usually do, I dabble in Fifth. Yeah.

[00:09:56] Yeah. Sometimes, eh? Yeah. Sometimes it comes along.

[00:09:58] Only on weekends.

[00:09:59] Um, Colton, outside of Alley Beers, do you have any, uh, other projects? What's going on?

[00:10:07] I'm also the mascot Wayne for Fifth.

[00:10:10] Oh.

[00:10:10] Mascot reveal. This is the first time he's done it publicly.

[00:10:13] Gotcha. Mascot reveal. Well, luckily this is audio only. As I said before, I don't do video because like I said, there's only so many hours in the week.

[00:10:23] And imagine, imagine everyone got the mascot face reveal too. Oh man.

[00:10:27] A lot of people saw my face last night. Yeah.

[00:10:29] I took off the suit and I was like wearing it halfway and I just walked to the bar and I was like, hey, I need water. Yeah.

[00:10:35] So a lot of people saw me last night. Oh, it's a cat's out of the bag. Well, Colton's out of the Yeti.

[00:10:39] Speaking of Fifth, shortly, um, you guys had a gig last night at the Bronson Center with some other local bands. So I'm happy you made it. He said it was a bit of a late night. And I don't, the irony of you guys being three beer drinking, stinking jamming lads making punk rock for your middle, or sorry, multiple stepdads in a band called Alley Beers are in a sober household.

[00:11:06] Yes.

[00:11:06] But I, I, I miss the good old days. I do. So how are you feeling?

[00:11:12] I can tell you missed the good old days because I walked in with a, with another canned drink. You're like, do you have a beer?

[00:11:16] I was like, no man, no, no, no. We only drink them in alleys. Not, not in like sober households.

[00:11:21] No.

[00:11:22] I too have been a long time member, active member of the Ottawa music scene. And I've lived my life playing shows and played in bands. And I too have gone down that road of endless debauchery to a point where I had to get off that road.

[00:11:37] Yeah, fair.

[00:11:38] I was, everything was good. It's just, you reach a point where it's just like, not to be like the, the, the public service announcement, but from my quick experience, alcohol seems like a good time until it starts like methodically and slowly destroying every little aspect of your fucking life.

[00:11:56] Yeah.

[00:11:56] Which it will eventually, which it will eventually, but then you have to kind of pick up the pieces. Anyway, enough about fifth. Was, was that not enough band for you guys? Like you needed to, to venture off and, and, and scratch an itch? Like where did Allie beers come from?

[00:12:12] So Allie beers came from, um, for me, cause like I had never played music my whole life. I only started playing last year. I finally took up bass cause Zane was, I was living with Zane at the time and Zane looked at me and he's just like, you have a bass in the corner. Start learning how to play it. You can't look like a band member if you're just gonna, if you're not going to play.

[00:12:33] That's fair.

[00:12:33] So over like last winter, I just decided to play bass. And then all of a sudden, um, I told Devin and Zane that I wanted to be in a band and then right away they're like, Kate, you're in, but you're not taking the high road out. You're going to be learning. Like, so.

[00:12:47] That's like, that's like the Sid Vicious effect. You know, you had everything going for you to be in a band except if you didn't play anything.

[00:12:54] No.

[00:12:55] And that's what they did. They said, you look great. We'll teach you.

[00:12:58] Zane came up to me and he's like, Hey Dev, uh, I'm like, yo, what's up Zane? He's like, uh, you're another band now.

[00:13:03] I'm like, Oh yeah. Like which one, man? That sounds cool. He's like, uh, yeah, we're in a band with Colton. It's going to be Allie Beers. I'm just like, sick, let's fucking go. And we've been ripping and tearing ever since.

[00:13:12] Cool. And Allie Beers is definitely, do you consider yourselves a punk band?

[00:13:16] Yeah, we're shit post punk.

[00:13:17] Shit post punk. I like that.

[00:13:19] Yeah. That was very confident said too. Cause sometimes when you ask people like, what's your band? They're like, oh, we don't really like to be labeled. You just came straight down the middle with it.

[00:13:29] Oh, it's the only thing we could call it.

[00:13:30] I appreciate that.

[00:13:31] Yeah, pretty much. Um, sounds cool. How long, how long, like when did, did you guys just get together and just there, there it was like, how did it, how did it kind of progress?

[00:13:40] So the year was 1852. No, um, we definitely drank some beers in an alley, sat down on a couch and just started like, I don't know, rhyming shit off. Like we're all good buddies.

[00:13:53] So we just did the conversations. We always did took the highlights of that and then just made them all into songs.

[00:13:59] Yeah, pretty much. Like all of our ideas have always come together and just like us doing random stupid things on a weekend.

[00:14:05] And then all of a sudden we're like, Hey, let's turn this into a song. And then boom.

[00:14:09] Yeah. Don't read too much into crop dust.

[00:14:13] Um, but everyone is very familiar with the crop dust. Oh yeah. Cause you can't avoid it when it happens. Um, for songwriting, like you said, do you, I guess you guys just write together and you just come up with stuff.

[00:14:25] Yeah. It's definitely an everybody's in thing. And if you notice in the songs, like it's all of us singing too.

[00:14:30] And especially live, we do like a, like a beastie boys thing where we all like have our own parts and we sing together and stuff like that.

[00:14:35] Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. And we all contribute. We all write the music. We all write the lyrics and yeah, it's very collaborative.

[00:14:42] Cause it's a, it's a, it's a bro band, you know what I mean? And by that, I mean like it's three, like three really good friends making music together.

[00:14:50] Cool. And do you want to give a shout out to Zane?

[00:14:53] Like let's talk about him for a minute. Nah, he ain't even here, man.

[00:14:56] Okay. No, no, no, no, no. He got plenty last night.

[00:14:59] Yeah. No. Want to say something nice about Zane?

[00:15:03] He has really nice hair. I don't know.

[00:15:05] Zane does have really nice hair. No, Zane's awesome. He's like, um, everyone knows he's like, um, a force in the music scene in Ottawa.

[00:15:14] And, uh, I'm very like honored to be playing music with him. He's a, he's a machine and, uh, doing this with Zane and Colton is, uh, just a shitload of fun.

[00:15:23] And he's been such a really good mentor to me too, as well. Like he's been teaching me so much about like how the recording goes, writing processes, learning stuff and just being like, yeah, he can be a little hard sometimes.

[00:15:34] But at the same time, he's just like, he's so passionate about his music and having him as a coach and a mentor has just been great too, as well.

[00:15:41] Cool. So being in a band for as short as you've been in a band and playing music, is it everything you thought it was going to be? And more?

[00:15:49] Or?

[00:15:51] It's not, it's, it's a lot. Yeah.

[00:15:53] It's a lot to like take cause like, you just don't, you don't understand the process of how musicians go through stuff until you're actually in it.

[00:16:01] Before I was just like, oh, recording, that must be easy. And then all of a sudden like you're in it and you're like, oh my God, this is actually like a project now.

[00:16:07] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:16:08] So like, I thought it was going to be a lot easier, but it's actually harder than I thought it was.

[00:16:12] But it's fun. The best part is I like the hard work though.

[00:16:16] Yeah.

[00:16:16] You know what I mean? Because you get results out of that. And it's funny being when you said recording yet.

[00:16:21] Where did you record?

[00:16:22] We recorded a Jam Spot studio on, it's on St. Laurent.

[00:16:26] Okay.

[00:16:26] A guy named Mitch Davies. He does the Gilgamesh stuff, the Gallo Spine stuff.

[00:16:30] Okay.

[00:16:32] Allie Beer stuff and a bunch of other stuff. Yeah. So he's got a studio there.

[00:16:36] We did all the recordings and we're going to do our future recordings with him as well.

[00:16:39] Cool, cool, cool. Like I was saying in recording though, if you break it all down, like when you're jamming together, you kind of play together.

