Sugar Bomb! is not a punk band from Ottawa, Ontario, known for their energetic performances and unique sound. The group describes themselves as a collective of four friends from Ottawa and Gatineau who enjoy exploring unconventional and "weird" musical themes. Their music falls within the punk and pop-punk genres, often performed at popular local venues like Cafe Dekcuf.
They have a growing presence in the Ottawa music scene. You can check out their recordings, such as their "Basement Recordings," on platforms like Bandcamp.
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[00:00:47] You've got a real attitude problem, McFly. You're a slacker.
[00:00:49] Hey, how's it going? This is Mike. This is Ego and Vice. Welcome to Episode 148. So close. So close. To my break. So close to getting onto the mountain. I got my snowboard all ready to go. It's all shined up. It's all sharpened up. I went deep into the far bowels of my side closets and pulled out all my my gear. I try to forget about snowboarding during the summertime and I had a wonderful summer. I did.
[00:02:24] Thank you to all those who enjoyed summer with me, who were there for my beautiful sunny bike rides in my summer days. But I have to leave you now. There is a calling. A calling from the mountains. I feel it call. I hear it call. I must answer.
[00:02:44] And venture forth. High. Into the elevation of the snowcaps. Well, the snowy summits. Never to be seen again. Well, maybe March and February, I think.
[00:03:02] Yes, I'm so close to going snowboarding and I'm very, very, very excited. As you can tell, it is my thing.
[00:03:09] As far as Ego and Vice goes, it is trudging along.
[00:03:12] As always, I have, I think, three more episodes.
[00:03:17] And then I'm going to take my usual winter break.
[00:03:22] Going to enjoy the holiday season.
[00:03:24] And then I'm going to take my winter break and I will come back with season nine.
[00:03:30] But until that happens,
[00:03:33] let's end season eight with a bang.
[00:03:36] Few more episodes.
[00:03:37] But today, on Ego and Vice,
[00:03:39] I have Allie, Katie, and Steph.
[00:03:44] From a local band, not punk band,
[00:03:47] called Sugarbomb.
[00:03:49] Super, super cool conversation.
[00:03:52] Really, really cool people.
[00:03:53] And they came down to Southwood Studio.
[00:03:56] We sat around, had some laughs,
[00:03:58] and talked all things Sugarbomb.
[00:04:01] Let's get right to it.
[00:04:03] This is kind of a fun song.
[00:04:06] I like quirky stuff.
[00:04:08] So this song was perfect for me.
[00:04:10] And this was one of the first Sugarbomb songs I heard.
[00:04:12] So what a better way to start the podcast.
[00:04:15] After this tune, which is called
[00:04:17] Raccoons in the Attic,
[00:04:18] we're going to come back
[00:04:21] with our conversation
[00:04:23] with Sugarbomb.
[00:04:24] Ego and Vice.
[00:04:44] Hey, we're back.
[00:06:41] This is Ego and Vice.
[00:06:42] This is episode 148.
[00:06:44] As promised in the intro,
[00:06:46] sitting in Southwood Studio,
[00:06:47] I have three members of the local band.
[00:06:50] Sugarbomb, I have Steph,
[00:06:51] I have Katie,
[00:06:52] and I have Allie.
[00:06:53] What is happening?
[00:06:53] Hey, how's it going?
[00:06:56] The snow is falling.
[00:06:57] I think the snow is falling.
[00:06:59] It was falling yesterday.
[00:07:00] It's getting closer to the winter.
[00:07:02] How do you feel about
[00:07:03] change of season
[00:07:04] going from summer to winter?
[00:07:06] Are you winter people?
[00:07:06] Are you summer people?
[00:07:07] I love winter stuff,
[00:07:09] like skiing, snowboarding,
[00:07:10] things like that.
[00:07:10] So I do love the winter activities.
[00:07:12] I don't like the commute.
[00:07:14] But I do like the change.
[00:07:15] It's nice.
[00:07:16] I'm a beach babe.
[00:07:18] Yeah.
[00:07:19] The sun lover.
[00:07:20] The sun lover.
[00:07:21] I need it.
[00:07:22] I want the heat.
[00:07:23] I want the sun.
[00:07:24] All day, every day.
[00:07:26] That's fair.
[00:07:26] That's fair.
[00:07:27] I am excited for wood fires
[00:07:29] and reading books and tea.
[00:07:31] Oh, yeah.
[00:07:32] Those are great.
[00:07:33] Yeah.
[00:07:33] Sweet.
[00:07:33] Hot chocolate s'mores.
[00:07:35] I'm a winter person.
[00:07:36] I was born in Thunder Bay.
[00:07:37] So I was born in like an Arctic tundra,
[00:07:41] more or less,
[00:07:41] northwestern Ontario.
[00:07:42] So whenever winter comes around,
[00:07:44] I love hoodies.
[00:07:45] I love food you can eat out of a bowl.
[00:07:48] Yeah.
[00:07:48] And I love snowboarding.
[00:07:50] Snowboarding is,
[00:07:51] I take a break from all the stuff I do
[00:07:53] in the winter,
[00:07:54] and I go snowboarding.
[00:07:55] That's what I do.
[00:07:55] I bought a season pass for Edelweiss.
[00:07:58] Nice.
[00:07:58] I'm just waiting for there to be more snow.
[00:08:00] That's where I go, too.
[00:08:01] I go skiing.
[00:08:02] Yeah.
[00:08:02] Right on.
[00:08:02] I've been skiing since like 1999
[00:08:03] until two years ago,
[00:08:04] and then I was like,
[00:08:05] let's start it again.
[00:08:06] That's totally the same thing, too.
[00:08:07] I moved here from Thunder Bay,
[00:08:09] and I used to snowboard in Thunder Bay
[00:08:11] because that's all you did
[00:08:12] was outside stuff.
[00:08:12] But when I moved to the big city,
[00:08:14] it was just like,
[00:08:15] well, I don't need to go snowboarding,
[00:08:16] and I did city stuff, I guess.
[00:08:17] Oh, yeah.
[00:08:18] And then I started snowboarding
[00:08:19] about three years ago,
[00:08:20] but it was a big,
[00:08:21] it was like 15 years in between
[00:08:22] or something,
[00:08:23] and now it's like,
[00:08:24] all the time I've lost.
[00:08:26] So I'm trying to make up for it.
[00:08:28] I feel that.
[00:08:29] Anyway.
[00:08:30] So thank you so much for coming out.
[00:08:32] Before we get started,
[00:08:34] would you like to go around
[00:08:36] and just kind of introduce yourself?
[00:08:38] Who you are,
[00:08:39] what you do in the band,
[00:08:41] and I always ask a question
[00:08:44] for everybody.
[00:08:47] Who's your favorite local Ottawa band
[00:08:49] right now?
[00:08:50] Go.
[00:08:51] That's crazy.
[00:08:53] You can't ask that.
[00:08:55] You can't.
[00:08:55] Put you on the spot.
[00:08:58] Favorite Ottawa local band
[00:09:01] is Sugarbomb, obviously.
[00:09:03] See, that's probably the right answer.
[00:09:04] That's probably the right answer.
[00:09:06] And who are you,
[00:09:06] and what do you do?
[00:09:07] My name's Katie.
[00:09:08] I play guitar, sing.
[00:09:11] Yeah.
[00:09:12] Cool.
[00:09:13] I'm Allie.
[00:09:14] I am the bass player of Sugarbomb,
[00:09:16] and right now my favorite local band
[00:09:20] is actually Fit.
[00:09:21] I think those guys,
[00:09:23] they really started out
[00:09:24] like actually around the same time as us,
[00:09:26] and they just blew up.
[00:09:28] So shout out to them.
[00:09:29] They're killing it.
[00:09:30] Yeah.
[00:09:31] Cool.
[00:09:32] I'm Steph, also vocals and guitar.
[00:09:35] Right now,
[00:09:36] it's like it's hard to choose favorite,
[00:09:38] but maybe this week
[00:09:39] because we just had our EP release party
[00:09:41] with them, Salmonella.
[00:09:43] Oh.
[00:09:43] Oh, yeah.
[00:09:44] They're a super talented,
[00:09:46] great, great, great band.
[00:09:47] See, this is one of those
[00:09:48] go around the room awkward things
[00:09:50] like at a board meeting
[00:09:51] where they like throw the ball at you.
[00:09:53] So what's your name?
[00:09:53] What do you do?
[00:09:54] What do you like to do?
[00:09:55] What's your favorite serial?
[00:09:56] What's your hidden talent?
[00:09:57] Yeah, it's the icebreaker round.
[00:09:59] So now that's over with.
[00:10:00] That's great.
[00:10:00] My favorite band has always been Stobie.
[00:10:03] It will always be Stobie.
[00:10:04] And tomorrow,
[00:10:05] it will probably be Stobie still.
[00:10:08] Stobie still.
[00:10:09] I don't know why.
[00:10:10] I don't know why.
[00:10:10] I just really, really love that band.
[00:10:12] Consistent, you know?
[00:10:12] It's not bad.
[00:10:13] That's a good thing.
[00:10:14] And that's not to take away
[00:10:15] from any other bands.
[00:10:16] Yeah.
[00:10:16] You know, it's just
[00:10:17] sometimes you just lean one way.
[00:10:20] That's all.
[00:10:21] Well, there's so many other bands
[00:10:22] we could have said.
[00:10:23] Yeah, like both our partners,
[00:10:25] Katie and I's partners
[00:10:25] are in a band called Lazy Brats.
[00:10:27] So obviously we love them too.
[00:10:29] Yeah.
[00:10:30] Lazy Brats.
[00:10:30] They're really fun too.
[00:10:31] I try to have as many local bands
[00:10:34] because that's basically
[00:10:35] what this podcast is.
[00:10:36] It's basically just
[00:10:38] showcasing local talent.
[00:10:39] So I'll...
[00:10:41] Lazy Brats,
[00:10:42] I think I reached out to them
[00:10:43] and they never got back to me.
[00:10:44] Rude.
[00:10:45] Yeah, it is rude, right?
[00:10:46] Maybe they weren't ready.
[00:10:47] Go home and kick their butts.
[00:10:48] All right, guys.
[00:10:49] I'll try again.
[00:10:49] But I did an acoustic gig
[00:10:51] with Fifth at the womb.
[00:10:53] There you go.
[00:10:53] At the womb.
[00:10:54] Yes, the womb.
[00:10:54] I saw you.
[00:10:56] We played at the womb
[00:10:56] for the first show.
[00:10:57] I saw you play there.
[00:10:59] Okay.
[00:10:59] Oh, geez.
[00:11:00] Sorry about that.
[00:11:00] Yeah.
[00:11:01] Sarah, you know Sarah Gott then, right?
[00:11:03] Yeah.
[00:11:04] Yeah.
[00:11:04] Sarah's like an old friend of mine.
[00:11:05] She used to be in my band Goat.
[00:11:06] My old band Goat.
[00:11:07] She was a guitar player.
[00:11:08] It's all coming back to me now.
[00:11:09] We actually played at the womb
[00:11:11] the first day.
[00:11:12] We opened up the womb.
[00:11:13] Yeah, we opened up the womb.
[00:11:15] And I just recorded
[00:11:16] a wet four days
[00:11:16] for a movie that they did.
[00:11:19] Oh, cool.
[00:11:19] Yeah, they did like a backtrack
[00:11:20] for a movie.
[00:11:21] So they were in the studio
[00:11:22] and we recorded a song for them.
[00:11:24] Oh, that's awesome.
[00:11:25] That's super awesome.
[00:11:26] Yeah, Sarah's a really good friend.
[00:11:28] I've known her forever
[00:11:29] back from the Ra Ra Riot days.
[00:11:31] Oh, yeah.
[00:11:31] Yeah, so when I was at Goat
[00:11:34] was a three-piece
[00:11:35] and I went out and saw her
[00:11:36] at the cuff one time
[00:11:37] when she was in Ra Ra Riot
[00:11:38] and I was too scared to ask her
[00:11:39] like if she wanted to be in the band.
[00:11:41] I'm like, she'll never be in the band.
[00:11:42] And then it was like two years later
[00:11:44] or something like that
[00:11:45] I ran into her.
[00:11:46] I'm like, you want to be in Goat?
[00:11:47] She's like, okay.
[00:11:47] In a circle.
[00:11:48] In a circle.
[00:11:49] All you had to do was ask, right?
[00:11:50] It's great when someone...
[00:11:52] Yeah, the womb's closed now.
[00:11:54] Yeah, unfortunately.
[00:11:55] They just had their last show.
[00:11:57] Yeah, it's good.
[00:11:57] Well, you got to give her credit
[00:11:59] because Sarah is always...
