Steve & The Stab Wounds are 3 piece band from Ottawa. Established in 2022, the band consists of Dr. Tux Stevens Stabwound on guitar and vocals. John Preacher on bass and drummer Professor Rhonda Stabwound. STSW have played numerous live shows at most of Ottawa's best venues. Never taking themselves too seriously and enjoying the ride that come with writing and performing music. Don't overthink it, just play what feels good. Great advice. Keep an eye out in 2025 for Steve & The Stabwounds.
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[00:00:47] You've got a real attitude problem McFly, you're a slacker.
[00:00:50] Mike, this is Ego and Vice, Episode 146. Season 8 is coming to an abrupt end soon. I have about, I don't know, eight more episodes? Six more episodes? Something like that. And then we're shutting her down!
[00:02:06] I know I haven't been too, um, I haven't been as active this latter half of the season, but I've been so busy.
[00:02:13] Uh, with the Riptides now, um, we're in full, full on go mode with band practice and the record's gonna drop in the new year and we have video prep.
[00:02:24] And just getting stuff ready for the release of everything with our, with our label.
[00:02:29] But anyway, other than that, I have a life. Uh, I have my, uh, personal life, my work life, my music life.
[00:02:37] And you know what?
[00:02:39] I just need some peace and quiet once in a while. You know what I mean?
[00:02:42] I can't, I can't pump out, uh, an episode a week.
[00:02:46] Because for one thing, it's just like, it's too much fucking content.
[00:02:50] Another thing is, is I just need time.
[00:02:53] You know, to put out good shit.
[00:02:56] Not just the fucking same shit.
[00:03:01] Anyway, today on the podcast, I have a, uh, a fucking cool band.
[00:03:06] Uh, they're called Steve and the Stab Wounds.
[00:03:10] Hard to ignore with a name like that.
[00:03:12] I had Tux, I had John, I had Rhonda in Southwood's studio.
[00:03:16] We talk all things Steve and the Stab Wounds.
[00:03:19] Gonna play a track from the band.
[00:03:22] Then we're gonna come back with the guys.
[00:03:25] So, stick around.
[00:03:26] This is Ego and Vice, episode 146.
[00:03:29] Is Ego and Vice, this is episode 146.
[00:07:14] As promised in the intro, today in Southwood's studio,
[00:07:17] I have Steve and the Stab Wounds.
[00:07:20] Sitting beside me, I have Dr. Tux, Steve and Stabwood.
[00:07:24] Stab Wounds.
[00:07:24] Amen, baby.
[00:07:25] Steven the Stab Wounds, baby.
[00:07:26] He's a vocalist and guitarist.
[00:07:28] I have the bassist, John Preacher.
[00:07:30] John Preacher right here.
[00:07:31] No Stab Wounds.
[00:07:32] No Stab Wounds.
[00:07:33] And on drums, we have Professor Rhonda Stabwood.
[00:07:36] Rhonda.
[00:07:38] Welcome, guys.
[00:07:38] Thank you so much for coming out.
[00:07:40] Thank you.
[00:07:40] Amen, dude.
[00:07:41] Thanks for having us.
[00:07:41] On my extensive search through the Ottawa music scene,
[00:07:44] which I try to do as much as I can,
[00:07:47] and I try to stay kind of involved.
[00:07:48] I don't go out as much as I used to.
[00:07:50] Yeah, we're getting old, bro.
[00:07:51] Yeah, I don't go out as much as I used to,
[00:07:53] so I live vicariously through the bands I have on
[00:07:55] and the friends of the bands are the bands
[00:07:57] that have the friends of the bands, right?
[00:07:58] Amen, dude, yeah.
[00:07:59] So down the row, after eight years of doing this,
[00:08:02] I'm constantly looking for new bands,
[00:08:03] so I love when something like Steve and the Stab Wounds
[00:08:06] just jumps out of the page
[00:08:07] because it's like, what's this?
[00:08:08] Yeah, right, yeah.
[00:08:09] And then it's funny, eh,
[00:08:10] because Ottawa's like a smaller music scene,
[00:08:12] so I look on like an Instagram or whatever,
[00:08:14] and it's like 101 mutual friends.
[00:08:17] Yeah, of course, yeah.
[00:08:18] We all know the same people, yeah.
[00:08:19] This is an absolute no-brainer.
[00:08:20] So I called you guys up,
[00:08:22] or I got a hold of you guys,
[00:08:23] and I'm really happy that you came out.