[00:16:45] So it's whatever. But when it comes to your part, did you record everything individually?

[00:16:50] Like digitally, like Pro Tools or did you just do live off the floor type of thing?

[00:16:53] We just changed. Initially, it was individually everything.

[00:16:57] And then for our latest single, we just recorded.

[00:17:01] It was all individually tracked, but we all just played it at the same time.

[00:17:04] And like, so everything was recorded at the same time, but through like interfaces and DIs and stuff.

[00:17:10] And then, but with large drum mics.

[00:17:12] So we were just doing individuals and now it's becoming kind of an off the floor thing, but then it's still quantized and polished.

[00:17:17] That's, yeah, that's the way to, that's kind of do it.

[00:17:20] Cause you isolate it after it's played off the floor, but that's how you get like the live energy.

[00:17:23] I find like a lot of recording when you break it up digitally that sometimes Pro Tools is like, or systems like Pro Tools are the best things for like music because of so much you can do with it.

[00:17:35] But they can also like just absolutely pull the soul out of it.

[00:17:38] Right.

[00:17:39] But if you can do live off the floor, individual tracks and isolate them and then mix it that way.

[00:17:43] It's awesome.

[00:17:43] And I have a feeling Allie Beers is probably a band that live is your strength anyway.

[00:17:49] Right.

[00:17:50] You guys probably just running around like, I don't know.

[00:17:53] It's definitely a live thing.

[00:17:55] Mitch at Jam Spot Studios has done a great job of turning just our shenanigans into something that actually sounds really good.

[00:18:02] So that's even more accolades to them for doing that.

[00:18:05] But yeah, our live shows, we, we go crazy.

[00:18:08] There's a whole bunch of extra little pieces that we bring to that.

[00:18:12] Lots of like laughs.

[00:18:14] Like we're definitely like interacting with the audience and just being kind of boneheads, but in like a good community way.

[00:18:19] And that doesn't really shine through on like the recorded music.

[00:18:22] We like to put on a crazy show too.

[00:18:25] Yeah.

[00:18:25] Well, I've always said that performance, like playing live music is, is, is a form of performance art.

[00:18:33] You can, you can orchestrate and choreograph like a show, but if you're just kind of a bunch of fucking knuckleheads anyway, it comes across better.

[00:18:41] And the show is kind of fun.

[00:18:43] And if you're having fun, you know, when, you know, when someone starts laughing, you kind of, you kind of laugh with them.

[00:18:47] You don't even know what they're laughing at.

[00:18:48] But it's the same thing with like energy.

[00:18:50] You can pass that energy over and it just, I don't know.

[00:18:53] I think punk rock's a party anyway, right?

[00:18:55] Like if you just want to go out and if you take punk rock too seriously, you become some like weird political band that's trying to change the world.

[00:19:01] I think.

[00:19:02] We're just trying to be the first punk band that all have their PhDs.

[00:19:06] Oh, sure.

[00:19:06] And that really try to yell about crop dust.

[00:19:10] And by PhDs, it means we're pretty hot dudes.

[00:19:12] Oh, I see.

[00:19:12] I was going to say, if you're serious about the PhDs, you'd have to get in line.

[00:19:18] Actually, there's a lot of smart punk rockers out there.

[00:19:21] Nerds.

[00:19:22] Nerds.

[00:19:23] Nah, we love the nerds too.

[00:19:25] Don't hurt us.

[00:19:25] Anyway.

[00:19:26] Anyway.

[00:19:26] So the release, I guess you would call it an EP?

[00:19:33] Yeah, we're singling it out, but it's going to be released as a brick eventually.

[00:19:36] Okay.

[00:19:36] So what's been released so far?

[00:19:39] So we got crop dust, Dwayne Wreck, and Dom Tonight.

[00:19:42] Dom Tonight.

[00:19:43] And Dom Tonight is obviously referring to the Dominion Tavern.

[00:19:48] Yes.

[00:19:48] Which is probably the home of the Dirty Punk Rock band.

[00:19:52] I've played the Dominion many times in my life.

[00:19:55] Yeah, and they do way more gigs now too.

[00:19:57] Yeah.

[00:19:58] Yeah, that's good.

[00:19:59] I think after the pandemic, everything kind of fucking picked up because there's more demand

[00:20:02] for it.

[00:20:03] I find there's even more bands now than there was.

[00:20:06] Yeah, a lot of people came out of hiding and stuff.

[00:20:08] Yeah.

[00:20:08] Well, yeah, for sure.

[00:20:09] And now it's like, Ottawa's not a huge city, but you only have select places to play

[00:20:18] that are the pillar venues, I find.

[00:20:21] Like you got Targ, you got the Dom, you got Saw, those kind of places, Rainbow, that

[00:20:26] kind of stuff.

[00:20:29] Those are the places you want to play.

[00:20:30] So the number of bands and the number of artists that want to go out there, these small

[00:20:37] handful of venues have to accommodate it.

[00:20:39] So that's probably why there's just like shows every night.

[00:20:41] Yeah, we've been pretty fortunate too.

[00:20:43] We've played Dom, Targ, and 27 Club already.

[00:20:47] Yeah, pretty much.

[00:20:48] Yeah.

[00:20:48] How is the...

[00:20:50] I'm in a band called Goat, and I've always thought the punk scene in Ottawa was hit and

[00:20:55] miss.

[00:20:57] Now, I know with your other band, whom we won't mention because they've had enough air

[00:21:01] time on the Alley Beers podcast, I think the draws...

[00:21:06] You guys could play anywhere, and the draws have been really, really good.

[00:21:10] How is the punk scene doing?

[00:21:12] Do you find it's the same level of support?

[00:21:14] I don't want to speak for the whole punk scene, but in our alley...

[00:21:24] We find we just have lots of friends that are in the music scene.

[00:21:27] The music scene right now is so tight.

[00:21:29] You let people that don't play in punk bands come into your punk show just because they're

[00:21:32] friends or they know it's going to be a good time or it's Friday night or whatever.

[00:21:36] You know what I mean?

[00:21:37] So I find...

[00:21:37] I think there's just good scene health in general.

[00:21:40] People are going to see live music.

[00:21:43] And so there's not just all punk showing up to an Alley Beers show.

[00:21:46] There's everybody.

[00:21:47] You know?

[00:21:47] It's someone's mom.

[00:21:47] It is an actual crust punk guy.

[00:21:51] Or it's like, you know, it's just a smorgasbord of people.

[00:21:53] Yeah.

[00:21:54] I get that.

[00:21:55] I get that.

[00:21:55] And there definitely is certain corners of the Ottawa scene where Fifth is involved.

[00:22:01] Like the bands you played with last night, like New Hires and...

[00:22:04] Who else was there?

[00:22:05] Neon Ghost House?

[00:22:05] Yeah.

[00:22:06] Complicit.

[00:22:07] Complicit.

[00:22:07] And you're all part of like a community.

[00:22:10] Like I've used the term before, community.

[00:22:12] Like there's this part of the scene and then there's this part of the scene.

[00:22:15] And if you go to the Brass Monkey, you got the hair metal part of the scene.

[00:22:18] All that kind of stuff.

[00:22:19] Anyway.

[00:22:22] So fans of your other band, you'll see at an Alley Punk show or an Alley Beers show.

[00:22:27] Some of them.

[00:22:28] The crossover is not as crazy as you think.

[00:22:30] We have people that definitely come to Alley Beers shows that wouldn't even go to the

[00:22:34] other band's show either.

[00:22:35] Oh.

[00:22:35] So it's healthy either way, but it's not necessarily the same people.

[00:22:39] Is it a good balance?

[00:22:42] In what respect?

[00:22:44] Well, I don't think Fifth and Alley Beers are the same kind of genre.

[00:22:48] Well, a little bit.