[00:12:01] She always thinks that way.
[00:12:02] She makes it very...
[00:12:04] When she does something,
[00:12:05] she does something kind of big.
[00:12:06] It's always like for the community
[00:12:08] which I like.
[00:12:09] Absolutely.
[00:12:09] She always includes so many people
[00:12:11] too on bands.
[00:12:12] Yeah, it wasn't so much called like...
[00:12:15] What do you call it?
[00:12:16] A venue.
[00:12:17] She called it like a community center almost.
[00:12:18] Which is completely Sarah, right?
[00:12:21] And yeah, it's a shame.
[00:12:23] Did you know that her landlord
[00:12:24] didn't know that was happening?
[00:12:27] Really?
[00:12:28] Wow.
[00:12:28] Surprise!
[00:12:28] I'm not surprised.
[00:12:29] Yeah, I asked her one time.
[00:12:31] I was just like,
[00:12:32] you rent here, right?
[00:12:33] She's like, yeah.
[00:12:34] I'm like, does your landlord know?
[00:12:35] He's like...
[00:12:36] She's like, no.
[00:12:37] And I was like, okay.
[00:12:39] She's like, but I cleaned it up really good
[00:12:41] when I know he's in town.
[00:12:42] I'm like, wow.
[00:12:43] That's amazing.
[00:12:44] It's just the jam space.
[00:12:45] Yeah.
[00:12:46] Anyway, we're totally getting off track.
[00:12:48] Let's talk about Sugar Bomb.
[00:12:50] Sugar Bomb.
[00:12:50] I did some research.
[00:12:52] I try and do some research the best I can.
[00:12:54] And that's usually about 15 minutes
[00:12:56] before you get here,
[00:12:57] just going back through...
[00:12:58] Perfect.
[00:12:58] Real.
[00:12:59] Through whatever is online.
[00:13:00] And as far as I could go back to find
[00:13:02] was that your very first show
[00:13:04] was at Avant Garde March 11th of this year.
[00:13:08] Last year.
[00:13:09] Last year.
[00:13:10] 2023.
[00:13:11] Last year, yeah.
[00:13:11] Okay, I didn't specify that.
[00:13:13] I apologize.
[00:13:13] Because I joined February
[00:13:15] and our show was March.
[00:13:17] Yeah, yeah.
[00:13:18] 2023.
[00:13:18] For sure.
[00:13:19] And you just released a EP
[00:13:22] on November 25th of this year.
[00:13:24] Yes.
[00:13:24] Woo!
[00:13:25] Called Way Too Late.
[00:13:26] Oh, yeah.
[00:13:27] Amazing.
[00:13:27] Let's talk about the beginning.
[00:13:29] The beginning of Sugar Bomb.
[00:13:31] How did it begin?
[00:13:32] Who started it?
[00:13:33] Where did it come from?
[00:13:34] What's the deal?
[00:13:35] The origin story.
[00:13:38] Well, Steph and I
[00:13:40] started playing guitar
[00:13:42] and singing together.
[00:13:43] We did that for a while.
[00:13:46] Yeah, we did like...
[00:13:48] It was mostly...
[00:13:48] It was acoustic.
[00:13:49] We did some open mics
[00:13:50] at Live on Elgin.
[00:13:52] Yeah.
[00:13:52] And then...
[00:13:53] Yeah.
[00:13:54] We got to a point
[00:13:55] where we were like,
[00:13:57] we need more.
[00:13:58] We want more.
[00:13:59] Yeah.
[00:13:59] We want to rock.
[00:14:02] So, yeah.
[00:14:02] We reached out
[00:14:03] to a friend of Steph's
[00:14:05] named Kirk
[00:14:06] who sadly isn't here tonight.
[00:14:09] Ooh.
[00:14:09] Uh-huh.
[00:14:10] But, uh...
[00:14:11] We'll designate a segment
[00:14:13] for Kirk.
[00:14:14] Yes.
[00:14:15] Perfect.
[00:14:16] But he was down
[00:14:17] and we started jamming
[00:14:19] and then we needed
[00:14:21] a bass player.
[00:14:22] Yeah.
[00:14:22] I messaged Ali.
[00:14:24] I was like,
[00:14:24] Ali, you're cool
[00:14:26] and into music
[00:14:26] and you know lots of people.
[00:14:28] Do you know someone
[00:14:29] who would like
[00:14:30] want to play bass
[00:14:30] in our band?
[00:14:31] It was funny
[00:14:32] because we met
[00:14:33] at a karaoke
[00:14:33] and I was supposed
[00:14:34] to go with my friend
[00:14:35] to meet you guys
[00:14:37] and everything
[00:14:38] and then I met them
[00:14:38] for the first time.
[00:14:39] We sang together
[00:14:40] the next day.
[00:14:41] They were like,
[00:14:41] you want to be a bass player?
[00:14:42] I'm like,
[00:14:43] oh, I'm a little too busy
[00:14:44] but then they asked me again
[00:14:46] and I was like,
[00:14:46] ah, you know what?
[00:14:47] I'm not that busy.
[00:14:49] Yeah.
[00:14:49] We didn't ask her again.
[00:14:51] She literally said,
[00:14:53] guys,
[00:14:53] I got to be in the band.
[00:14:54] Yeah.
[00:14:55] I was like,
[00:14:56] nah, let's do it
[00:14:57] and then I came in the picture.
[00:14:59] So,
[00:14:59] when you all started
[00:15:00] jamming together,
[00:15:01] did it come together
[00:15:01] right away?
[00:15:02] Like, it was just
[00:15:03] like a perfect chemistry?
[00:15:06] I mean,
[00:15:07] as much as it can be
[00:15:08] when you're playing
[00:15:09] with new people,
[00:15:11] right?
[00:15:11] Like,
[00:15:12] it did feel
[00:15:13] very organic
[00:15:14] right from the start.
[00:15:15] We felt like
[00:15:16] we had the same
[00:15:18] sort of vision
[00:15:19] for the music.
[00:15:20] It obviously
[00:15:21] takes time
[00:15:22] to work together.
[00:15:24] Yeah.
[00:15:25] But,
[00:15:25] yeah,
[00:15:26] it was good vibes.
[00:15:27] Yeah,
[00:15:28] for sure.
[00:15:28] Yeah,
[00:15:29] I think that's super important.
[00:15:31] I've been in bands
[00:15:32] where I've got together
[00:15:33] and it's just like
[00:15:34] immediately feels
[00:15:35] kind of weird,
[00:15:36] right?
[00:15:36] Yeah.
[00:15:36] And I've been in bands
[00:15:37] that you get together
[00:15:39] and you leave
[00:15:40] the band practice
[00:15:40] and you're like,
[00:15:41] fuck,
[00:15:41] that was really good.
[00:15:42] Like,
[00:15:42] you just,
[00:15:42] you think about it
[00:15:43] and whatever.
[00:15:44] And it's true about
[00:15:46] as good as it can be
[00:15:47] for what it is,
[00:15:48] right?
[00:15:48] Because as good
[00:15:49] as you are
[00:15:50] at the stage
[00:15:51] you're at,
[00:15:52] a year from now
[00:15:53] you'll listen back
[00:15:53] to where you were
[00:15:54] and you'll be like,
[00:15:54] oh,
[00:15:55] Jesus.
[00:15:55] You know what I mean?
[00:15:56] So,
[00:15:56] I think it's fun
[00:15:57] how bands get together
[00:15:59] and they evolve
[00:15:59] and they slowly
[00:16:00] kind of like
[00:16:01] build a sound,
[00:16:04] I guess,
[00:16:04] or an atmosphere
[00:16:05] of the band,
[00:16:06] a style.
[00:16:07] So,
[00:16:08] that's very cool.
[00:16:10] Super important
[00:16:11] all get along.
[00:16:12] How does the songwriting
[00:16:12] go in Sugarbomb?
[00:16:15] What do you mean?
[00:16:16] Well,
[00:16:16] who doesn't?
[00:16:17] Is it a collaborative thing?
[00:16:18] Does one person
[00:16:19] have a bunch of songs
[00:16:20] that you play?
[00:16:22] Yes.
[00:16:22] Okay.
[00:16:23] I guess the answer
[00:16:25] is yes to all
[00:16:25] of the above
[00:16:26] because like
[00:16:26] there's songs
[00:16:27] that we've collaborated on,
[00:16:28] there's songs
[00:16:29] that Katie and I
[00:16:30] have written together,
[00:16:31] there's songs
[00:16:31] that Katie alone
[00:16:32] has written,
[00:16:32] there's a song
[00:16:33] that I wrote alone,
[00:16:34] so it really depends.
[00:16:36] But now we kind of
[00:16:37] just all get together
[00:16:38] and try to find
[00:16:39] a rhythm
[00:16:40] either on keyboard
[00:16:41] or guitar
[00:16:41] and then we just
[00:16:42] all add our own
[00:16:43] spin to it
[00:16:44] and then try it out
[00:16:46] in the next band practice
[00:16:47] and it seems to be
[00:16:47] pretty good.
[00:16:48] I mean,
[00:16:48] it's fairly organic.
[00:16:49] Yeah.
[00:16:50] Yeah,
[00:16:50] that's cool.
[00:16:51] That's kind of
[00:16:52] the natural way
[00:16:53] to do it.
[00:16:53] Whenever you start a band,
[00:16:54] it's like,
[00:16:55] I have some songs,
[00:16:55] we have some songs
[00:16:56] and then the more
[00:16:57] you play,
[00:16:57] you start figuring it out
[00:16:58] and it's just like
[00:16:59] you start writing together.
[00:17:01] But even if someone
[00:17:02] still brings it in,
[00:17:03] you make them sound
[00:17:03] like Sugarbomb,
[00:17:04] right?
[00:17:04] Because you know
[00:17:05] what they're going to be
[00:17:06] and that's pretty cool.
[00:17:07] Well,
[00:17:07] that's it.
[00:17:08] And I feel like
[00:17:09] writing with Sugarbomb,
[00:17:11] you know,
[00:17:12] I wrote alone
[00:17:13] for many years
[00:17:14] and then we all
[00:17:16] get together.
[00:17:16] It's like,
[00:17:17] oh,
[00:17:17] it's songwriting night.
[00:17:18] Okay.
[00:17:19] And it just kind of
[00:17:21] the magic happens.
[00:17:23] You know what I mean?
[00:17:24] Like someone will
[00:17:25] play a chord
[00:17:26] and then it's like
[00:17:27] all four of us
[00:17:28] somehow
[00:17:30] by the end of the night,
[00:17:31] there's this song
[00:17:32] we're all stoked about.
[00:17:33] Yeah.
[00:17:33] We got scribbles
[00:17:34] on the paper
[00:17:34] that you hope
[00:17:35] you can read later.
[00:17:36] A lot of scratch
[00:17:38] recording.
[00:17:39] But that takes time,
[00:17:39] right?
[00:17:40] That takes time.
[00:17:41] It takes time
[00:17:42] or sometimes
[00:17:43] it just happens
[00:17:44] like you said
[00:17:45] super organically.
[00:17:46] It's just like
[00:17:47] what happened?
[00:17:48] Like Way Too Late
[00:17:49] was fairly fast.
[00:17:50] We wrote that song
[00:17:51] pretty fast.
[00:17:52] It came along
[00:17:54] really nicely.
[00:17:56] Yeah.
[00:17:56] What is some
[00:17:57] of your individual
[00:17:58] history in Ottawa
[00:17:59] for playing music?
[00:18:03] Anyone want to start?
[00:18:04] I can start.
[00:18:05] So I used to be
[00:18:06] a promoter
[00:18:06] with Black
[00:18:07] Black Widow
[00:18:08] and Chord Production.
[00:18:09] I still am.
[00:18:10] And I started
[00:18:11] playing at a
[00:18:12] cover band
[00:18:13] called 10 Beers After.
[00:18:14] It was just
[00:18:15] cover bands
[00:18:16] playing at like
[00:18:16] Avant Garde
[00:18:17] and like Rainbow Bistro
[00:18:18] and stuff like that.
[00:18:20] Then I just focused
[00:18:21] on promoting
[00:18:22] and stopped
[00:18:23] being in bands.
[00:18:24] But now I'm
[00:18:26] well, I used to be
[00:18:27] in a death metal band
[00:18:27] as well,
[00:18:28] Defenestrated.
[00:18:29] Nice.
[00:18:29] I was playing guitar there
[00:18:30] and then now I'm
[00:18:31] just in Sugar Bomb
[00:18:32] and doing bass
[00:18:33] and I'm still doing
[00:18:34] promoting as well.
[00:18:35] Cool.