[00:08:25] Before we get started,
[00:08:26] let's just do kind of a round table.
[00:08:28] Yeah, yeah.
[00:08:28] I know I introduced you,
[00:08:29] but this is like one of those awkward business lunches
[00:08:32] where it's like they get the ball thrown at you.
[00:08:34] Uh-huh.
[00:08:35] Introduce yourself, what you do,
[00:08:36] and I have a question for everybody.
[00:08:40] Is cereal a soup?
[00:08:42] Why?
[00:08:42] Or why not?
[00:08:44] Go.
[00:08:44] Oh, that'd be good.
[00:08:44] Okay, I'm Tux.
[00:08:46] I'm the singer and the guitar player,
[00:08:48] and is cereal soup?
[00:08:49] It's like...
[00:08:52] No, because you don't reduce it,
[00:08:54] but I see where you're going with it.
[00:08:55] You know what I mean?
[00:08:56] Okay.
[00:08:56] Yeah, you don't reduce your cereal.
[00:08:58] Very good.
[00:09:01] John Friedrich right here.
[00:09:03] Cereal soup.
[00:09:04] To be honest,
[00:09:04] I don't even know what that really is.
[00:09:06] He's asking if it's like,
[00:09:08] is cereal considered soup?
[00:09:10] Like, you know how they're like,
[00:09:10] is tomato a vegetable?
[00:09:12] No.
[00:09:12] No, definitely not.
[00:09:13] Honestly, I don't even know what is cereal
[00:09:15] until I came to Canada when I was 18.
[00:09:17] Yeah, right, yeah.
[00:09:18] You're like, what is...
[00:09:18] Yeah, he's like fuck more place.
[00:09:20] Yeah, so definitely not.
[00:09:22] It's rice and water.
[00:09:24] Right.
[00:09:27] Rhonda,
[00:09:28] I play drums and guitar,
[00:09:32] and I would say soup and cereal
[00:09:36] are not the same because soup is hot.
[00:09:38] Yeah.
[00:09:38] Cereal's cold.
[00:09:39] I like where you're going, Rhonda.
[00:09:40] I like the question.
[00:09:41] There's no right or wrong answer
[00:09:42] to these questions.
[00:09:43] They're merely icebreakers is all they are.
[00:09:46] So I think cereal,
[00:09:47] I'm going to say,
[00:09:48] who cares?
[00:09:49] Yeah, it's soup-esque.
[00:09:50] Yeah.
[00:09:51] It's got soup-esque qualities.
[00:09:52] It's bowl food.
[00:09:53] I believe it's wet.
[00:09:53] It's wet, yeah.
[00:09:54] I'm a strong believer in bowl food.
[00:09:56] Anything that comes out of a bowl,
[00:09:57] I'm good.
[00:09:58] Yeah.
[00:10:00] Anything other than a spoon
[00:10:01] for like scooping,
[00:10:02] I'm done.
[00:10:03] Yeah.
[00:10:03] You're like, I'm good.
[00:10:04] So let's talk about Steve and the stab wounds.
[00:10:07] You're based out of Ottawa?
[00:10:09] Yeah, me and him live in like Castleman.
[00:10:11] The Castleman.
[00:10:12] Do you guys golf?
[00:10:13] Nah.
[00:10:14] You have a golf course,
[00:10:15] like right in your backyard.
[00:10:15] I golfed once
[00:10:16] for the very first time this year.
[00:10:18] How bad did you go?
[00:10:19] Thank you.
[00:10:19] I did really good.
[00:10:20] Did you really?
[00:10:21] Oh, that's good.
[00:10:21] I like mini putt.
[00:10:22] Yeah, mini putt.
[00:10:23] Especially when I go in the dark ones.
[00:10:24] Okay.
[00:10:24] I have a friend that grew up in Castleman
[00:10:26] and he's like an amazing golfer
[00:10:28] because it was literally in his backyard.
[00:10:31] But anyway.
[00:10:31] He lives like six minutes away from you,
[00:10:33] John Preacher.
[00:10:34] He's like from me?
[00:10:35] Same neighborhood, yeah.
[00:10:35] Oh, cool.
[00:10:36] We all met him.
[00:10:37] The NWM gas station is on the club.
[00:10:39] Okay.
[00:10:40] I call it South Hood.
[00:10:42] Yeah, we're in the South Hood.
[00:10:43] Yeah, the South side, baby.
[00:10:44] Yeah, South Hood.