[00:22:49] They're just rock and roll, I guess.

[00:22:52] Do you get the itches scratched for both?

[00:22:55] Like you must do them both for a reason.

[00:22:58] Definitely.

[00:22:59] They're for different things.

[00:23:00] The reason I really like Alley Beers is because we get to jam with homie Colton and we get

[00:23:05] to all go figure this out.

[00:23:07] It's like we're starting a band again.

[00:23:08] It's like we're 18 and just going for it.

[00:23:11] That's the energy we're trying to bring.

[00:23:12] Cool.

[00:23:12] And so that has a celebration all its own, just doing that.

[00:23:19] I find this is right to our core so fun, just being like buttheads.

[00:23:24] It's what I think is a great part of all of our personalities that we're choosing to let

[00:23:28] shine.

[00:23:29] Cool.

[00:23:29] And you're kind of living vicariously through his new experiences.

[00:23:34] A little bit.

[00:23:35] Yeah.

[00:23:35] Because most of us are all grizzled punk rockers and then it's like you're getting all

[00:23:41] these brand new experiences.

[00:23:42] I'm jealous of his beard.

[00:23:43] Yeah, that's a pretty good one.

[00:23:46] Especially.

[00:23:46] There's a lot of things I'm jealous about but that one's hitting me really hard today.

[00:23:49] That's a good December beard.

[00:23:51] It fits his toque.

[00:23:52] You know the toque in the beard?

[00:23:54] Oh, it's every day.

[00:23:55] You should see the skullet.

[00:23:56] You can't see us or smell us through this podcast.

[00:23:58] Oh, that's not bad.

[00:23:59] That's not bad.

[00:24:00] Let's get grimy again.

[00:24:03] My.

[00:24:04] That has full potential.

[00:24:04] Yeah, the drummer for Goat, my old drummer, he had the perfect, like he actually had the

[00:24:09] island where it was just like the.

[00:24:11] Like the Friar Tuck kind of thing?

[00:24:12] And long but it was like, he could like shine the top of his head.

[00:24:16] Crazy.

[00:24:16] No little bits and stuff like that.

[00:24:18] Holding on, it was gone.

[00:24:20] That's legendary.

[00:24:20] And he grew the back.

[00:24:21] That's legendary.

[00:24:22] I don't know.

[00:24:22] And he, yeah.

[00:24:23] Does he want to be my dad?

[00:24:25] He might be your dad.

[00:24:26] He was pretty old, that guy.

[00:24:27] Yeah.

[00:24:27] I knew him.

[00:24:29] I knew him from Thunder Bay.

[00:24:30] Like I met him and he was like, I was like 17 when I met him.

[00:24:34] And he was like 25.

[00:24:35] Gotcha.

[00:24:36] Yeah.

[00:24:36] But he was an awesome drummer.

[00:24:37] So we just, he just played in all our kid bands.

[00:24:40] And then growing up, he just, anyway.

[00:24:42] God, he's must be.

[00:24:43] I don't even know now.

[00:24:45] I haven't talked to him in a while.

[00:24:46] Anyway.

[00:24:47] Do you guys know who B.A.

[00:24:48] Johnson is?

[00:24:49] Yes.

[00:24:49] And he has a song called Allie Beers.

[00:24:51] Is that accident?

[00:24:52] Totally accident.

[00:24:53] I went to go find our own band on Spotify and I saw that.

[00:24:56] I'm like, oh yeah, I forgot about that.

[00:24:58] Fuck.

[00:25:00] Speaking of Thunder Bay, I was up there for Christmas one time, probably 10 years ago, maybe, I guess.

[00:25:07] And I just wandered downtown, whatever downtown is in Thunder Bay by myself.

[00:25:11] And there was this shitty little club.

[00:25:12] I think it was like the Pirates Pub or something like the Pirates.

[00:25:15] That sounds awesome.

[00:25:15] And B.A.

[00:25:16] Johnson was playing.

[00:25:17] Oh, what?

[00:25:18] Yeah.

[00:25:18] I have a picture of it.

[00:25:19] I'm like, B.A.

[00:25:19] Johnson.

[00:25:20] Because I saw him, I knew who he was.

[00:25:22] Yeah.

[00:25:22] I ran into him in Thunder Bay one time.

[00:25:24] Absolute legend.

[00:25:25] Yeah.

[00:25:26] So yeah, I saw the Allie Beers when I was looking for, doing my crackhead research on you guys.

[00:25:32] And the B.A.

[00:25:33] Johnson popped up.

[00:25:34] So I thought maybe, because it's kind of a weird two words put together.

[00:25:38] I figured you're paying homage, if you will, to dirty old B.A.

[00:25:42] We became friends drinking a lot of beers in Allies.

[00:25:46] Very good.

[00:25:46] And that's where I got the name from.

[00:25:48] Good.

[00:25:49] Good.

[00:25:50] It's a good name.

[00:25:50] Sounds like a punk band.

[00:25:52] Let's play a song.

[00:25:54] Let's do it.

[00:25:54] What would you like to play, and would you like to introduce one?

[00:25:58] This song is called Twain Wreck, and it's a song about one of the band members getting

[00:26:03] too drunk at a blues fest.

[00:26:06] You heard him.

[00:26:07] This is Twain Wreck by Allie Beers, right here on Ego and Vice.

[00:28:09] Okay.

[00:28:10] Okay.

[00:28:11] So Allie Beers, like I said, you guys have played the Dom.

[00:28:14] You've played Targ.

[00:28:15] What do you have planned for 2025?

[00:28:17] What do you want to do?

[00:28:18] What do you want to do with Allie Beers?

[00:28:19] Man, that's like more than a week from now.

[00:28:22] Oh, boy.

[00:28:22] No, I'm just joking.

[00:28:24] No, we definitely want to get on the road.

[00:28:26] Start playing in Montreal and Toronto, Cornwall, just like outside of Ottawa.

[00:28:31] But Ottawa's getting crazier, man.

[00:28:32] There's been...

[00:28:33] I remember there was one night when there was three sold out rock shows in Ottawa.

[00:28:37] And for people not in Ottawa, that's crazy.

[00:28:40] Yeah, that's fair.

[00:28:41] Were they Ottawa bands?

[00:28:43] Yeah, locals.

[00:28:44] Oh, wow.

[00:28:44] Yeah, yeah.

[00:28:45] That's...

[00:28:47] There was an ongoing thing about in Ottawa forever where it's just like, it's great to

[00:28:51] be in a band in Ottawa, but nobody goes to see live music.

[00:28:54] And it was like after the pandemic, it just kind of exploded.

[00:28:57] And it's awesome to see that people still want to see like bands and not just go to clubs

[00:29:04] and like dance and stuff.

[00:29:07] And like you said, even if they're not fans, they're out supporting, you know, local.

[00:29:13] And I don't know.

[00:29:14] I think it's super important.

[00:29:15] That's what I do with the podcast.

[00:29:16] I just want to give back to the local because I've taken so much from it for 25 years.

[00:29:20] You know what I mean?

[00:29:21] You can see a whole pile of local in the corner.

[00:29:23] You've been holding it for years like a dragon.

[00:29:25] It's a big fucking pile.

[00:29:27] I had to throw some local out the other day.

[00:29:29] Don't touch it.

[00:29:29] You're wasting local?

[00:29:31] Yeah.

[00:29:32] It was just tipping over.

[00:29:34] I'd throw it out.

[00:29:34] Look at all this fucking local.

[00:29:37] But it's true.

[00:29:38] You know what I mean?

[00:29:39] And yeah.

[00:29:40] Yeah, we're excited to go from other places and always happy to come back to Ottawa.

[00:29:46] So yeah, we definitely want to hit up Montreal.

[00:29:48] That's a big goal.

[00:29:49] We're going to like, I don't know, try to go see all those places together.