[00:18:35] Yeah.
[00:18:35] Goat.
[00:18:36] I know Christina
[00:18:37] Casper.
[00:18:38] Yeah.
[00:18:38] She used to book us
[00:18:40] a ton of times
[00:18:40] for like just
[00:18:41] punk stuff that would
[00:18:42] come.
[00:18:42] I know she's more
[00:18:43] metal,
[00:18:44] but Chord is more
[00:18:44] metal.
[00:18:45] Yeah, more metal,
[00:18:46] even hardcore and stuff.
[00:18:47] Like we've opened up
[00:18:48] a lot like during
[00:18:48] the last few years.
[00:18:49] We're just kind of,
[00:18:50] well, she is mostly
[00:18:51] doing everything.
[00:18:51] I just kind of work
[00:18:52] with her here and there,
[00:18:53] but it's so much fun.
[00:18:54] Like she's done so much
[00:18:55] for the community,
[00:18:55] right?
[00:18:56] Yeah, absolutely.
[00:18:57] She books so many
[00:18:57] bands all the time.
[00:18:58] She was on the podcast
[00:19:00] probably in like season
[00:19:01] one, like eight years
[00:19:03] ago.
[00:19:03] It was just this short
[00:19:04] little thing we did
[00:19:05] over the phone and
[00:19:06] yeah, it was cool.
[00:19:07] Maybe I should have
[00:19:08] her back on.
[00:19:08] How did you phrase that?
[00:19:09] Yeah.
[00:19:09] Yeah.
[00:19:11] Any other histories?
[00:19:14] I guess when I moved
[00:19:16] to Ottawa in 2009,
[00:19:17] a couple of years in,
[00:19:19] I just met one friend
[00:19:21] who introduced me
[00:19:22] to a show and then
[00:19:23] I met like a good chunk
[00:19:24] of the punk community
[00:19:25] that way.
[00:19:26] It's kind of like
[00:19:26] small town.
[00:19:27] Once you meet one
[00:19:28] person in the community,
[00:19:29] you meet everyone else,
[00:19:30] which is great.
[00:19:31] Everyone's friendly
[00:19:32] and I met my friend Mel
[00:19:34] who I started a band
[00:19:36] called Cocinella
[00:19:38] with our friend Alana.
[00:19:40] So we're a three piece.
[00:19:41] That was a lot of fun.
[00:19:43] Alana's from Ottawa?
[00:19:45] Alana.
[00:19:46] Oh, Alana.
[00:19:46] Yeah, Alana.
[00:19:47] I was going to say
[00:19:48] that's kind of...
[00:19:50] Anyway, never mind.
[00:19:52] Her stage name
[00:19:53] was Omijine for a while
[00:19:54] and my friend Mel King
[00:19:55] who was in Scorpion King
[00:19:56] for a while.
[00:19:57] Oh.
[00:19:58] Yeah, so that was
[00:19:59] our little band before
[00:20:00] and then I've always
[00:20:02] been in the community
[00:20:03] since then and then
[00:20:05] yeah, now Sugarbomb.
[00:20:06] Mm-hmm.
[00:20:07] Yeah.
[00:20:08] Well, yeah,
[00:20:09] I moved to Ottawa
[00:20:11] many years ago
[00:20:13] and started
[00:20:16] doing solo stuff.
[00:20:17] I played solo
[00:20:18] for many, many years
[00:20:20] like folk rock,
[00:20:21] you know,
[00:20:22] songwriters,
[00:20:23] singer-songwriter style.
[00:20:24] Singer-songwriter.
[00:20:24] Nothing wrong with that.
[00:20:25] Yeah.
[00:20:26] Hey, I'm not...
[00:20:28] I do that too.
[00:20:28] There's nothing wrong
[00:20:29] with that
[00:20:30] and actually
[00:20:31] I still love it.
[00:20:32] Mm-hmm.
[00:20:32] You know,
[00:20:33] we can be
[00:20:35] multifaceted people,
[00:20:36] right?
[00:20:36] 100%.
[00:20:37] Yeah, I did that
[00:20:38] for many years
[00:20:39] and had a decent career
[00:20:42] and then decided
[00:20:44] to make some money
[00:20:47] and yeah,
[00:20:48] like I said before,
[00:20:49] Steph and I
[00:20:50] started playing together
[00:20:51] and it just felt
[00:20:51] good and right
[00:20:53] and now,
[00:20:55] yeah,
[00:20:55] we're just having a blast.
[00:20:56] It's fun to write music
[00:20:58] that is different
[00:20:59] from what I'm used
[00:21:00] to writing,
[00:21:01] you know,
[00:21:01] to challenge myself
[00:21:02] to write something
[00:21:03] different.
[00:21:04] It's good.
[00:21:05] Also writing with people too.
[00:21:07] That's what I was about to say.
[00:21:08] With people,
[00:21:08] Once you start collaborating
[00:21:09] with other people,
[00:21:10] it kind of forces you
[00:21:11] to open up different
[00:21:11] windows in the house,
[00:21:13] right?
[00:21:13] Big time.
[00:21:14] Now is Kirk's segment.
[00:21:17] Kirk.
[00:21:18] Let's talk about Kirk,
[00:21:19] what he does,
[00:21:20] where he is
[00:21:26] where you couldn't make it, buddy.
[00:21:27] miss you, buddy.
[00:21:28] We miss you.
[00:21:30] Yeah,
[00:21:30] he's our drummer.
[00:21:32] He's the best.
[00:21:33] It's funny, right?
[00:21:34] He's been around the block
[00:21:36] a few times though,
[00:21:37] hasn't he?
[00:21:37] Yeah.
[00:21:37] Like in Ottawa?
[00:21:38] I was reading some stuff
[00:21:39] like he's been in,
[00:21:41] I don't think there's a drummer
[00:21:42] in Ottawa that isn't in
[00:21:43] at least like two or three bands
[00:21:45] because they are
[00:21:46] a hot commodity, right?
[00:21:48] That's right.
[00:21:48] And I'd imagine
[00:21:48] Kirk is the same.
[00:21:49] He actually right now
[00:21:50] is Justin Sugarbomb
[00:21:52] but he was in a few bands before.
[00:21:54] Yeah.
[00:21:55] And he's from
[00:21:56] not from here.
[00:21:57] From Turo.
[00:21:58] Yeah,
[00:21:59] where all the streets
[00:22:00] intersect in Nova Scotia.
[00:22:02] Okay.
[00:22:02] He was into the punk scene there
[00:22:04] and but crazy talented.
[00:22:06] He is like,
[00:22:06] he keeps up with us
[00:22:08] with our crazy dynamic too.
[00:22:09] He adds a lot to the band
[00:22:11] as you know,
[00:22:13] he keeps us on our toes.
[00:22:14] Awesome.
[00:22:15] Too bad you couldn't make it, Kirk.
[00:22:16] Maybe part two.
[00:22:17] Hopefully.
[00:22:18] You had mentioned that
[00:22:19] you were getting to know
[00:22:22] people in the punk community.
[00:22:23] Do you actually consider
[00:22:24] Sugarbomb a punk band?
[00:22:26] I think we're right.
[00:22:28] No.
[00:22:28] I would say
[00:22:29] kind of like a pop punk.
[00:22:31] We do have some
[00:22:33] aspects to it
[00:22:34] but we're not just
[00:22:35] one genre,
[00:22:36] I would say.
[00:22:36] We like are
[00:22:37] three different genres
[00:22:38] put together
[00:22:39] like alternative,
[00:22:40] indie.
[00:22:40] Don't put us in a box, man.
[00:22:42] Yeah.
[00:22:42] It's super hard.
[00:22:43] We're all so different,
[00:22:44] you know,
[00:22:44] so it's hard to find
[00:22:45] a genre that we just fit in.
[00:22:47] 100%.
[00:22:48] I think it's the worst,
[00:22:49] the hardest thing to do
[00:22:50] is to,
[00:22:51] when someone asks you
[00:22:52] what kind of band are you?
[00:22:54] And you're just like,
[00:22:55] oh fuck.
[00:22:55] Fun.
[00:22:56] We're a fun band.
[00:22:57] I always say,
[00:22:58] my thing is I just say
[00:23:00] I play rock.
[00:23:00] I play rock.
[00:23:01] I'm a rock band.
[00:23:02] Because that just covers,
[00:23:03] it's an umbrella, right?
[00:23:04] It's punk rock,
[00:23:05] it's metal rock,
[00:23:06] it's fucking,
[00:23:06] you know,
[00:23:07] it's blues rock,
[00:23:07] it's whatever you want it to be.
[00:23:09] There's some punk?
[00:23:09] That's my thing,
[00:23:10] whenever anyone asks.
[00:23:11] There's some rock?
[00:23:13] There's some crazy?
[00:23:14] Yeah.
[00:23:15] Yeah.
[00:23:16] But I think punk is also
[00:23:17] like just music
[00:23:19] that's very political
[00:23:20] and different from the norm
[00:23:21] and like we do have
[00:23:23] some political songs.
[00:23:24] How do you define punk?
[00:23:26] Yeah,
[00:23:26] it is hard to define punk,
[00:23:28] but.
[00:23:28] Burn down your school.
[00:23:32] I'll burn my bra right now.
[00:23:34] I don't care.
[00:23:34] I'll do it.
[00:23:35] I guess if we had to break it down,
[00:23:36] I've always played punk rock.
[00:23:38] It's just something
[00:23:38] that I always listened to
[00:23:39] when I was a kid.
[00:23:41] It was easy for me to learn
[00:23:43] when I was younger.
[00:23:44] I can play a little better now,
[00:23:45] not much better,
[00:23:46] but it's just,
[00:23:47] that's where I get the groove.
[00:23:49] That's where I feel good.
[00:23:51] Everything I write
[00:23:52] as a singer-songwriter,
[00:23:53] I don't consider myself
[00:23:54] a singer-songwriter though.
[00:23:55] I consider myself someone
[00:23:56] who writes songs.
[00:23:59] A singer-songwriter to me
[00:24:01] is somebody who just
[00:24:02] sits in a pub for three hours
[00:24:04] and that's not who I am.
[00:24:06] Yeah, I did that.
[00:24:07] Yeah.
[00:24:07] And it doesn't matter
[00:24:09] if you're in a punk band
[00:24:10] or a rock band,
[00:24:11] as long as you're out there
[00:24:11] kind of doing it,
[00:24:12] there's no judgment there.
[00:24:13] It's just like,
[00:24:13] yeah, absolutely.
[00:24:14] Throughout my entire career,
[00:24:17] I'm in bands and stuff like that,
[00:24:19] but I'll always go and play
[00:24:20] an acoustic solo show
[00:24:21] or something,
[00:24:21] you know,
[00:24:22] because it's just something
[00:24:23] to do and it's fun.
[00:24:24] It's a nice variety.
[00:24:24] Yeah.
[00:24:25] And it's a challenge too, right?
[00:24:26] Like doing it yourself
[00:24:27] is a little harder.
[00:24:28] Like I have so much alone stuff
[00:24:29] that I've done
[00:24:30] that's never been released,
[00:24:31] but now I'm kind of like
[00:24:32] motivated to do it.
[00:24:34] 100%.
[00:24:34] Yeah.
[00:24:34] Yeah, just do it.
[00:24:37] Don't overthink it too.
[00:24:38] I just released an EP.
[00:24:40] It's called Mikey No One
[00:24:42] and it's just seven songs
[00:24:44] that I wrote
[00:24:44] and they're all just
[00:24:45] kind of half songs.
[00:24:46] I didn't flesh them out.
[00:24:48] I didn't put over,
[00:24:49] like because I just do
[00:24:50] little recordings here.
[00:24:51] I didn't,
[00:24:52] they're not like three minute
[00:24:53] verse, chorus, verse, chorus.
[00:24:54] They're not the structure
[00:24:55] you'd imagine.
[00:24:56] They're just like
[00:24:56] the best parts of a song
[00:24:58] and some of them
[00:24:58] are like a minute and a half,
[00:25:00] two minutes long
[00:25:00] and then I just released it.
[00:25:01] That's exactly what I have
[00:25:03] going on right now.
[00:25:04] It was the easiest,
[00:25:05] it was the most natural,
[00:25:06] easy kind of writing,
[00:25:07] recording and release
[00:25:08] I've ever done in my life.
[00:25:09] It's good advice.
[00:25:10] Don't overthink it.
[00:25:11] Yeah.
[00:25:12] I mean,
[00:25:13] our whole EP is what?
[00:25:14] Under 10 minutes.
[00:25:16] Pretty much.
[00:25:17] We're so proud.
[00:25:18] We're proud of that.