[00:10:45] Because this is what I call my studio.
[00:10:49] I call it South Hood Studio.
[00:10:50] Yeah.
[00:10:51] South Hood.
[00:10:51] Yeah.
[00:10:52] You're a South Hoodie.
[00:10:53] Yeah, you're a straight South Hoodie.
[00:10:54] I respect that.
[00:10:55] I like that.
[00:10:56] Castleman, yeah, I guess it's okay.
[00:10:57] Yeah.
[00:10:58] Castleman sucks, bro.
[00:10:59] Close enough.
[00:10:59] So, Stephen the Staboons.
[00:11:00] As far as I could look back,
[00:11:02] and usually it's just through Spotify or music releases,
[00:11:05] the first thing that I saw was released in June of 2022.
[00:11:10] It was actually a 10-song full album.
[00:11:13] Yeah, yeah.
[00:11:13] Full record.
[00:11:14] It was called Spaghetti Strap.
[00:11:16] Is that near the beginning of the band?
[00:11:19] Yeah, pretty much.
[00:11:20] So, how did it go down?
[00:11:22] I think my wife put out a post on Facebook saying that I wanted to find some dudes to jam with.
[00:11:28] Rhonda came over.
[00:11:29] Me and Rhonda started jamming.
[00:11:30] When was that, Rhonda?
[00:11:31] May?
[00:11:32] It would have been February.
[00:11:34] February, yeah.
[00:11:34] Of 2022?
[00:11:35] Of 2022, yeah.
[00:11:36] Yeah.
[00:11:37] So, then we started jamming.
[00:11:38] And we used to like...
[00:11:39] So, I was like...
[00:11:40] I moved up from Kingston, right?
[00:11:42] And then my buddy, Dix, shout out Dix, Staboon, retired.
[00:11:47] He would like...
[00:11:48] I would like send him like little things or little clips or like, you know, like send me like guitar or whatever, right?
[00:11:52] So, then he would send me up guitar files and me and Rhonda would like jam out the drums and then write songs like that.
[00:11:56] So, there's some of his songs on there too.
[00:11:58] Cool.
[00:11:59] But yeah, it was good stuff.
[00:12:00] From Kingston to Castleman.
[00:12:04] I know.
[00:12:05] What's next?
[00:12:06] Queensville?
[00:12:06] Yeah, we're going to Queensville, baby.
[00:12:07] Okay, very good.
[00:12:08] Yeah.
[00:12:09] Is this your first band ever?
[00:12:11] No, not me.
[00:12:12] Okay.
[00:12:12] For me, it is.
[00:12:14] Yeah.
[00:12:14] Looking forward to it.
[00:12:15] Yeah, then it started making a difference.
[00:12:17] But all my music is from here.
[00:12:20] My music history is like a piece of blank paper pretty much.
[00:12:23] Yeah.
[00:12:24] Okay.
[00:12:25] We used to have like skate punk bands and shit back in the day called like fucking...
[00:12:29] What was it called?
[00:12:30] Like Skate Wiser and fucking all that shit.
[00:12:32] Like me and my buddy back in Kingston and shit like that.
[00:12:35] And then me and Rhonda are both...
[00:12:36] We're all in like second bands too.
[00:12:38] Me and him are in like a metal band together and Rhonda's in like a doom band too.
[00:12:41] Cool.
[00:12:42] What are those bands called?
[00:12:43] Little shout out.
[00:12:43] So there's...
[00:12:44] No, bro.
[00:12:45] It's all you, baby.
[00:12:46] Kane Rising.
[00:12:49] They're from the Ottawa area as well.
[00:12:51] Cool.
[00:12:52] And then we're in Blood Moon Occultation.
[00:12:54] Yeah.
[00:12:55] Well, those are podcasts to come, I'd imagine.
[00:12:58] Yeah, exactly.
[00:12:58] Cool.
[00:12:59] So Steve and the Staboons, you guys were a two-piece for a while.
[00:13:03] Two-piece forever.
[00:13:04] And two-piece forever.
[00:13:05] And you just started recently with them.
[00:13:08] Yeah.
[00:13:08] Yeah.
[00:13:09] It's more than a year now.
[00:13:10] Yeah, more than a year now probably.
[00:13:11] Did you perform as a two-piece?
[00:13:13] All the time.
[00:13:14] For everywhere.
[00:13:14] Yeah, for everywhere.
[00:13:15] So what was the...
[00:13:16] And we used to do crazy shit.