[00:29:53] Have a good time.

[00:29:54] Make more connections, meaningful connections with like-minded people.

[00:29:57] It's going to be cool.

[00:29:58] I think that's the true test of how you're going to do or how you like music is you got

[00:30:04] to jump in a van with three of your fucking hungover buddies, farting hungover buddies for

[00:30:10] fucking eight weeks.

[00:30:12] Yeah, that's true.

[00:30:13] We don't stink.

[00:30:13] We smell like roses.

[00:30:14] Yeah.

[00:30:15] Sleeping on top of each other, head to feet.

[00:30:18] We've done that plenty with each other already.

[00:30:21] Getting really comfy.

[00:30:23] That's it.

[00:30:24] Touring can be really, really fun and touring can also be fucking nasty.

[00:30:31] But as long as you get to play and then you look back on it and like I said, it's one

[00:30:35] of those things where you don't remember the bad stuff.

[00:30:37] Sometimes you do.

[00:30:38] But you mainly remember the good stuff and then you hit the road again and you remember

[00:30:44] why you hated it the first time immediately.

[00:30:46] Hey, give us a chance, man.

[00:30:49] We'll come out swigging.

[00:30:50] I promise.

[00:30:51] Yeah.

[00:30:52] And one thing you have to do if you ever get in a van for long periods of time, take like

[00:30:58] cold effects and shit because you forget that you're in close proximity with like four

[00:31:03] other people for a long time and it's just a big rolling fucking cab of germs.

[00:31:08] That's very true.

[00:31:09] Especially with all the licking.

[00:31:10] I got like almost strep throat one time.

[00:31:14] We were, I'm in a van called The Riptides.

[00:31:16] We went from Ottawa to North Carolina because we were going through Texas and just it was

[00:31:23] wintertime having the four of us in the car together.

[00:31:25] I almost got strep throat.

[00:31:26] So for like half the tour, I couldn't even talk to the point where we were in Corpus

[00:31:30] Christi, Texas.

[00:31:31] And my tonsil, I was like, I was doing that and it like ripped off.

[00:31:36] Half my tonsil ripped off.

[00:31:37] Whoa.

[00:31:38] And I took a picture of it.

[00:31:39] I was like, what the fuck was that?

[00:31:40] I had super sore throat.

[00:31:41] I spit it out.

[00:31:42] I guess it was so infected that it kind of like rotted or something.

[00:31:45] And I have a picture of it on the sidewalk, my tonsil.

[00:31:48] And I look at my throat.

[00:31:49] I went to my doctor because I didn't think that was possible.

[00:31:52] Yeah.

[00:31:52] And when I open my mouth, you can see one of my tonsils and the other one is just a

[00:31:56] jagged fucking thing.

[00:31:57] Damn.

[00:31:58] Oh, damn.

[00:31:58] And that was all from my fucking diseased bandmates giving me some weird fucking

[00:32:06] tuberculitis.

[00:32:07] I don't know what happened, but yeah, it was bad.

[00:32:08] That's insane.

[00:32:09] Yeah.

[00:32:10] But everyone was eating like, everyone was eating like Whataburger and shit like

[00:32:14] that, that they really wanted to eat in the States.

[00:32:16] And I could, I was drinking like milkshakes, but swallowing on the side.

[00:32:20] But I had to play like 12 shows.

[00:32:23] Sucked.

[00:32:23] Yeah.

[00:32:24] It sounds pretty rough.

[00:32:25] Hopefully we won't lose any of our body parts.

[00:32:28] Or spit them out on the pavement.

[00:32:30] Oh, my other kidney.

[00:32:31] Yeah.

[00:32:31] My girlfriend, my girlfriend, I want to show her the picture, but she won't even look

[00:32:35] at it.

[00:32:35] She's like, I don't want to see that shit.

[00:32:36] I've seen too much.

[00:32:37] I'm like, that's, yeah, it's a fucking, no, you're a poor sport.

[00:32:41] That's a true test.

[00:32:42] Yeah.

[00:32:42] Look at it.

[00:32:44] No, please.

[00:32:44] Let's do it.

[00:32:45] No.

[00:32:46] So how many songs do you think is going to be on the full release when you actually

[00:32:50] get it out?

[00:32:51] I think we're doing six or seven songs.

[00:32:54] Or is it?

[00:32:54] No.

[00:32:55] Oh, that was fine.

[00:32:56] Five or six songs, some of that.

[00:32:57] Did you have a time frame?

[00:32:59] You guys don't seem like a plan ahead, like a map it all out kind of.

[00:33:05] No, there's a master plan.

[00:33:06] Oh, there is.

[00:33:06] We have one of those crazy walls with all the red strings and all the pictures and

[00:33:11] everything.

[00:33:11] With a picture of his face right in the middle?

[00:33:13] Yeah.

[00:33:13] All the strings lead from there.

[00:33:16] And we're thinking world domination by like, I don't know, 21, 47.

[00:33:22] That's realistic.

[00:33:23] Yeah.

[00:33:23] Yeah.

[00:33:23] That's very true.

[00:33:24] Yeah.

[00:33:24] So it all lines up with that.

[00:33:26] If everything goes well, it should be good.

[00:33:28] Well, that's good.

[00:33:30] As long as there's a plan.

[00:33:32] Exactly.

[00:33:32] As long as we draw with crayon, we're good.

[00:33:34] That's right.

[00:33:34] Then it's actually more official.

[00:33:35] Yeah.

[00:33:35] If you stop eating them all, I can't.

[00:33:37] I say, yeah, I say the blue ones are so good.

[00:33:40] I say in most cases, just kind of wing it.

[00:33:42] You know what I mean?

[00:33:43] Like, there's no rush.

[00:33:44] Oh, no.

[00:33:44] We're just having such a good time.

[00:33:45] So as the songs come, we put them out.

[00:33:47] And as the shows pop up or we schedule them, we just jump on them.

[00:33:52] We're very much.

[00:33:53] Yeah.

[00:33:54] I wouldn't say it's like this walking around like, we whatever happens.

[00:33:58] We're putting out more than intention.

[00:34:00] We're actively cultivating shows, actively cultivating music.

[00:34:03] We're hitting the ground running with like pro recordings right off the bat.

[00:34:07] It seems like it's this like nebulous idea or band that's floating around.

[00:34:12] But if you like pay attention, you could see that it's all very like, if not structured

[00:34:17] and organized, at least decisive.

[00:34:18] And it knows what it wants.

[00:34:20] Cool.

[00:34:21] Yeah.

[00:34:22] I think that's really good.

[00:34:23] There's a lot of bands out there that will get together and try and book shows when they

[00:34:28] have like two songs and they have been playing together for like a month.

[00:34:31] And there's other bands that even though they can play, they'll sit on it for a year before

[00:34:36] they play their first show.

[00:34:37] Right.

[00:34:37] Just to get everything fucking all the pieces in line.

[00:34:40] No, we were definitely get a set worth the music, then rip band-aids right off, jump

[00:34:45] in, play them.

[00:34:47] It's only punk rock, man.

[00:34:48] You know?

[00:34:49] You're not changing the world for another 121 years, I think.

[00:34:54] 123, but yeah.

[00:34:55] 21, 47, something like that.

[00:34:56] So you got plenty of time.

[00:34:57] You got fucking plenty of time.

[00:35:00] Hell yeah.

[00:35:00] We're just going to be like little fish tanks with heads in it and robot bodies.

[00:35:04] It's going to be good.

[00:35:05] Just like Futurama?

[00:35:06] Yeah.

[00:35:07] Have like little hands come out of the jars.

[00:35:09] But man, when that happens though, it's going to be crazy.

[00:35:11] Yeah, I think so.

[00:35:12] 21, 48 is going to be gnarly.

[00:35:13] 21, 48.

[00:35:14] Not bad.