[00:25:19] That's fine.
[00:25:20] You know,
[00:25:21] it's four songs.
[00:25:22] It's good shit.
[00:25:23] What do you need?
[00:25:24] Like no,
[00:25:25] I'm not going to shit
[00:25:26] on anybody's attention span
[00:25:27] nowadays
[00:25:28] because I think if you like
[00:25:28] something you will listen to it
[00:25:30] but a five minute song,
[00:25:31] like who's,
[00:25:32] it's not that I don't want to listen.
[00:25:34] Who's got the time?
[00:25:36] Who's got the time,
[00:25:37] you know,
[00:25:37] to listen to that?
[00:25:38] I guess you have,
[00:25:39] you know,
[00:25:39] like I'll listen to like
[00:25:41] November Rain from Guns N' Roses
[00:25:43] if it comes on
[00:25:44] and be like,
[00:25:44] yeah,
[00:25:44] because it's like nostalgic
[00:25:45] and it's like eight minutes long
[00:25:47] but four minutes in,
[00:25:48] you're like,
[00:25:48] all right,
[00:25:49] I'm done.
[00:25:49] Can I switch?
[00:25:50] Exactly.
[00:25:50] But it's like for this kind of music
[00:25:52] like pop punk or rock
[00:25:53] or something like that,
[00:25:54] two,
[00:25:54] three minutes max.
[00:25:57] Get to the point,
[00:25:57] have some fun,
[00:25:58] shake your ass a little bit
[00:26:00] and then get out.
[00:26:01] 100%.
[00:26:02] Oh yeah.
[00:26:02] You know,
[00:26:03] and I think less is more sometimes
[00:26:05] and the simpler songs
[00:26:08] are usually the best songs
[00:26:09] and they're also the hardest ones to write.
[00:26:13] I bet you it's easier to write
[00:26:14] a five minute song
[00:26:15] than it is to write a two minute song.
[00:26:17] Sometimes.
[00:26:18] Sometimes.
[00:26:19] Depends what you're going for.
[00:26:20] I guess it depends on the day.
[00:26:22] Speaking of songs,
[00:26:23] let's play a sugar bomb,
[00:26:25] sugar bomb song.
[00:26:26] Sugar bomb song.
[00:26:27] Sugar bomb song.
[00:26:28] Would you like to pick one
[00:26:30] and introduce it?
[00:26:33] Let's listen to Way Too Late.
[00:26:35] It's the title track on our EP.
[00:26:37] One of our newest songs as well.
[00:26:40] It's my favorite song.
[00:26:43] All right.
[00:26:43] There you go.
[00:26:44] This is Way Too Late
[00:26:45] off of Sugar Bomb's
[00:26:46] brand new EP
[00:26:49] called Way Too Late.
[00:26:50] Way Too Late.
[00:26:51] Right here on Ego and Bucks.
[00:26:54] We're back.
[00:29:16] So that was Way Too Late
[00:29:17] by Sugar Bomb.
[00:29:19] Where did you record the EP?
[00:29:22] So we recorded the EP
[00:29:24] at my home studio.
[00:29:25] I own a recording studio
[00:29:27] in Valdemont
[00:29:28] called Loquin Production.
[00:29:31] And we decided to
[00:29:33] kind of do it ourselves
[00:29:34] this time around.
[00:29:35] Kind of wanted to do
[00:29:36] like a live off the floor feeling.
[00:29:38] Really raw.
[00:29:39] A little tough though
[00:29:40] when you're recording yourself
[00:29:41] and the band
[00:29:42] and it's just like
[00:29:43] you don't get the full
[00:29:45] experience I guess
[00:29:46] for me.
[00:29:47] So we decided next time
[00:29:49] we're probably gonna
[00:29:50] get somewhere else
[00:29:52] you know.
[00:29:52] But yeah.
[00:29:53] It was fun though.
[00:29:54] I can relate
[00:29:54] because I kind of
[00:29:56] I do a lot of recording
[00:29:57] at home too
[00:29:58] and it's
[00:29:59] I did a
[00:30:00] my latest GOAT record
[00:30:01] that I released last year
[00:30:02] I actually went to
[00:30:04] my friend studio
[00:30:05] and I got it all done there.
[00:30:07] Yeah.
[00:30:08] And
[00:30:08] it was the
[00:30:09] yeah it was just the experience.
[00:30:11] It costs a lot of money.
[00:30:12] Even with the friend discount
[00:30:14] like after the fact
[00:30:16] after it was done
[00:30:16] because there was like
[00:30:17] 14 songs on it.
[00:30:19] I think that's why
[00:30:20] we decided to do that as well.
[00:30:22] Like we didn't want
[00:30:23] our first EP
[00:30:23] like just four songs
[00:30:24] to like spend too much money
[00:30:26] because we just became
[00:30:26] like a full band a year.
[00:30:28] Right.
[00:30:28] So
[00:30:28] since I have the recording studio
[00:30:30] literally connected to my house
[00:30:31] we're like
[00:30:32] let's just jam there
[00:30:33] and
[00:30:33] figure it out.
[00:30:35] And
[00:30:36] you did a great job.
[00:30:37] Thank you.
[00:30:38] Thank you.
[00:30:39] If you can
[00:30:40] if yeah
[00:30:40] if you're a new band
[00:30:41] and you can save money
[00:30:42] and you don't have to like
[00:30:43] you know
[00:30:43] whatever.
[00:30:44] I think
[00:30:45] just having your own jam spot
[00:30:46] is super valuable.
[00:30:48] Oh yeah.
[00:30:49] I used to jam in a buddy's basement
[00:30:51] I just
[00:30:51] it was his house
[00:30:52] but he would like
[00:30:53] charge us like 30 bucks
[00:30:54] but we could go anytime we wanted
[00:30:56] as long as we want.
[00:30:57] He didn't give a shit.
[00:30:57] You know
[00:30:58] he'd be upstairs watching TV
[00:30:59] or whatever.
[00:30:59] We don't do that anymore.
[00:31:01] Now I'm in a
[00:31:01] like a rehearsal spot
[00:31:02] and it's just like
[00:31:04] two hours is almost up.
[00:31:05] Yeah.
[00:31:06] We're kind of lucky
[00:31:07] when it comes to that.
[00:31:08] Like we were jamming
[00:31:09] at Steph's old house
[00:31:10] in Ottawa
[00:31:10] and then we would jam
[00:31:11] in my studio
[00:31:12] and now we jam
[00:31:13] back at Steph's new house
[00:31:14] as well.
[00:31:15] Yeah.
[00:31:16] So we're saving some money
[00:31:17] from that
[00:31:17] not like renting out
[00:31:18] you know
[00:31:19] the recording
[00:31:19] or like the rehearsal spots
[00:31:21] which is good.
[00:31:22] Yeah.
[00:31:22] Space to jam is huge.
[00:31:24] You know
[00:31:24] because then
[00:31:25] there's no real rush
[00:31:26] and half the time
[00:31:27] the best parts of jam
[00:31:28] are before you even
[00:31:29] start playing
[00:31:29] and then when you're
[00:31:30] sitting around afterwards.
[00:31:31] Yeah.
[00:31:31] At rehearsal spaces
[00:31:32] it's like hurry up
[00:31:33] and set up
[00:31:33] play
[00:31:33] hurry up
[00:31:34] and get out of here.
[00:31:35] You have an X amount
[00:31:35] of time
[00:31:35] you have to start
[00:31:36] at 7
[00:31:37] leave by 10
[00:31:38] or something.
[00:31:38] Then you're in the parking lot
[00:31:39] trying to have a conversation
[00:31:40] for five minutes
[00:31:40] but everyone kind of
[00:31:41] wants to go.
[00:31:42] Yeah.
[00:31:42] So you've had a lot of shows
[00:31:45] I saw The Dom
[00:31:46] live on Elgin
[00:31:48] Cafe de Cuff
[00:31:49] Yeah.
[00:31:50] Nice.
[00:31:50] House of Targ
[00:31:51] and you played
[00:31:53] Bitch Fest in Toronto
[00:31:54] in Toronto
[00:31:55] How was that?
[00:31:55] ABG
[00:31:56] What's that all about?
[00:31:57] Yeah.
[00:31:57] That was awesome.
[00:31:58] It was actually on my birthday too.
[00:32:00] That's true.
[00:32:01] I don't even know
[00:32:02] how we got that gig
[00:32:03] I think Steph
[00:32:05] Yeah.
[00:32:05] SDMV reached out to us
[00:32:08] and asked us
[00:32:09] and they were like
[00:32:10] yeah you should apply
[00:32:11] to our festival
[00:32:12] I'm like that sounds great
[00:32:13] that's really nice
[00:32:15] that they asked us
[00:32:16] I'm like hell yeah.
[00:32:17] Yeah.
[00:32:17] Yeah it was great.
[00:32:18] That was a great show.
[00:32:19] So many good bands
[00:32:20] so many good people
[00:32:21] Yeah.
[00:32:22] We had a blast.
[00:32:23] We met some really nice people
[00:32:24] from the other bands too.
[00:32:26] That's what I love most
[00:32:27] about this
[00:32:28] is just meeting
[00:32:28] other musicians
[00:32:30] networking
[00:32:31] Oh yeah.
[00:32:31] I'm discovering good music too
[00:32:33] I mean networking
[00:32:34] is a weird term
[00:32:34] I just add them all to my Spotify
[00:32:35] That's what?