[00:35:16] Do you have anything coming up?

[00:35:19] Yeah, we actually have a charity show on December 20th at the Dominion Tavern.

[00:35:23] And it's a charity show.

[00:35:25] And if this podcast comes out after that, yeah, let us know how it was.

[00:35:31] Yeah, please let us know.

[00:35:33] When's the show?

[00:35:34] 28?

[00:35:35] The 20th.

[00:35:36] The 20th.

[00:35:36] Oh, what day is that?

[00:35:38] Today is what?

[00:35:39] The 15th?

[00:35:40] So that's Friday?

[00:35:40] Yeah.

[00:35:41] Yeah, Friday.

[00:35:41] This will be out Thursday night.

[00:35:43] So Friday morning, this will be out.

[00:35:45] Boom.

[00:35:45] Yeah, we can plug it.

[00:35:46] Yeah, let's go.

[00:35:47] There you go.

[00:35:47] And we also got a goodie package from PBR.

[00:35:50] Oh.

[00:35:51] And that's, we're going to be giving away free merch at the show too as well.

[00:35:54] Yeah, so come donate.

[00:35:55] We're taking canned food, monetary donations, and we're going to be slinging hats and t-shirts

[00:36:00] and a bunch of fucking shit post-punk.

[00:36:03] Pabst Blue Ribbon?

[00:36:04] Yep.

[00:36:05] It's diarrhea fluid.

[00:36:07] Diarrhea fuel.

[00:36:08] Dude, it all is.

[00:36:09] Depends how hard you squeeze.

[00:36:11] Oh, man.

[00:36:13] You're not squeezing lemons, Devin.

[00:36:15] I only used to drink Coors Light.

[00:36:17] That's all I used to drink.

[00:36:18] Like, I didn't really like liquor or anything, like actual booze.

[00:36:21] I just drank beer.

[00:36:23] I drank Coors Light because it was super light, and everyone used to make fun of me because

[00:36:27] they'd call it like cricket.

[00:36:28] But you're drinking cricket piss.

[00:36:29] Why don't you get a real beer?

[00:36:30] But I could drink like fucking 50 of them.

[00:36:32] Like, I'd go to Quebec and get like the big 60 fucking four pack.

[00:36:36] The octagon.

[00:36:37] Only one's coming out.

[00:36:38] Yeah.

[00:36:39] Polish that shit off in 48 hours.

[00:36:42] Anyway, what's the deal with Shania Twain?

[00:36:46] All right.

[00:36:47] So it all started back when I first met Devin.

[00:36:50] He was living back in Hittenberg.

[00:36:52] And it all started off with him because I wanted to start.

[00:36:55] I wanted to make a punk jacket.

[00:36:57] And I was like, cool.

[00:36:58] And then Devin came downstairs with a bunch of shirts.

[00:36:59] And I found a Shania Twain.

[00:37:01] Then I started making a Shania Twain vest out of just random things.

[00:37:06] And it progressed from there.

[00:37:07] And then after that, we came in band.

[00:37:08] And me and Devin finally got to go see Shania Twain.

[00:37:12] But we got so excited.

[00:37:13] And we started drinking so early during the day.

[00:37:16] By the time I got there, I was absolutely destroyed.

[00:37:20] And then my girlfriend, which I'm still very sorry for.

[00:37:27] You heard it here.

[00:37:28] I made her miss Shania Twain because I was so blackout.

[00:37:32] I couldn't even see the person in front of me, let alone her on stage.

[00:37:35] And it was her first time at Blues Fest.

[00:37:37] And I made my girlfriend miss it.

[00:37:39] And to this day, she just doesn't let me down on it.

[00:37:42] Nor should she.

[00:37:43] No.

[00:37:44] No.

[00:37:45] So I still have to buy a ticket to go see Shania Twain one day so I can take her and not myself.

[00:37:51] So henceforth, then on, Shania Twain had to be kind of wrapped around everything you did?

[00:37:56] Yeah.

[00:37:56] So then we became another.

[00:37:58] So then after that, I made another punk vest, version two of Shania Twain.

[00:38:01] We called it Twain Wreck.

[00:38:02] And we brought it to the Blues Fest.

[00:38:05] And me and Devin were in Daisy Duke shorts and cowboy boots.

[00:38:10] And we just took a little too far.

[00:38:12] And all of a sudden, after that experience, it became a song to show how much I fucked up that day.

[00:38:19] So it's like a ongoing memory.

[00:38:20] Twain Wreck.

[00:38:21] Amazing.

[00:38:22] See?

[00:38:22] It's all full circle.

[00:38:23] I get it now.

[00:38:24] I get it.

[00:38:25] Did the jacket predict the events of the concert?

[00:38:28] I don't even know.

[00:38:29] But on the way home, I don't know how I get home.

[00:38:32] When I'm sober, I can't even direct myself anywhere.

[00:38:36] But when I'm that drunk, I got us home.

[00:38:39] But then I ended up stopping in the middle of a parking lot because I was lost.

[00:38:42] But I got us home.

[00:38:43] But I was only a block away from home.

[00:38:45] And I remember stopping down in the middle.

[00:38:46] And Mel's looking at me.

[00:38:48] She's like, yo, dude, you got to keep moving.

[00:38:50] We're almost home.

[00:38:51] And I'm like, no.

[00:38:51] I don't even know where we are.

[00:38:53] Shania Twain.

[00:38:55] Getting all cranky about it too, eh?

[00:38:56] And then after that, she's just like, just eat your sandwich.

[00:38:58] I'm walking you home now.

[00:38:59] I was like, okay.

[00:39:00] I was like, oh, no.

[00:39:04] So it seems that you've apologized to Mel.

[00:39:07] Yeah.

[00:39:08] Several times.

[00:39:09] Oh, yeah.

[00:39:10] Would you like to make an on-air public apology to Shania Twain?

[00:39:14] Hell no.

[00:39:15] Honestly, we don't apologize to anyone that makes over six figures.

[00:39:19] That's a principal thing.

[00:39:20] That's fair.

[00:39:21] Six figures?

[00:39:22] God, she's got to make more than that, no?

[00:39:24] Yeah, she lives in Switzerland in a private mansion.

[00:39:27] Fuck her then.

[00:39:28] Yeah.

[00:39:29] Yeah.

[00:39:29] But we love you.

[00:39:29] Shania, isn't she from Timmins?

[00:39:32] Something like that.

[00:39:33] Yep.

[00:39:34] She doesn't want anyone to know that though.

[00:39:35] No, no.

[00:39:36] It's probably conspiracy theory now.

[00:39:38] I don't want to get into it.

[00:39:39] It's like anyone from Cornwall.

[00:39:40] They're like, yeah, I'm just from Ontario.

[00:39:42] Right.

[00:39:44] I'm kind of from Ottawa.

[00:39:48] I too have a Shania Twain tidbit from that Blues Fest show.

[00:39:54] Oh, let's go.

[00:39:54] My girlfriend said, hey, Shania Twain's playing.

[00:39:58] Do you want to go?

[00:40:00] I said, no.

[00:40:03] End of story.

[00:40:04] That's what I should have said.

[00:40:06] Yeah, right.

[00:40:07] Probably wouldn't be in this mess right now.

[00:40:11] It's on the wall with the strings and the pictures.

[00:40:13] It's just the Shania Twain bit.

[00:40:15] Yeah, just me eating a sandwich in the parking lot afterwards.

[00:40:18] Just crying.

[00:40:20] Fuck you, Twain.

[00:40:21] This is all your fault.

[00:40:23] Do you have any thank yous or shout outs that you want to do out in that crazy, crazy community

[00:40:28] that we call Ottawa?

[00:40:29] Oh my God.

[00:40:30] We have so many shout outs.

[00:40:32] Definitely want to shout out to Passenger Princess.

[00:40:34] They got us on our first show at the Dom.

[00:40:37] So huge shout out to them.

[00:40:38] And they've been huge friends to us ever since.

[00:40:40] So definitely have a good relationship.

[00:40:42] I just sent them a message today.

[00:40:44] I saw this documentary on YouTube.

[00:40:46] It was called Dude, Where's My Bus?

[00:40:48] And it was all about the fucking debauchery that is OC Transpo.

[00:40:52] And I thought it was apropos for that.

[00:40:54] So I sent it to Passenger Princess.

[00:40:56] Oh, it's pretty weird.

[00:40:57] OC Principal sucks.

[00:40:58] Yeah.

[00:40:59] But then I found another documentary.

[00:41:03] And it was like how Tim Hortons ruined its brand.

[00:41:05] And I sent that to him too.

[00:41:06] And I said, Tim Hortons sucks.

[00:41:08] Just spitballing.

[00:41:09] Spitballing.

[00:41:10] You ghostwriter.

[00:41:11] I'll take my payment under the door anytime.

[00:41:14] Sorry, I interrupted the thank yous.

[00:41:16] Other big shout outs.

[00:41:18] We'll go Jam Spot Recordings for putting all of our stuff together.

[00:41:22] That's a good one.

[00:41:23] We'll go Zane Bean, the missing member here, who is an absolute gem.

[00:41:27] And speaking of gems, Rich Chris, the Dominion Tavern, Chord Productions, Spectrosonic.

[00:41:34] Pretty much, yeah.

[00:41:35] Just everybody, I guess.

[00:41:36] Yeah, there's so many cool people.

[00:41:37] And if we missed your name, because we only said like six things, we see you.

[00:41:42] And we'll see you on Friday.

[00:41:43] Yeah.

[00:41:44] I find that what works is you know who you are.

[00:41:48] Oh, absolutely.

[00:41:49] There it is.

[00:41:49] Absolutely.

[00:41:50] So I have a question game for you guys.

[00:41:53] It's called 13 Questions with the Band.

[00:41:55] Would you like to play that?

[00:41:57] As long as there's no math questions, we're good.

[00:41:59] Would you like to know more?

[00:42:00] Actually, this is...

[00:42:01] Oh, shit, man.

[00:42:01] I was going to do the math edition.

[00:42:04] It's all math.

[00:42:05] All right, let's do it.

[00:42:07] Time for 13 Questions with the Band.

[00:42:09] Yes, this segment's back again.

[00:42:11] It's called 13 Questions, but I only asked six.

[00:42:14] Maybe five.

[00:42:15] All right, we're back.

[00:42:16] This is 13 Questions with Ali Beers.

[00:42:20] Okay.

[00:42:21] First question.

[00:42:22] What was the first physical music that you bought, whether it be a CD or a record or...

[00:42:27] It was the Ali Beers EP.

[00:42:29] That was the first one you've ever bought?

[00:42:31] Yeah, yeah.

[00:42:31] You bought your own?

[00:42:32] It's not even out yet.

[00:42:33] You bought your own...

[00:42:35] Wow.

[00:42:37] Yeah, he went to band camp and just bought every single one.

[00:42:40] No, physical, not digital.

[00:42:41] Yeah, I printed out the receipt.

[00:42:43] Oh, okay.

[00:42:45] I burned it onto a CD.

[00:42:47] Oh, imagine?

[00:42:49] Which one would you buy?

[00:42:50] For me, it was System of a Down Toxicity.

[00:42:53] Good choice, brother.

[00:42:54] Yeah.

[00:42:55] Very good.

[00:42:56] What was the one that came out without a cover?

[00:42:58] Remember that?

[00:42:58] It looked like a demo.

[00:43:01] Yeah, that was cool.

[00:43:03] I wonder if anybody actually stole that album.

[00:43:04] Oh, I'm sure.

[00:43:05] They're probably like, I challenge accepted.

[00:43:07] Yeah.

[00:43:08] Like, I'm taking this album.

[00:43:10] The gentle push they needed.

[00:43:12] Do you remember Discord Records?

[00:43:14] You know, Fagazi, where they actually had on their...

[00:43:17] They tried to do this the best.

[00:43:19] They said, don't pay more than $5 for this CD or whatever it was.

[00:43:23] They actually printed it on their thing.

[00:43:25] That's amazing.

[00:43:25] But then, like, the distributors and people and shit like that would just rack it up to

[00:43:29] whatever a CD was worth.

[00:43:30] And it's fucking cool.

[00:43:32] It was a good effort.

[00:43:33] Right.

[00:43:34] It's just short of saying, steal this.

[00:43:36] Yeah.

[00:43:37] Do not pay for more than $5 for this piece of music.

[00:43:40] So, anyway.

[00:43:42] What was the very first live concert you ever saw?

[00:43:45] I saw Goldfinger back whenever they had...

[00:43:49] What was that one snowboard festival they had here in the summertime a while back?

[00:43:53] Snow...

[00:43:53] Snow Jam or something like that?

[00:43:54] Snow Jam, yeah.

[00:43:54] Yeah, I saw Goldfinger there.

[00:43:55] My mom took me there.

[00:43:58] I remember sitting in the stands and just watching Goldfinger for the first time ever.

[00:44:03] Oh, was it?

[00:44:03] It was pretty cool.

[00:44:04] It was really cool.

[00:44:04] Yeah.

[00:44:06] Nothing like a brass section to make you go crazy.

[00:44:08] Yeah, yeah.

[00:44:09] A horde section.

[00:44:10] Yeah.

[00:44:11] Cue the horns.

[00:44:12] Let's go.

[00:44:13] Yeah.

[00:44:13] Ska 2025.

[00:44:16] Yeah, one of our friends plays in a Ska band too, so it's coming back.

[00:44:20] You ever heard of Dive Tones?

[00:44:21] Yeah, Rich's band.

[00:44:23] Yeah, yeah.

[00:44:23] Yeah, yeah.

[00:44:24] My friend Jesse...

[00:44:25] Do you know the band The Fly Downs?

[00:44:27] Yes.

[00:44:28] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:44:29] My friend Jesse Brewer just sent me a message.

[00:44:31] He said, oh yeah, I just started a Ska band with some friends.

[00:44:33] I haven't answered them yet.

[00:44:35] I don't know if I want to.

[00:44:37] Ska band is calling.

[00:44:38] Do you accept?

[00:44:40] Anyway, first concert.

[00:44:46] First concert.

[00:44:48] Honestly, I don't remember.

[00:44:50] Yeah, of course.

[00:44:52] I've seen some interesting shows.

[00:44:54] I don't remember my first one, but one of the coolest shows I've ever seen was Gojira.

[00:44:57] It was awesome at Heavy MTL.

[00:45:00] I saw Limp Bizkit that year too.

[00:45:02] Very cool.

[00:45:04] When I had Fifth on the show, I think it was Vinny who just went off about Limp Bizkit.

[00:45:10] He was like the fucking...

[00:45:12] We are the biggest Limp Bizkit fans in the world.

[00:45:14] What did he say?

[00:45:15] I think he said that.

[00:45:15] Yeah, I think we still are.

[00:45:18] I don't know anymore.

[00:45:20] Because you guys are phony.

[00:45:24] Who the hell's fifth?

[00:45:26] True.

[00:45:27] I think I told this story, but one year at Halloween, I went as Wes Borland.

[00:45:30] All done up in the shit.

[00:45:32] Done up in the shit, my guy.

[00:45:34] Yeah, and I got in a...

[00:45:36] I was dressed up as Wes Borland, and I was at a house Halloween party, and this guy was

[00:45:42] kind of hitting on...

[00:45:43] He probably wasn't.

[00:45:44] He was just talking to my girlfriend when I was all drunk, and I ended up running down

[00:45:48] the hallway and pushing him out the door.