[00:32:37] Networking is a weird term
[00:32:38] Yeah well
[00:32:40] it's the term
[00:32:41] that I've always used
[00:32:42] that makes sense to me
[00:32:43] It makes sense
[00:32:44] I agree
[00:32:45] but it feels more like
[00:32:49] I don't know
[00:32:50] work in the net
[00:32:51] I don't know
[00:32:52] I'm kidding
[00:32:53] obviously
[00:32:54] I'm kidding
[00:32:55] every band is kind of
[00:32:56] No it's not working
[00:32:56] it is for sure
[00:32:57] It just feels like
[00:32:59] it's so cool
[00:32:59] when you see a band play
[00:33:01] they rock
[00:33:02] Yeah
[00:33:03] and then you get to
[00:33:04] hang out with them
[00:33:05] and then you get to go on stage
[00:33:06] and play too
[00:33:07] It's like the best feeling
[00:33:09] Yeah
[00:33:09] Yeah well that's the process
[00:33:10] I think it's networking
[00:33:12] because it kind of takes
[00:33:13] the person a lot of it
[00:33:14] because you are there
[00:33:14] and your common interest
[00:33:16] is bands
[00:33:16] and you're kind of like
[00:33:17] helping each other
[00:33:18] it's like maybe we can
[00:33:19] gig swap
[00:33:19] maybe we can do this
[00:33:20] and you know
[00:33:22] chances are
[00:33:23] if you meet 10 bands
[00:33:24] you're not going to have like
[00:33:25] 50 new best friends
[00:33:26] right
[00:33:28] It's networking
[00:33:28] You know what I mean
[00:33:29] Yeah
[00:33:30] I was just teasing
[00:33:31] It kind of makes sense
[00:33:32] Oh I'm sorry
[00:33:33] I just
[00:33:33] I had to
[00:33:34] my brain had to
[00:33:35] explain myself
[00:33:36] Anyway that's cool
[00:33:37] Yeah
[00:33:38] Was that your first
[00:33:39] gig out of town
[00:33:40] with the band
[00:33:40] Yeah
[00:33:41] Have you been out of town since
[00:33:43] No
[00:33:43] but we've been talking about
[00:33:44] how we tried to get a gig
[00:33:46] in Kingston as well
[00:33:47] but I would really love
[00:33:49] to play Montreal
[00:33:49] I would love to
[00:33:50] Montreal
[00:33:51] Montreal is a lot of
[00:33:52] Yeah
[00:33:52] Montreal is super fun
[00:33:53] Yeah
[00:33:53] Yeah
[00:33:54] And I think
[00:33:55] Montreal is awesome
[00:33:56] I always said Ottawa
[00:33:57] is like one of the best
[00:33:58] places to be
[00:33:58] if you're just going to
[00:33:59] centralize
[00:33:59] because it's not as
[00:34:00] crazy as Toronto
[00:34:01] You can still have
[00:34:03] like a comfortable
[00:34:03] home base
[00:34:04] and play shows
[00:34:04] but it's close to
[00:34:05] Toronto
[00:34:05] It's close to
[00:34:06] Montreal
[00:34:07] but I actually like
[00:34:08] Montreal better than
[00:34:09] Toronto
[00:34:10] I think Toronto is
[00:34:10] just a big
[00:34:11] fucking rat race
[00:34:12] It's insane
[00:34:12] I really do
[00:34:13] It's so crazy
[00:34:14] Yeah
[00:34:14] It's crazy
[00:34:14] And I think they have
[00:34:15] their own kind of
[00:34:16] little thing going on
[00:34:18] there
[00:34:18] I've
[00:34:18] I used to
[00:34:19] I used to
[00:34:20] not look forward
[00:34:20] to Toronto
[00:34:21] but when I went to
[00:34:22] Montreal
[00:34:22] I always looked forward
[00:34:23] to it
[00:34:23] because the people
[00:34:23] I met there
[00:34:24] it's so easy
[00:34:25] to be like
[00:34:26] hey
[00:34:26] you guys are awesome
[00:34:28] have you ever
[00:34:28] played Ottawa
[00:34:29] no we totally
[00:34:29] want to play Ottawa
[00:34:30] well we totally
[00:34:31] want to play Montreal
[00:34:32] and then you call
[00:34:33] like Alex at
[00:34:34] Avantgarde
[00:34:34] and say hey
[00:34:35] and then you work
[00:34:35] it out
[00:34:36] and then you
[00:34:36] gig swap
[00:34:37] and then they
[00:34:37] bring you to
[00:34:38] Montreal
[00:34:38] and shit
[00:34:38] and it's only
[00:34:39] like an hour
[00:34:40] and a half away
[00:34:40] and also like
[00:34:41] stay at my place
[00:34:42] you can stay
[00:34:42] at my place
[00:34:43] yeah
[00:34:43] it's not like
[00:34:44] five hours to Toronto
[00:34:45] to stay in the stink
[00:34:47] of it all
[00:34:47] and actually
[00:34:49] ooh we're in Ajax
[00:34:50] oops
[00:34:50] sorry
[00:34:53] right
[00:34:53] home of
[00:34:54] some 41
[00:34:55] yeah that's right
[00:34:56] you say that
[00:34:57] but it's funny
[00:34:57] because like
[00:34:58] I find
[00:34:58] the music crowd
[00:35:00] in Toronto
[00:35:01] I kind of prefer
[00:35:02] like I run a festival
[00:35:03] in Toronto
[00:35:04] it's death metal
[00:35:04] like Ontario Death Fest
[00:35:05] and I like it
[00:35:07] because everybody
[00:35:08] tends to
[00:35:09] kind of want
[00:35:10] to go to Toronto
[00:35:11] more than Montreal
[00:35:11] for some reason
[00:35:12] when it comes to that
[00:35:13] yeah
[00:35:14] I'm sure there's
[00:35:15] pros and cons
[00:35:16] for both
[00:35:17] yeah
[00:35:17] it also depends
[00:35:17] on the genre
[00:35:18] too I find
[00:35:19] you know
[00:35:19] genre is a big deal
[00:35:20] definitely
[00:35:20] but also like
[00:35:21] I mean
[00:35:22] there's so many people
[00:35:24] well
[00:35:25] Montreal and Toronto
[00:35:26] are both big
[00:35:27] cities
[00:35:28] but Toronto's
[00:35:29] huge
[00:35:30] yeah
[00:35:30] it's dense
[00:35:32] I'm not
[00:35:32] you know what
[00:35:33] I don't want
[00:35:34] to come off
[00:35:34] the wrong way
[00:35:35] I'm not shitting
[00:35:36] on the music scene
[00:35:38] or the fans
[00:35:38] in Toronto
[00:35:39] I just don't care
[00:35:40] for the experience
[00:35:41] of the city
[00:35:42] yeah
[00:35:42] that's all I'm
[00:35:43] that's all I'm
[00:35:44] trying to say
[00:35:44] were you there
[00:35:45] for Taylor Swift
[00:35:46] I was not
[00:35:48] no
[00:35:49] neither was I
[00:35:51] so
[00:35:53] what's
[00:35:54] what's going on
[00:35:55] for 2025
[00:35:56] for Sugar Bomb
[00:35:57] what do you
[00:35:58] do you have some
[00:35:58] plans
[00:35:59] you have some
[00:35:59] stuff booked
[00:36:00] do you have a
[00:36:00] mission statement
[00:36:02] five year plan
[00:36:03] well
[00:36:04] I think
[00:36:04] I think
[00:36:05] we are all
[00:36:06] kind of excited
[00:36:07] to do some
[00:36:07] more songwriting
[00:36:08] we do have
[00:36:09] some new songs
[00:36:09] in the works
[00:36:10] that we haven't
[00:36:10] played yet
[00:36:11] and
[00:36:12] yeah
[00:36:13] I'm really
[00:36:14] looking forward
[00:36:14] to just
[00:36:14] hanging out
[00:36:15] having more
[00:36:15] songwriting
[00:36:16] sessions
[00:36:17] playing out
[00:36:18] of town
[00:36:18] hopefully
[00:36:19] yeah
[00:36:20] some touring
[00:36:21] going on
[00:36:21] like even
[00:36:22] two three
[00:36:22] days
[00:36:23] here and there
[00:36:24] that's what
[00:36:24] I'm looking
[00:36:25] forward to
[00:36:25] you had a
[00:36:26] friend reaching
[00:36:26] out to you
[00:36:27] about a live
[00:36:27] oh yeah
[00:36:28] so we're
[00:36:29] looking to
[00:36:29] play at
[00:36:30] live at
[00:36:31] Raven Street
[00:36:32] as well
[00:36:32] I went to
[00:36:33] school there
[00:36:34] for audio
[00:36:34] so it would
[00:36:35] be like a
[00:36:35] full circle
[00:36:36] moment to go
[00:36:36] back and play
[00:36:37] yeah
[00:36:38] that's right
[00:36:39] see it all
[00:36:39] paid off
[00:36:40] I know
[00:36:40] right
[00:36:41] that's for
[00:36:42] sure
[00:36:42] yeah I love
[00:36:43] I love just
[00:36:43] like mini tours
[00:36:44] like that
[00:36:45] where it's just
[00:36:45] like three shows
[00:36:46] in three days
[00:36:46] or something
[00:36:47] like that
[00:36:47] kind of close
[00:36:48] yeah
[00:36:49] those are fun
[00:36:50] long tours
[00:36:51] are fun too
[00:36:51] but
[00:36:52] it's harder
[00:36:53] to do it now
[00:36:54] especially with
[00:36:54] our age
[00:36:55] like I have
[00:36:55] two dogs
[00:36:56] being a fan
[00:36:56] in your 30s
[00:36:57] is hard
[00:36:58] yeah I'm
[00:36:59] getting married
[00:36:59] this summer
[00:37:00] I'm busy
[00:37:01] yeah
[00:37:02] life is
[00:37:03] life is crazy
[00:37:04] I'm in a band
[00:37:05] called the
[00:37:05] Riptides too
[00:37:07] and there
[00:37:07] we're all
[00:37:08] I don't have
[00:37:09] kids
[00:37:09] and I don't
[00:37:10] have
[00:37:11] like I'm not
[00:37:11] married and I
[00:37:12] don't have
[00:37:12] kids but they
[00:37:13] all have
[00:37:13] kids and stuff
[00:37:14] so we had it
[00:37:15] all kind of
[00:37:15] figured out
[00:37:15] before the
[00:37:16] pandemic
[00:37:17] and then
[00:37:17] three years
[00:37:18] later we
[00:37:19] didn't do
[00:37:19] anything
[00:37:19] and then
[00:37:20] it was just
[00:37:21] trying to
[00:37:21] find like
[00:37:21] the day to
[00:37:22] jam again
[00:37:23] because everyone
[00:37:23] had like a
[00:37:24] different
[00:37:24] routine
[00:37:24] everyone
[00:37:25] you know
[00:37:25] and the
[00:37:26] kids were
[00:37:26] a little
[00:37:26] bit older
[00:37:27] and stuff
[00:37:27] and it's
[00:37:27] just like
[00:37:29] everybody I
[00:37:29] talk to now
[00:37:30] is just like
[00:37:30] do you want
[00:37:30] to jam
[00:37:31] it's just
[00:37:31] like oh
[00:37:31] I got the
[00:37:33] kids that
[00:37:33] weekend
[00:37:33] and it's
[00:37:34] just like
[00:37:34] let me look
[00:37:34] at my
[00:37:35] calendar
[00:37:36] what the hell
[00:37:37] has happened
[00:37:38] but you know
[00:37:39] it only gets
[00:37:40] harder I think
[00:37:41] yeah
[00:37:41] but I mean
[00:37:43] you make it
[00:37:44] you make it
[00:37:44] a priority
[00:37:45] you make time
[00:37:46] where you'll
[00:37:46] find
[00:37:46] yeah
[00:37:47] we've been
[00:37:48] pretty consistent
[00:37:48] like we jam
[00:37:49] every week
[00:37:49] on Tuesdays
[00:37:50] sometimes we have
[00:37:51] to change it
[00:37:52] here and there
[00:37:52] but other than
[00:37:53] that like
[00:37:53] we're mostly
[00:37:54] this year
[00:37:55] I think we're
[00:37:55] playing more
[00:37:56] shows and
[00:37:56] writing more
[00:37:57] and trying to
[00:37:58] focus on like
[00:37:59] a full length
[00:37:59] good
[00:38:00] and actually
[00:38:00] record something
[00:38:01] more that's
[00:38:02] not just you
[00:38:03] know live off
[00:38:04] the floor
[00:38:04] kind of thing
[00:38:05] a little bit
[00:38:05] more like
[00:38:05] profesh
[00:38:06] yeah yeah
[00:38:07] no that's
[00:38:08] good
[00:38:08] that's good
[00:38:10] full albums
[00:38:11] EPs
[00:38:11] singles
[00:38:13] how do you
[00:38:13] feel about
[00:38:14] that
[00:38:17] maybe I
[00:38:17] should be
[00:38:17] more specific
[00:38:19] do you think
[00:38:20] do you think
[00:38:20] there's still
[00:38:21] an appetite
[00:38:22] for full
[00:38:23] albums
[00:38:23] or do you
[00:38:24] think people
[00:38:24] are more
[00:38:27] like focused
[00:38:27] in when a
[00:38:28] single comes
[00:38:28] out is that
[00:38:29] a better way
[00:38:29] to represent
[00:38:30] your band
[00:38:30] or get your
[00:38:31] band kind
[00:38:31] of out there
[00:38:32] the sound
[00:38:32] I feel like
[00:38:33] yes
[00:38:34] because like
[00:38:35] you said
[00:38:35] you know
[00:38:35] the attention
[00:38:36] span of people
[00:38:37] no one has
[00:38:37] the time
[00:38:38] either
[00:38:38] to just
[00:38:39] sit there
[00:38:39] and listen
[00:38:39] to like
[00:38:40] a two hour
[00:38:40] album
[00:38:41] so I
[00:38:41] find
[00:38:42] four or five
[00:38:43] songs
[00:38:43] here and there
[00:38:44] maybe this is
[00:38:44] coming from
[00:38:45] my singer
[00:38:45] songwriter
[00:38:46] background
[00:38:46] I love
[00:38:48] a full album
[00:38:49] I do
[00:38:50] I love it
[00:38:51] I think
[00:38:52] it'd be
[00:38:52] awesome
[00:38:53] for us
[00:38:53] to have
[00:38:54] a solid
[00:38:55] 10
[00:38:55] 12 songs
[00:38:57] new
[00:38:57] fresh
[00:38:59] sick
[00:38:59] material
[00:39:00] we can put
[00:39:01] out 12
[00:39:01] songs at once
[00:39:02] and then
[00:39:03] keep writing
[00:39:04] oh yeah
[00:39:04] we don't
[00:39:05] I mean
[00:39:05] you don't
[00:39:06] have to listen
[00:39:06] to the whole
[00:39:07] thing
[00:39:07] right
[00:39:08] no please
[00:39:09] do
[00:39:10] you don't
[00:39:10] have to
[00:39:11] though
[00:39:13] I hear
[00:39:13] your point
[00:39:14] it's for us
[00:39:15] it's not
[00:39:16] for you
[00:39:16] well it's
[00:39:17] for you
[00:39:17] too
[00:39:18] I think
[00:39:19] like full
[00:39:20] album
[00:39:20] if it's
[00:39:21] an artist
[00:39:21] that you're
[00:39:21] really
[00:39:22] stoked
[00:39:22] about
[00:39:22] sure
[00:39:23] yeah
[00:39:24] like I
[00:39:24] love
[00:39:24] Wetleg's
[00:39:25] album
[00:39:25] yeah
[00:39:26] so good
[00:39:27] there's
[00:39:27] something
[00:39:27] special
[00:39:28] about
[00:39:28] putting
[00:39:29] together
[00:39:30] a full
[00:39:31] completed
[00:39:32] album
[00:39:33] that you've
[00:39:34] worked on
[00:39:35] and has
[00:39:36] a cohesiveness
[00:39:37] right
[00:39:38] EPs are
[00:39:40] great
[00:39:41] I'm so
[00:39:42] pumped about
[00:39:43] our EP
[00:39:43] I'm so
[00:39:44] pumped
[00:39:44] singles
[00:39:45] amazing
[00:39:46] love it
[00:39:47] but there
[00:39:48] is something
[00:39:48] different
[00:39:49] about a
[00:39:50] full album
[00:39:50] so I think
[00:39:51] it's two
[00:39:53] sides of the
[00:39:53] coin right
[00:39:53] yeah
[00:39:54] no I agree
[00:39:55] I 100%
[00:39:56] agree
[00:39:57] I think
[00:39:57] if you like
[00:39:58] a band
[00:39:58] you'll listen
[00:39:58] to whatever
[00:39:59] is out
[00:39:59] the more
[00:40:00] the better
[00:40:02] launching a
[00:40:03] band trying
[00:40:03] to get your
[00:40:04] name out
[00:40:04] there
[00:40:04] maybe singles
[00:40:05] are better
[00:40:05] because maybe
[00:40:06] a full length
[00:40:07] is like
[00:40:07] amazing
[00:40:12] which might
[00:40:12] be found
[00:40:13] later
[00:40:13] but whatever
[00:40:14] here's
[00:40:14] a secret
[00:40:15] I just
[00:40:16] thought about
[00:40:16] it
[00:40:17] it's probably
[00:40:17] been done
[00:40:17] because it's
[00:40:18] all been
[00:40:18] done
[00:40:18] write 12
[00:40:19] songs
[00:40:20] but you know
[00:40:21] people release
[00:40:22] double albums
[00:40:22] release a double
[00:40:23] EP
[00:40:25] maybe five
[00:40:26] and five
[00:40:26] and that way
[00:40:27] you can still
[00:40:27] release all the
[00:40:28] songs
[00:40:28] and listen to
[00:40:29] them all
[00:40:30] together
[00:40:30] but then you
[00:40:31] have two
[00:40:31] launch dates
[00:40:32] for more
[00:40:33] media attention
[00:40:34] I also like
[00:40:36] singles too
[00:40:37] because you're
[00:40:37] getting people
[00:40:38] pumped up
[00:40:38] for what's
[00:40:39] coming
[00:40:39] you're not
[00:40:40] just like
[00:40:40] here are five
[00:40:41] songs
[00:40:41] every single
[00:40:42] time
[00:40:42] we release
[00:40:42] something
[00:40:43] here's five
[00:40:43] of everything
[00:40:44] it's a little
[00:40:45] bit more like
[00:40:45] this is what
[00:40:46] we're working
[00:40:46] on
[00:40:47] this might
[00:40:47] be the
[00:40:47] direction
[00:40:48] we're going
[00:40:48] on
[00:40:49] but it could
[00:40:49] be completely
[00:40:50] different
[00:40:50] even the EP
[00:40:52] it's like
[00:40:52] we have a slow
[00:40:53] song
[00:40:53] we have fast
[00:40:54] songs
[00:40:54] our new ones
[00:40:55] are completely
[00:40:55] different too
[00:40:57] I was always
[00:40:57] I'm a fan of
[00:40:58] albums just
[00:40:59] because it
[00:40:59] captures that
[00:41:00] moment in
[00:41:00] time
[00:41:01] because if
[00:41:01] you have
[00:41:01] a band
[00:41:02] that has
[00:41:02] like 12
[00:41:02] records
[00:41:03] and you
[00:41:03] listen to
[00:41:03] them
[00:41:03] like oh
[00:41:04] that was
[00:41:04] from 1996
[00:41:06] that was
[00:41:07] from 2000
[00:41:07] and it
[00:41:08] captures that
[00:41:09] moment
[00:41:09] that capsule
[00:41:10] of time
[00:41:10] rather than
[00:41:11] singles
[00:41:15] but that's
[00:41:16] cool
[00:41:17] as long
[00:41:18] as you get
[00:41:18] the music
[00:41:19] out there
[00:41:19] and you're
[00:41:19] having fun
[00:41:20] writing it
[00:41:20] and you're
[00:41:22] playing shows
[00:41:23] I think
[00:41:24] that's the
[00:41:24] main thing
[00:41:24] anyway
[00:41:25] I've always
[00:41:26] said music
[00:41:26] is like a
[00:41:27] performance
[00:41:27] out or live
[00:41:28] music
[00:41:28] and it's
[00:41:28] like yeah
[00:41:29] you can
[00:41:30] release the
[00:41:30] music
[00:41:31] but the most
[00:41:31] fun is just
[00:41:32] getting up
[00:41:32] on stage
[00:41:33] and playing
[00:41:33] I love
[00:41:34] it
[00:41:36] and once
[00:41:36] you get a
[00:41:37] taste of
[00:41:38] that
[00:41:39] you'll always
[00:41:39] crave it
[00:41:40] it doesn't
[00:41:41] matter if
[00:41:41] there's 10
[00:41:41] people in
[00:41:42] the room
[00:41:42] or 200
[00:41:43] it's just
[00:41:43] like I
[00:41:43] want to
[00:41:44] play
[00:41:44] you're not
[00:41:44] wrong
[00:41:44] yeah
[00:41:45] I think we
[00:41:47] were watching
[00:41:47] lazy brats
[00:41:48] play and
[00:41:49] like Katie
[00:41:49] and I
[00:41:50] were nudging
[00:41:50] each other
[00:41:50] like I
[00:41:51] can't wait
[00:41:51] for our
[00:41:51] show
[00:41:52] coming up
[00:41:52] next week
[00:41:53] yeah you
[00:41:53] get that
[00:41:54] right you
[00:41:54] get right
[00:41:54] inspired and
[00:41:55] you're all
[00:41:56] revved up
[00:41:56] like oh I
[00:41:57] can do that
[00:41:57] too
[00:41:58] I know
[00:41:59] I know
[00:42:00] it's a treat
[00:42:01] it's an
[00:42:01] absolute
[00:42:02] treat
[00:42:02] it's a
[00:42:02] privilege
[00:42:02] to do
[00:42:03] you know
[00:42:03] because
[00:42:04] there's
[00:42:04] people that
[00:42:04] will go
[00:42:04] through their
[00:42:05] entire lives
[00:42:06] and never
[00:42:06] stand on stage
[00:42:07] and do anything
[00:42:08] like that
[00:42:08] not because
[00:42:09] they're afraid
[00:42:10] to it's just
[00:42:10] they've never
[00:42:11] had the
[00:42:11] opportunity
[00:42:11] so
[00:42:12] yeah
[00:42:12] and how many
[00:42:13] people come
[00:42:13] pay to watch
[00:42:14] you scream
[00:42:15] and sing
[00:42:15] into a mic
[00:42:16] and they go
[00:42:17] crazy
[00:42:17] like we had
[00:42:18] crazy mosh
[00:42:19] bit going
[00:42:19] on people
[00:42:20] crowd surfing
[00:42:21] like the whole
[00:42:22] front row was
[00:42:23] going insane
[00:42:23] at one point
[00:42:24] I see everyone
[00:42:25] headbanging
[00:42:25] I'm like
[00:42:26] this is why
[00:42:27] I go crazy
[00:42:27] on stage
[00:42:28] 100%
[00:42:28] I love
[00:42:29] I love
[00:42:29] putting up
[00:42:30] like a show
[00:42:31] but it's funny
[00:42:31] because as
[00:42:32] like a regular
[00:42:34] not regular
[00:42:34] but by myself
[00:42:35] I have crazy
[00:42:36] stage fright
[00:42:37] like I would
[00:42:37] never go up
[00:42:38] on stage
[00:42:38] just by myself
[00:42:39] but with the
[00:42:40] band
[00:42:40] I'm like
[00:42:41] on the ground
[00:42:41] like I was
[00:42:42] on my knees
[00:42:42] playing my
[00:42:43] bass
[00:42:43] you know
[00:42:43] what I mean
[00:42:44] like with the
[00:42:45] band I'm just
[00:42:46] like alright
[00:42:46] cool let's
[00:42:47] do this
[00:42:47] yeah you break
[00:42:48] that you break
[00:42:49] the ice kind
[00:42:50] of and you just
[00:42:51] kind of go for
[00:42:51] it but you feed
[00:42:52] off the energy
[00:42:52] too
[00:42:53] it's 100%
[00:42:54] yeah
[00:42:54] that's it
[00:42:54] and it's like
[00:42:55] with other people
[00:42:56] too you feed
[00:42:56] off their energy
[00:42:58] like your bandmates
[00:42:59] and that
[00:42:59] yeah you'll see us
[00:43:00] staring at each other
[00:43:01] kind of like
[00:43:01] alright alright
[00:43:02] we're going for it
[00:43:03] let's go
[00:43:04] well most of us
[00:43:05] are pretty reserved
[00:43:06] in our everyday lives
[00:43:07] we try to stay
[00:43:08] out of people's way
[00:43:09] and stuff like that
[00:43:09] and that's your
[00:43:10] one chance
[00:43:10] your 40 minutes
[00:43:11] or 30 minutes
[00:43:12] to just kind of
[00:43:13] like blah
[00:43:13] you know what I mean
[00:43:14] exactly
[00:43:15] this is who we are
[00:43:16] we're cheap
[00:43:16] all the time
[00:43:18] but yeah
[00:43:19] um
[00:43:22] okay
[00:43:23] um
[00:43:26] I think
[00:43:26] we covered
[00:43:27] anything
[00:43:27] everything
[00:43:27] is there anything
[00:43:28] else you wanted
[00:43:29] to touch on
[00:43:30] as far as
[00:43:30] Sugarbomb
[00:43:31] or did you have
[00:43:32] any shoutouts
[00:43:32] you wanted to
[00:43:33] uh
[00:43:33] give to anybody
[00:43:34] yeah
[00:43:35] um
[00:43:35] sure
[00:43:36] yeah
[00:43:37] so we
[00:43:37] even though
[00:43:38] we recorded
[00:43:38] at the uh
[00:43:39] the studio
[00:43:40] and I did
[00:43:41] mostly
[00:43:41] well all the
[00:43:42] recording and
[00:43:42] everything
[00:43:43] we did have
[00:43:44] Adam
[00:43:44] um
[00:43:45] so after a while
[00:43:46] of like listening
[00:43:47] to the same stuff
[00:43:48] over and over again
[00:43:49] you get ear fatigue
[00:43:50] right
[00:43:50] like as an audio
[00:43:50] engineer
[00:43:51] I'm just like
[00:43:52] one I'm too busy
[00:43:53] and two it's my band
[00:43:53] so I'm very critical
[00:43:54] of like how I'm mixing
[00:43:55] so I reached out to him