[00:45:49] He's like, holy shit, that's Wes Borland.

[00:45:51] Yeah, and I was like, we almost got in a fight.

[00:45:53] We got broken up, but I can imagine him looking...

[00:45:55] He was dressed in some shitty plastic gladiator stuff.

[00:45:58] No makeup.

[00:45:59] I was done up.

[00:46:01] Big, long black cloak and shit.

[00:46:03] And I was fucking freaking out.

[00:46:04] We ended up becoming really good friends from that incident.

[00:46:06] His name's Todd.

[00:46:07] Hey, Todd.

[00:46:10] Yeah, Wes Borland, man.

[00:46:11] Fucking made me go crazy.

[00:46:14] Whenever you channel your inner.

[00:46:16] Inner Wes Borland.

[00:46:17] Yeah, I fucking...

[00:46:19] I wanted to break stuff.

[00:46:20] Stay away from that new metal.

[00:46:25] What was the last show you went to?

[00:46:27] I actually paid a ticket to go and see.

[00:46:30] Oh my Jesus.

[00:46:31] Oh God.

[00:46:32] We work and just go to so many.

[00:46:33] Yeah, we go to so many all the time.

[00:46:35] It's hard to keep track nowadays.

[00:46:36] Oh shit.

[00:46:37] You can cut out us going, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm.

[00:46:39] What was the last fucking show we went to?

[00:46:42] Wasn't it?

[00:46:47] Right?

[00:46:48] No, I went to...

[00:46:51] Oh my God.

[00:46:52] It was Backseat Dragons EP release, I think, at Club Saw.

[00:47:00] It was Zane.

[00:47:01] And then I saw...

[00:47:02] And then I jumped over to Double Experience because our buddy Seb was playing drums for

[00:47:06] that band.

[00:47:07] Yeah.

[00:47:07] Shout out Seb.

[00:47:08] Crazy, crazy drummer.

[00:47:09] Awesome dude.

[00:47:10] Yeah, he's a wicked dude.

[00:47:11] So humble too.

[00:47:12] What about Not Local?

[00:47:14] Like where you actually went to like the hockey stadium.

[00:47:17] I just went and saw Under Oath at History in Toronto.

[00:47:19] Oh, cool.

[00:47:20] It was awesome.

[00:47:21] I went to go see Fiddler in Toronto.

[00:47:23] That was a really good show.

[00:47:25] Nice.

[00:47:25] Actually, the last local one I went to, I just remembered, was Hunt Club with Sammy Hayes

[00:47:30] and another artist that I can't remember.

[00:47:33] But he was really awesome.

[00:47:34] Check out that poster.

[00:47:35] It was cool.

[00:47:36] But Hunt Club's a really awesome band.

[00:47:41] I was in contact with them.

[00:47:42] They were going to come on about a month or so ago.

[00:47:45] And then I did a little bit of research about a week before and they don't have any music

[00:47:49] out yet.

[00:47:50] Well, they didn't at that time.

[00:47:51] Oh, true.

[00:47:52] I guess it's...

[00:47:52] And I sent a message and I was like, do you guys not have any music?

[00:47:54] And they're like, no, man.

[00:47:56] I was like, can we postpone until the new year when you have something to actually promote?

[00:48:01] He's like, yeah, probably a good idea.

[00:48:02] Yeah.

[00:48:03] But yeah, they were all fucking on my calendar and everything.

[00:48:05] Yeah.

[00:48:06] That band's awesome too.

[00:48:07] There's a lot of gems playing in that band.

[00:48:10] Next question.

[00:48:12] If Allie Beers could open up for any band, who'd it be?

[00:48:16] Limp Bizkit.

[00:48:17] No.

[00:48:18] Cosmic Psychos are the chats for sure.

[00:48:20] Okay.

[00:48:20] Cosmic Psychos.

[00:48:21] Absolute legends.

[00:48:22] Yeah.

[00:48:23] Definitely Cosmic Psychos.

[00:48:25] I love that band so much.

[00:48:26] They're a three piece from Australia.

[00:48:28] And like the lore is that they were a band a long time ago.

[00:48:31] What are they called?

[00:48:32] Cosmic Psychos.

[00:48:33] Oh, I already wrote those two guys down.

[00:48:34] Yeah.

[00:48:34] It's a cool name.

[00:48:35] It's a cool band name.

[00:48:35] And so they had a resurgence and now they just look like a bunch of dads, but still playing

[00:48:38] the punk rock they used to, plus more.

[00:48:40] Cool.

[00:48:40] And it's...

[00:48:41] Yeah, they're awesome.

[00:48:42] We just walk around singing all their music.

[00:48:44] Cosmic Psychos.

[00:48:45] Hey, there's the next question.

[00:48:47] Is there a song, any random song that just say it came on the radio that you could sing

[00:48:53] from start to finish and not get any words wrong?

[00:48:56] Tequila.

[00:48:57] Oh.

[00:49:01] You know what?

[00:49:01] Hey, Devin, there's a door.

[00:49:02] Get out.

[00:49:03] Just get out, Dev.

[00:49:03] You know what?

[00:49:04] I'm going to retire that fucking question now because it can't be beat.

[00:49:07] That's it.

[00:49:08] I'm going to scratch it off my list.

[00:49:09] Sorry.

[00:49:10] I'm sorry.

[00:49:10] You finished that question.

[00:49:12] No, it's not.

[00:49:12] Devin, you just had to ruin it.

[00:49:13] That's good.

[00:49:15] Tequila.

[00:49:17] You get to the end of the song.

[00:49:18] You're like, vodka.

[00:49:19] You're like, oh, shit.

[00:49:19] I fucked it up.

[00:49:20] Imagine you screwed up tequila.

[00:49:22] At karaoke night.

[00:49:24] Terranchila.

[00:49:24] Oops.

[00:49:25] Oh, yeah.

[00:49:25] At karaoke night.

[00:49:27] Yeah.

[00:49:28] Then you do a Peter Griffin like, ugh.

[00:49:31] That is some...

[00:49:33] The security ends up kicking you out.

[00:49:34] Yeah.

[00:49:34] I'd kick someone out for saying tequila wrong.

[00:49:36] That's fucking brutal, man.

[00:49:38] For three beer drinking, stinking, jamming lads, that's some sharp wit.

[00:49:43] Let's go.

[00:49:43] Thank you.

[00:49:44] We're witty.

[00:49:45] If you look at our bio on Spotify, it's actually a haiku.

[00:49:50] Gesundheit.

[00:49:53] No?

[00:49:55] Is that Seinfeld?

[00:49:58] No, I think that's Jim Cornette.

[00:50:00] Oh.

[00:50:01] That's a pro wrestling podcast.

[00:50:03] Ah.

[00:50:05] Sorry.

[00:50:06] Damn.

[00:50:06] But I'm Asian.

[00:50:07] I'm half Japanese.

[00:50:08] So I should show some more respect to the haiku.

[00:50:12] When you get a chance, yeah, check our bio.

[00:50:14] It's a good one.

[00:50:15] Okay.

[00:50:16] Okay.

[00:50:19] Anyway, back to the game.

[00:50:22] Individual, what will your tombstone say?

[00:50:24] Or what will you want your tombstone to say?

[00:50:27] Your epitaph, if you will.

[00:50:29] Forever mustard on my face and pants.

[00:50:32] All of that?

[00:50:33] Yeah.

[00:50:34] Yeah.

[00:50:34] You almost blew my mind with the first one.

[00:50:36] Forever in mustard.

[00:50:38] Is that what you first said?

[00:50:39] Forever mustard on my face and pants.

[00:50:41] Drop the face and pants.

[00:50:43] That fucking first line is brilliant.

[00:50:45] Be like, who is this guy?

[00:50:47] Forever in mustard.

[00:50:48] Mine's going to say, steal this tombstone.