[00:43:57] I was like hey
[00:43:57] can we work together
[00:43:58] and he came through
[00:44:00] and he definitely
[00:44:01] helped us out a lot
[00:44:02] with the album
[00:44:02] so that was really nice
[00:44:04] of him
[00:44:04] thanks Adam
[00:44:04] but we also want to
[00:44:06] give a shout out
[00:44:06] to Jessa
[00:44:07] for taking our
[00:44:08] awesome EP photos
[00:44:09] we had such a good time
[00:44:10] yeah
[00:44:11] was that in the pink bathtub
[00:44:12] yeah
[00:44:12] yeah it was
[00:44:14] Katie's bathroom
[00:44:14] actually
[00:44:15] okay
[00:44:15] it was yeah
[00:44:17] that was a good time
[00:44:17] and having a good friend
[00:44:18] take photos of you
[00:44:19] like it's
[00:44:21] you just feel so much
[00:44:22] more comfortable
[00:44:22] and she understood
[00:44:23] the assignment
[00:44:24] yeah she really did
[00:44:25] and she also did
[00:44:26] our poster art
[00:44:27] for the EP release show
[00:44:28] and yeah
[00:44:29] Jessa was great
[00:44:30] nailed it
[00:44:31] yeah
[00:44:31] it's good to have friends
[00:44:33] it really is
[00:44:34] talent for friends
[00:44:35] yeah
[00:44:35] creative friends
[00:44:36] we'll say that
[00:44:37] yep
[00:44:38] talent is subjective
[00:44:39] creativity
[00:44:40] yeah right
[00:44:40] creativity
[00:44:41] is undeniable
[00:44:42] that's fair
[00:44:44] okay
[00:44:44] so that's it
[00:44:45] for the conversation
[00:44:46] do you want to play
[00:44:47] the rapid question game
[00:44:49] yeah
[00:44:49] it's called
[00:44:50] 13 questions
[00:44:51] with the band
[00:44:52] done
[00:44:52] let's do it
[00:44:53] I'm scared
[00:44:54] time for
[00:44:54] 13 questions
[00:44:55] with the band
[00:44:56] yes this segment's
[00:44:58] back again
[00:44:58] it's called
[00:44:59] 13 questions
[00:45:00] but I only asked
[00:45:01] 6
[00:45:01] maybe 5
[00:45:02] okay
[00:45:03] rapid questions
[00:45:06] with sugar bomb
[00:45:07] 13 questions
[00:45:07] with the band
[00:45:08] okay
[00:45:08] I have 13 questions
[00:45:10] but I don't ask
[00:45:11] the 13 questions
[00:45:12] I ask from
[00:45:13] the 13 questions
[00:45:14] alright
[00:45:14] if I asked all
[00:45:15] 13 questions
[00:45:16] to 3 different people
[00:45:17] this will be a
[00:45:18] long long show
[00:45:19] anyway
[00:45:19] so we'll start
[00:45:20] with Katie
[00:45:23] what was the
[00:45:24] first CD
[00:45:26] tape or record
[00:45:27] you ever bought
[00:45:28] with your own money
[00:45:29] oh that is
[00:45:30] a terrible
[00:45:31] question
[00:45:32] you know what
[00:45:34] actually
[00:45:34] it was no doubt
[00:45:35] tragic kingdom
[00:45:36] nice
[00:45:37] still
[00:45:38] what was it
[00:45:39] a CD
[00:45:40] CD
[00:45:40] okay
[00:45:41] still one of my
[00:45:42] all time faves
[00:45:42] very good
[00:45:44] moving on
[00:45:45] Ali
[00:45:46] same question
[00:45:47] yes
[00:45:47] it was
[00:45:48] Megadeth
[00:45:49] rest in peace
[00:45:50] oh that's a great
[00:45:51] record
[00:45:51] it was a cassette
[00:45:54] I liked it
[00:45:54] because it was
[00:45:55] it was an alien
[00:45:56] on the cover
[00:45:57] with the earth
[00:45:57] I'm like
[00:45:58] that looks really
[00:45:58] cool
[00:45:59] I've never heard
[00:45:59] of Megadeth
[00:46:00] until then
[00:46:00] but I was always
[00:46:01] into like
[00:46:02] Metallica
[00:46:02] and like you know
[00:46:03] rock and roll
[00:46:04] and metal
[00:46:04] you should go
[00:46:04] look at my
[00:46:05] bathroom
[00:46:05] I will
[00:46:07] but it was
[00:46:07] rest in peace
[00:46:09] that was great
[00:46:10] that's a great
[00:46:10] record
[00:46:11] yeah
[00:46:12] the first one
[00:46:13] that comes to
[00:46:13] mind
[00:46:14] I forget
[00:46:15] which one it
[00:46:16] was but it
[00:46:16] was an
[00:46:16] Evanescence CD
[00:46:17] the one that
[00:46:18] has going under
[00:46:19] and bring me
[00:46:20] to life
[00:46:21] yeah I was
[00:46:22] all about
[00:46:22] Amy Lee
[00:46:23] I love her
[00:46:23] voice
[00:46:24] she's incredible
[00:46:25] Amy
[00:46:26] Amy Lee
[00:46:26] yeah
[00:46:27] or is her
[00:46:28] name
[00:46:28] right
[00:46:28] I think
[00:46:29] they're back
[00:46:30] together
[00:46:30] now
[00:46:30] oh yeah
[00:46:31] they just
[00:46:31] performed at
[00:46:32] the Canadian
[00:46:32] Tire Center
[00:46:33] wow
[00:46:33] like last
[00:46:34] month
[00:46:35] yeah
[00:46:36] sometimes we
[00:46:36] got to get
[00:46:37] that aggression
[00:46:38] out
[00:46:38] when we're
[00:46:39] younger
[00:46:39] Evanescence
[00:46:40] was good
[00:46:40] remember that
[00:46:41] song My Immortal
[00:46:42] oh yeah
[00:46:42] oh yeah
[00:46:43] so good
[00:46:44] or call me
[00:46:45] when you're
[00:46:45] sober
[00:46:46] oh yeah
[00:46:47] I was like
[00:46:47] oh man
[00:46:47] who hurt you
[00:46:48] yeah
[00:46:48] I was an
[00:46:50] emo kid
[00:46:51] growing up
[00:46:51] that's for sure
[00:46:52] right
[00:46:53] okay
[00:46:53] next question
[00:46:55] same order
[00:46:56] first live
[00:46:57] concert you
[00:46:58] ever saw
[00:46:58] well that's
[00:47:00] just embarrassing
[00:47:00] for me
[00:47:01] I was a
[00:47:03] church kid
[00:47:03] growing up
[00:47:04] so yeah
[00:47:06] it was like
[00:47:07] I don't know
[00:47:08] DC talk
[00:47:09] or something
[00:47:10] like that
[00:47:10] okay
[00:47:11] nobody's gonna
[00:47:12] know that
[00:47:12] did you enjoy yourself
[00:47:13] did you buy some
[00:47:14] merch
[00:47:14] had a great time
[00:47:15] no I did not
[00:47:16] buy merch
[00:47:17] I was a child
[00:47:18] but there
[00:47:19] was some
[00:47:20] crowd surfing
[00:47:20] that's amazing
[00:47:21] what
[00:47:22] wow
[00:47:22] yeah
[00:47:23] I mean
[00:47:24] praise Jesus
[00:47:25] if you know
[00:47:25] you know
[00:47:26] praise Jesus
[00:47:28] mine's even
[00:47:29] more embarrassing
[00:47:29] my first concert
[00:47:31] was Ricky Martin
[00:47:32] hey
[00:47:33] that's alright
[00:47:35] I was like
[00:47:36] nine years old
[00:47:37] or ten years old
[00:47:37] yeah
[00:47:38] it was in Turkey
[00:47:39] my stance
[00:47:40] is that there
[00:47:41] is no guilty
[00:47:42] pleasure music
[00:47:43] like what you like
[00:47:44] enjoy what you like
[00:47:45] you know
[00:47:45] Ricky Martin
[00:47:46] I bet she puts on
[00:47:47] a pretty good show
[00:47:47] he really did
[00:47:48] live in La Vida Loca
[00:47:49] I was on a chair
[00:47:50] dancing
[00:47:50] I remember that
[00:47:51] really well
[00:47:54] just to be clear
[00:47:55] I don't still
[00:47:56] like DC talk
[00:47:58] but you know
[00:47:59] what
[00:47:59] it's okay
[00:48:00] if you do
[00:48:02] Steph
[00:48:04] I'm kind of
[00:48:05] blanking
[00:48:05] but apparently
[00:48:06] when I was
[00:48:07] in my mom's
[00:48:07] womb
[00:48:08] we went to
[00:48:08] a Rod Stewart
[00:48:09] concert
[00:48:09] I don't know
[00:48:11] if that counts
[00:48:13] what's the first
[00:48:14] one you remember
[00:48:16] live
[00:48:17] that I remember
[00:48:19] um
[00:48:21] yeah
[00:48:22] I got nothing
[00:48:23] blanking
[00:48:24] we'll go with
[00:48:25] the Rod Stewart
[00:48:26] if something
[00:48:26] pops into your mind
[00:48:27] please feel
[00:48:28] free to blurt
[00:48:29] circle back
[00:48:31] um
[00:48:32] if
[00:48:33] Sugar Bomb
[00:48:34] could open
[00:48:34] for any band
[00:48:37] who would it be
[00:48:39] and that could be
[00:48:40] individual thoughts
[00:48:41] or as a collective
[00:48:42] ooh
[00:48:43] uh
[00:48:43] I got one
[00:48:45] for this one
[00:48:45] Emil and the Sniffers
[00:48:46] I was just
[00:48:46] gonna say that
[00:48:47] honestly
[00:48:48] yeah
[00:48:49] that'd be sick
[00:48:50] that would be awesome
[00:48:51] all in agreement
[00:48:52] yeah
[00:48:52] definitely
[00:48:53] very good
[00:48:53] it's decided
[00:48:54] yeah
[00:48:56] well you didn't
[00:48:57] specify like
[00:48:58] living or dead
[00:48:59] but
[00:48:59] oh hey
[00:49:00] we'll go with that
[00:49:00] yeah
[00:49:01] so we can open
[00:49:02] for them
[00:49:03] you never know
[00:49:04] this is like
[00:49:05] you know
[00:49:05] it's a goal
[00:49:06] it's an attainable goal
[00:49:07] it's all fantasy booking
[00:49:08] you know what I mean
[00:49:08] so it's just like
[00:49:09] who cares
[00:49:10] they might hear this
[00:49:10] I'm being like
[00:49:11] hey open for us
[00:49:12] I think I remember
[00:49:13] my first memory
[00:49:14] it was adjacent
[00:49:15] to the stage
[00:49:15] with my mom
[00:49:16] Barenaked Ladies
[00:49:17] there you go
[00:49:18] that is some fine
[00:49:19] Canadian music
[00:49:21] there's nothing wrong
[00:49:22] with the Barenaked Ladies
[00:49:24] my band
[00:49:25] we used to cover that song
[00:49:26] What a Good Boy
[00:49:27] remember that song
[00:49:27] when I was born
[00:49:29] they looked at me
[00:49:30] and said
[00:49:30] what a good boy
[00:49:31] oh yes
[00:49:32] but we played it
[00:49:33] like we played
[00:49:33] like 100 miles an hour
[00:49:34] when I was born
[00:49:35] yeah
[00:49:35] yep
[00:49:36] yeah
[00:49:36] okay
[00:49:38] next question
[00:49:40] is there a song
[00:49:42] for each of you
[00:49:42] that if it randomly
[00:49:43] popped up on the radio
[00:49:44] you could sing
[00:49:46] every word of it
[00:49:48] it'd be better
[00:49:49] if you asked
[00:49:49] what song
[00:49:50] can't you sing
[00:49:52] well name one then
[00:49:53] how about name one
[00:49:57] I don't know
[00:49:58] what do you mean
[00:50:00] name a song
[00:50:01] on the radio
[00:50:02] say if
[00:50:02] Limp Bizkit Break
[00:50:03] stuff came on the radio
[00:50:04] could you sing it
[00:50:05] from cover to cover
[00:50:06] probably not
[00:50:07] Limp Bizkit
[00:50:07] no sorry
[00:50:08] okay
[00:50:09] I have a couple
[00:50:10] I think
[00:50:10] most of like
[00:50:11] the Red Hot Chili Peppers
[00:50:12] and also
[00:50:14] Opeth Harvest
[00:50:15] all day
[00:50:15] I can sing that
[00:50:16] cool
[00:50:17] everywhere
[00:50:21] well
[00:50:21] I don't know
[00:50:22] how often
[00:50:23] this is played
[00:50:23] on the radio
[00:50:24] but White Rabbit
[00:50:25] Jefferson Airplane
[00:50:26] there you go
[00:50:27] yeah
[00:50:27] that's a solid song
[00:50:29] start to end
[00:50:29] all the lyrics
[00:50:31] oh yeah
[00:50:31] especially the
[00:50:33] drum parts
[00:50:33] also
[00:50:35] also
[00:50:36] the Bad Touch
[00:50:37] by the Bloodhound
[00:50:38] oh yeah
[00:50:39] you know what
[00:50:40] I gotta get
[00:50:41] if Santeria
[00:50:41] came on the radio
[00:50:42] by Sublime
[00:50:43] I hate to admit it
[00:50:45] but yes
[00:50:45] like I get dirty
[00:50:46] with that one too
[00:50:47] 100%