[00:50:51] P here.

[00:50:54] An arrow with a dance there.

[00:50:56] Dance here.

[00:50:57] No, if anyone stole my tombstone, that'd be sick.

[00:51:00] Cool.

[00:51:01] Have you ever asked...

[00:51:02] This is some of a downed tombstone.

[00:51:04] Oh my God.

[00:51:04] Have you ever asked anyone for an autograph?

[00:51:08] And who was it?

[00:51:14] I asked the drummer for teen mortgage for their autograph.

[00:51:19] Because my girlfriend wanted her record signed.

[00:51:22] Ended up walking up to him.

[00:51:23] I was like, hey, can I have your autograph?

[00:51:24] And he's like, yep.

[00:51:26] And it was just like a really awkward moment.

[00:51:29] I don't know why.

[00:51:30] You got to ambush him.

[00:51:31] I wonder how...

[00:51:34] Everything's a signing.

[00:51:35] You got to go...

[00:51:36] I guess you get autographs.

[00:51:37] Anyway, you?

[00:51:38] Devin?

[00:51:38] I have no idea.

[00:51:39] I have no interest in autograph stuff.

[00:51:41] Has anyone ever asked you for an autograph?

[00:51:44] No.

[00:51:45] Yeah.

[00:51:46] But we'll get...

[00:51:47] Colton won't get there, brother.

[00:51:48] I'm going to ask you later.

[00:51:49] We'll get that ticked off.

[00:51:51] 10 bucks.

[00:51:52] Fuck, man.

[00:51:53] Is that the friend price too?

[00:51:55] 15.

[00:51:55] Ah!

[00:51:57] Would you like this 8x10 of myself?

[00:52:00] I'm completely unprepared.

[00:52:02] Pulls one out of the vest.

[00:52:03] Yeah, that's right.

[00:52:04] She's a gold Sharpie.

[00:52:06] Okay.

[00:52:07] A couple more questions.

[00:52:09] If you could live in another musician's...

[00:52:12] If you could live another musician's life for 24 hours,

[00:52:16] who would it be?

[00:52:20] That's a good question.

[00:52:23] P. Diddy?

[00:52:25] No.

[00:52:26] Zero.

[00:52:26] There's not enough baby oil for that.

[00:52:30] There's no more left in the world.

[00:52:32] Um...

[00:52:34] It would have to be...

[00:52:38] I guess like the Cosmic Psychos.

[00:52:39] Like, those guys just look like they have everything figured out in life.

[00:52:42] They don't give a fuck about anything.

[00:52:44] Cool.

[00:52:44] I'd be Rob Halford.

[00:52:46] I want the super long leather jacket.

[00:52:49] Then the not give a fuck.

[00:52:50] And just be able to sing like that high for one day of my life,

[00:52:53] I think it would be dope.

[00:52:54] Cool.

[00:52:56] Yeah, that'd be a fun 24 hours.

[00:52:58] That'd be a fun day.

[00:53:00] Two more questions?

[00:53:01] Or...

[00:53:02] Okay, yeah.

[00:53:03] If you could have a drink or a meal with anybody, dead or alive,

[00:53:08] who would it be?

[00:53:17] I don't know.

[00:53:18] I'm kind of...

[00:53:20] I'm stuck on that question.

[00:53:21] Luigi Mangione.

[00:53:23] Luigi Mangione.

[00:53:25] He had it coming, man!

[00:53:29] A meal or drink with anybody.

[00:53:32] You know what?

[00:53:32] Fuck it.

[00:53:33] Bobby Flay, the chef.

[00:53:34] Fuck it.

[00:53:34] Let's go, dude.

[00:53:35] There you go.

[00:53:36] Or Guy Fieri.

[00:53:38] Guy Fieri.

[00:53:39] Just go to a dirty dive and just have some food.

[00:53:40] So you don't care about actually hanging out with those guys.

[00:53:42] You just want to eat their food.

[00:53:43] Yeah, exactly.

[00:53:44] Oh, I appreciate that.

[00:53:45] I appreciate that.

[00:53:46] The way you looked at that question.

[00:53:48] I just want to go...

[00:53:49] Guy Fieri.

[00:53:50] Guy Fieri, man.

[00:53:51] That'd be the guy I'd choose.

[00:53:52] Yeah.

[00:53:53] Alley beers.

[00:53:53] The day the rapid question game died.

[00:53:59] Oh, no.

[00:54:01] We're sorry for everybody else that comes on this show.

[00:54:04] You guys are fucked.

[00:54:05] Okay.

[00:54:05] Last question is for the both of you.

[00:54:08] Who is Alley Beers?

[00:54:16] Just three beers in a beer can, I guess.

[00:54:18] I don't know.

[00:54:19] Yeah.

[00:54:19] Three beers in a beer can.

[00:54:20] Yeah.

[00:54:21] I don't know.

[00:54:21] We're all in the same piss can together.

[00:54:24] All right.

[00:54:26] Can't beat that one.

[00:54:27] Thank you.

[00:54:28] Thank you so much for coming on the podcast.

[00:54:31] It was a fun conversation.

[00:54:32] I wish you nothing but the best in the future.

[00:54:35] I know you have the world takeover in like 120 something years.

[00:54:40] It's going to happen.

[00:54:40] So until then, I hope you don't die.

[00:54:45] Yeah.

[00:54:46] Hey, you too.

[00:54:46] 120 years.

[00:54:47] I hope you don't die.

[00:54:48] I will see you there.

[00:54:49] We're just a bunch of cockroaches.

[00:54:50] You can't kill us, man.

[00:54:51] That's right.

[00:54:52] I'm not like hologram Alley Beers is going to be crazy.

[00:54:55] No.

[00:54:57] Fuck the gorillas.

[00:54:58] They have nothing on us.

[00:54:59] The only thing you don't get in the hologram is the smell.

[00:55:03] They're going to have to add it.

[00:55:03] Oh, that's coming.

[00:55:04] They're going to have 4D, 6D by then.

[00:55:06] You're going to see everything and smell everything.

[00:55:08] Oh, God.

[00:55:09] Put it back in the computer.

[00:55:11] How do I stop this program?

[00:55:14] Anyway.

[00:55:15] Yeah.

[00:55:15] Steal my tombstone.

[00:55:17] Have a good night.

[00:55:18] Thanks, guys.

[00:55:20] Thanks, Mike.

[00:55:21] Ah, who's shit?

[00:55:23] They're pants.

[00:57:32] That is the end of Ego and Vice episode 149, the second last episode of season 8.

[00:57:39] Thank you to Devin and Colton for coming in.

[00:57:43] Great conversation.

[00:57:44] I had a lot of fun.

[00:57:46] Good dudes.

[00:57:47] Check out Alley Beers when you get a chance.

[00:57:50] Where are they playing?

[00:57:51] I don't know.

[00:57:52] Check out ottawagigs.ca.

[00:57:53] Maybe you'll find out.

[00:57:56] If you want to get a hold of me, you can always reach me at eagleandvice at gmail.com.

[00:58:01] If you want to listen to the podcast, go to eagleandvicepodcast.com.

[00:58:08] There's links to everywhere there.

[00:58:10] Or you can just search Eagle and Vice Podcast.

[00:58:12] I am the only one.

[00:58:14] Thank you so much for tuning in.

[00:58:18] Next episode is 150.

[00:58:20] That is the season 8 season premiere.

[00:58:23] Wait.

[00:58:23] Season finale.

[00:58:25] Woo!

[00:58:26] My life just flashed before my eyes.

[00:58:29] Season.

[00:58:30] Finale.

[00:58:32] A final.

[00:58:34] For now.

[00:58:35] Bye-bye.

[00:58:36] You've got a real attitude problem, McFly.

[00:58:38] You're a slacker.

[00:58:39] You're a slacker.