[00:50:48] it's like I wrote it
[00:50:50] it's like I'm talking
[00:50:51] to someone
[00:50:51] yeah yeah
[00:50:52] punk ass
[00:50:53] everyone knows it
[00:50:54] like whether you admit
[00:50:55] it or not
[00:50:56] that is my karaoke song
[00:50:57] every time I do karaoke
[00:50:58] I have to sing that song
[00:51:00] I do New York
[00:51:01] by Frank Sinatra
[00:51:02] New York
[00:51:04] it's really really easy
[00:51:06] it's all kind of monotone
[00:51:07] but it's just kind of like
[00:51:08] hey
[00:51:08] oh you gotta get
[00:51:09] the vibrato
[00:51:11] the vibrato
[00:51:12] for sure
[00:51:13] I wanna hear that
[00:51:13] yeah right
[00:51:14] have you ever asked
[00:51:16] anyone for an autograph
[00:51:19] okay I've got a real
[00:51:21] embarrassing story here
[00:51:24] I was in love with
[00:51:25] Hanson
[00:51:26] nice
[00:51:27] as a child
[00:51:27] who isn't
[00:51:28] and I met them
[00:51:30] probably about
[00:51:32] 10 years ago
[00:51:33] VIP
[00:51:34] they're like older
[00:51:35] Hanson
[00:51:36] VIP backstage
[00:51:37] and
[00:51:39] yeah
[00:51:40] got an autograph
[00:51:41] thank you so much
[00:51:42] okay
[00:51:43] anyone else
[00:51:44] for me was
[00:51:46] do you still have it
[00:51:47] yeah
[00:51:47] nice
[00:51:48] what did you get them to sign
[00:51:50] well just a poster
[00:51:52] okay
[00:51:52] yeah
[00:51:53] I didn't say
[00:51:53] well not Hanson
[00:51:54] sorry not my tits
[00:51:56] it was
[00:51:57] I
[00:51:58] I was helping
[00:52:00] Christina put on a show
[00:52:01] with augury
[00:52:01] aborted
[00:52:02] insurrection
[00:52:04] and accursed spawn
[00:52:05] it was like
[00:52:06] some of them
[00:52:07] were my friends
[00:52:07] but
[00:52:08] I wanted everyone
[00:52:09] to just sign that poster
[00:52:10] because I was
[00:52:11] helping Christina
[00:52:12] with the doors
[00:52:12] and everything
[00:52:13] and I wanted that memory
[00:52:14] so I got every band
[00:52:15] to sign it
[00:52:16] and that was the first time
[00:52:17] I asked people
[00:52:18] to like
[00:52:19] for an autograph
[00:52:20] cool
[00:52:22] yeah
[00:52:23] I got nothing
[00:52:24] I guess
[00:52:25] yeah
[00:52:25] in
[00:52:26] in the two years
[00:52:28] that Sugarbomb
[00:52:29] has been
[00:52:29] playing
[00:52:31] and
[00:52:32] well touring
[00:52:33] to Toronto
[00:52:33] has anyone ever
[00:52:34] asked you
[00:52:34] for an autograph
[00:52:35] yeah actually
[00:52:36] at our
[00:52:37] yeah
[00:52:37] yeah
[00:52:39] and we
[00:52:41] we had to sign
[00:52:42] a shirt
[00:52:42] right
[00:52:43] we signed
[00:52:43] a shirt
[00:52:44] we got asked
[00:52:44] to sign a shirt
[00:52:45] for a fan
[00:52:47] and
[00:52:48] actually
[00:52:48] I got asked
[00:52:49] to kiss
[00:52:50] the tape
[00:52:51] oh yeah
[00:52:52] we have
[00:52:53] we have cassettes
[00:52:54] so someone
[00:52:55] asked me to
[00:52:55] kiss the inside
[00:52:57] of the cassette
[00:52:58] nice
[00:52:58] and yeah
[00:52:59] so I like
[00:53:00] redid my lipstick
[00:53:01] you know
[00:53:01] because you gotta
[00:53:02] make sure it's fresh
[00:53:03] and then I kissed it
[00:53:04] and it was actually
[00:53:05] really cool
[00:53:05] nice
[00:53:06] felt really cool there
[00:53:08] um
[00:53:08] I've been asked
[00:53:09] for an autograph
[00:53:10] at certain points
[00:53:11] but I always think
[00:53:12] they're just
[00:53:12] they're just humoring me
[00:53:13] they're just
[00:53:13] I'm always like
[00:53:14] 100%
[00:53:15] come on
[00:53:16] I know
[00:53:16] that's how I feel too
[00:53:18] I love it
[00:53:18] it's fun
[00:53:18] it's all fun
[00:53:19] right
[00:53:20] yeah
[00:53:20] it's all for fun
[00:53:21] I don't know why
[00:53:21] you're asking
[00:53:21] I'll do it
[00:53:22] yeah
[00:53:22] it's so weird
[00:53:23] it's weird
[00:53:24] it's so weird
[00:53:25] yeah
[00:53:25] it's like really
[00:53:26] no I think
[00:53:27] it's like
[00:53:27] I know
[00:53:28] um okay
[00:53:29] uh next question
[00:53:32] um if you could
[00:53:33] take a time machine
[00:53:34] back to any
[00:53:35] musical
[00:53:36] event in history
[00:53:39] that you weren't
[00:53:40] at
[00:53:41] I get a lot of
[00:53:41] people say
[00:53:42] oh I'll just go back
[00:53:43] to that show I played
[00:53:44] when I know
[00:53:44] no no
[00:53:44] that you weren't
[00:53:45] at
[00:53:46] but like
[00:53:47] isn't everyone
[00:53:49] expecting you to say
[00:53:50] Woodstock
[00:53:50] yeah
[00:53:51] I mean yeah
[00:53:52] well the number one
[00:53:54] the number one answer
[00:53:55] that I've had in this
[00:53:56] question is Woodstock
[00:53:57] 99 when Limp Bizkit
[00:53:59] did the crazy
[00:54:00] oh yeah
[00:54:00] do you love Limp Bizkit
[00:54:02] no
[00:54:03] no it's just
[00:54:04] I guess it's just
[00:54:04] a train of thought
[00:54:05] I don't know
[00:54:05] that was actually
[00:54:06] another one of my
[00:54:06] first cassettes
[00:54:08] I still have it
[00:54:09] three dollar bill
[00:54:09] y'all
[00:54:10] no what was
[00:54:10] it's a chop
[00:54:11] with starfish
[00:54:13] something
[00:54:13] something
[00:54:14] I did
[00:54:15] I did see
[00:54:15] I was cruising
[00:54:17] through the internet
[00:54:17] today and I did
[00:54:18] see some Limp Bizkit
[00:54:19] and a reel
[00:54:20] and Fred Durst
[00:54:22] was walking around
[00:54:22] with a big curly wig
[00:54:23] on and I'm like
[00:54:24] what is happening
[00:54:24] what is going on there
[00:54:25] anyway
[00:54:27] but uh
[00:54:27] what was the question
[00:54:29] oh yeah
[00:54:29] I asked you
[00:54:30] a musical event
[00:54:31] in history
[00:54:31] that you
[00:54:32] you would take
[00:54:32] a time machine
[00:54:33] back to
[00:54:33] I think it would
[00:54:34] be any Woodstock
[00:54:35] for me
[00:54:35] yeah I was
[00:54:36] just experiencing
[00:54:37] that kind of a
[00:54:38] yeah or like
[00:54:39] the 60s in general
[00:54:40] because there was
[00:54:41] so much going on
[00:54:42] like yeah
[00:54:44] psychedelics
[00:54:44] love
[00:54:45] anti-war
[00:54:45] great music
[00:54:47] can't go wrong
[00:54:48] shag rug
[00:54:49] yeah
[00:54:50] also walk in
[00:54:51] for me
[00:54:52] like I really
[00:54:53] wanted to go to
[00:54:54] walk in
[00:54:55] like back in
[00:54:56] like 2008
[00:54:57] now it's like
[00:54:58] newer bands
[00:54:59] and everything
[00:54:59] but back then
[00:55:00] it was more
[00:55:00] like the metal
[00:55:00] bands that I was
[00:55:01] looking forward
[00:55:02] to seeing
[00:55:02] and they were
[00:55:03] touring more
[00:55:04] and uh
[00:55:05] yeah
[00:55:05] missed opportunities
[00:55:06] there
[00:55:06] cool
[00:55:08] a couple more
[00:55:10] questions
[00:55:10] what is your
[00:55:11] favorite song
[00:55:13] today
[00:55:15] Katie
[00:55:19] not yesterday
[00:55:20] not tomorrow
[00:55:23] well okay
[00:55:24] I love
[00:55:25] the band
[00:55:26] always
[00:55:26] they're from
[00:55:27] Toronto
[00:55:28] ooh
[00:55:28] Toronto
[00:55:30] uh
[00:55:34] really like
[00:55:35] their new
[00:55:35] album
[00:55:36] is so sick
[00:55:37] saved by a
[00:55:38] waif
[00:55:38] is a great
[00:55:39] song
[00:55:40] Belinda
[00:55:41] says
[00:55:41] oh there's
[00:55:42] so many good
[00:55:43] songs on their
[00:55:43] new album
[00:55:44] so uh
[00:55:44] whatever
[00:55:45] anything by
[00:55:46] always
[00:55:47] my favorite
[00:55:48] song has been
[00:55:49] the same
[00:55:49] for 20
[00:55:50] years almost
[00:55:51] it's Harvest
[00:55:52] by Opeth
[00:55:53] uh
[00:55:55] I guess I
[00:55:56] bounce between
[00:55:57] but I'll
[00:55:58] I'll go with
[00:55:59] uh
[00:55:59] what like
[00:56:00] um
[00:56:00] like
[00:56:00] Shays Long
[00:56:01] Shays Long
[00:56:02] Shays Long
[00:56:03] Shays Long
[00:56:04] whatever that
[00:56:04] song's called
[00:56:05] all right
[00:56:05] that works
[00:56:06] for me
[00:56:07] yeah
[00:56:07] okay
[00:56:07] last question
[00:56:08] I guess it's
[00:56:09] for everybody
[00:56:10] who is
[00:56:11] Sugarbomb
[00:56:13] not punk
[00:56:14] apparently
[00:56:17] I think our
[00:56:18] bio says
[00:56:19] you know
[00:56:19] the four friends
[00:56:20] from Ottawa
[00:56:20] that like to
[00:56:21] get wild
[00:56:21] and crazy
[00:56:22] I think that
[00:56:23] shows in our
[00:56:23] music too
[00:56:24] we just
[00:56:24] we go from
[00:56:25] slow to
[00:56:26] really fast
[00:56:27] to different
[00:56:29] kind of
[00:56:29] dynamic
[00:56:30] within the
[00:56:30] songs
[00:56:31] yeah
[00:56:31] we're
[00:56:31] whatever
[00:56:32] you
[00:56:33] we're
[00:56:33] just
[00:56:33] fun
[00:56:34] you know
[00:56:36] sweet
[00:56:36] and explosive
[00:56:37] yeah
[00:56:38] yeah
[00:56:40] explosive
[00:56:41] cool
[00:56:41] um
[00:56:42] well
[00:56:43] what more
[00:56:44] can be said
[00:56:44] thank you so
[00:56:45] much for coming
[00:56:46] on
[00:56:46] ego and vice
[00:56:47] it's been a
[00:56:47] pleasure having
[00:56:48] you
[00:56:48] thank you for
[00:56:49] having us
[00:56:49] no problem
[00:56:50] I wish you
[00:56:50] nothing but
[00:56:51] the best
[00:56:51] and uh
[00:56:52] continued
[00:56:53] success
[00:56:53] and fun
[00:56:54] and crazy
[00:56:54] times
[00:56:55] thank you
[00:56:55] uh
[00:56:56] see you next
[00:56:57] time
[00:56:57] kirk
[00:56:58] yes
[00:56:58] one last
[00:56:59] shout out
[00:56:59] to kirk
[00:57:00] so thank
[00:57:01] you and
[00:57:01] have a
[00:57:02] have a
[00:57:02] great
[00:57:02] 2025
[00:57:03] thank you
[00:57:04] so much
[00:57:05] thank you
[00:57:06] hey that
[00:59:19] is the
[00:59:20] end of
[00:59:21] episode
[00:59:21] 148
[00:59:22] i'd like
[00:59:22] to thank
[00:59:23] sugar bomb
[00:59:23] for coming
[00:59:24] into
[00:59:24] south hood
[00:59:25] studio
[00:59:26] and uh
[00:59:27] sharing their
[00:59:27] uh
[00:59:28] story and
[00:59:28] their time
[00:59:29] i always
[00:59:30] appreciate it
[00:59:30] and uh
[00:59:31] that was a lot
[00:59:32] of fun
[00:59:32] good luck
[00:59:33] with everything
[00:59:34] in the future
[00:59:35] if you want
[00:59:36] to reach me
[00:59:36] you can
[00:59:37] always
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[00:59:38] of me
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[01:00:03] only one
[01:00:04] um
[01:00:05] enjoy the
[01:00:06] snow
[01:00:06] because it's
[01:00:07] coming down
[01:00:09] and as i
[01:00:10] always say
[01:00:12] remember
[01:00:14] wherever you
[01:00:14] go
[01:00:16] there you
[01:00:17] are
[01:00:18] see you next
[01:00:18] week
[01:00:19] you've got a
[01:00:19] real attitude
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[01:00:20] with