[00:13:18] Like I would like play bass and guitar and then switch to another guitar.
[00:13:21] Then he would play guitar and I'd go on the drums and fucking we did all kinds of shit.
[00:13:24] I find that, yeah, you know what?
[00:13:26] If you can make...
[00:13:27] Like I was in a...
[00:13:28] Well, I'm in a band called Goat.
[00:13:30] And I've been in a band called Goat since like 2011.
[00:13:32] And we're a three-piece.
[00:13:33] Yeah.
[00:13:33] And we brought in a fourth player and it was just like...
[00:13:37] Yeah, sometimes you don't need it.
[00:13:38] If you can get by as a two-piece or a three-piece, I think a three-piece is the sweet spot for music.
[00:13:43] Easy Top, Nirvana, you know what I'm saying?
[00:13:44] That's right.
[00:13:45] That's right.
[00:13:45] And it's just easier to herd the cats, as you put it.
[00:13:49] Yeah, you don't got to fucking, you know what I mean, get a million people doing the same thing.
[00:13:52] Right, right.
[00:13:52] I have a friend who's in a band called The Magic Machine.
[00:13:56] And at one point there was like nine of them.
[00:13:58] Yeah, Slipknot style.
[00:13:59] And I was just like...
[00:14:00] Big band.
[00:14:01] That's a lot.
[00:14:02] It's like I want to...
[00:14:02] Most of the time I want to strangle my two bandmates.
[00:14:06] I can't imagine...
[00:14:07] Where do you find the energy to strangle seven?
[00:14:09] Yeah, exactly.
[00:14:10] Yeah, where do you find the hands, bro?
[00:14:11] Right.
[00:14:12] Or the stabs.
[00:14:12] Especially when you're eating the soup, you know what I'm saying?
[00:14:15] The cereal soup.
[00:14:16] That's cool.
[00:14:17] So, I was looking here and you've played a lot of shows around Ottawa.
[00:14:21] Ottawa, The Dom, Targ, Avant-Garde, Live on Elgin, The Cuff.
[00:14:25] Yeah, them all.
[00:14:26] Yeah?
[00:14:27] Yeah.
[00:14:27] How did the very first show go with Steve and the Staboons?
[00:14:31] That was at Avant-Garde.
[00:14:32] I love that bar.
[00:14:33] Was it Avant-Garde or was it a...
[00:14:35] What's it going to call it?
[00:14:35] Or was it a Stray Dog?
[00:14:37] Oh, yeah, it was.
[00:14:38] Yeah, I was going to say.
[00:14:39] I think it's Stray Dog Brewing Company.
[00:14:40] Yeah.
[00:14:41] Yeah.
[00:14:42] It was good.
[00:14:43] Like, we just fucking...
[00:14:43] We jammed.
[00:14:44] We did like...
[00:14:45] What did we do?
[00:14:45] I think I found the set list the other day.
[00:14:47] We did like a couple of like punky songs and we had a couple acoustic songs and we just
[00:14:51] rocked it.
[00:14:52] We were definitely a little louder than I thought they thought we were going to be, but that's
[00:14:55] all right.
[00:14:55] Yeah.
[00:14:55] It didn't take us very long to come up with a list of songs to play.
[00:15:00] No.
[00:15:00] Yeah.
[00:15:00] How does the songwriting go in the formula of it?
[00:15:04] Does it just...
[00:15:04] We churn them out.
[00:15:05] Really fast.
[00:15:06] You just jam them out really fast.
[00:15:07] Yeah.
[00:15:08] Like, either one of us, like, I might have a riff and then I'll like make a demo at home,
[00:15:12] show the boys, or we're just like jamming.
[00:15:13] Like, the song we just released today, we were jamming and he just starts playing the chords.
[00:15:18] Like, and in three seconds I was just like, more than I can feel.
[00:15:21] And then boom, we just blasted off, recorded the whole fucking thing live without the verses
[00:15:24] and then I just punched in the verses after.
[00:15:26] Yeah, it was written in like 10 minutes.
[00:15:27] Yeah.
[00:15:28] Like, yeah.
[00:15:28] That's fun.
[00:15:29] Gotta get it.
[00:15:29] Same thing.
[00:15:30] We were just fucking around and then we were like, oh wait, da, da, da.
[00:15:32] You know what I mean?
[00:15:33] Yeah.
[00:15:33] Yeah, I find songwriting is kind of fascinating and I love talking about songwriting and I
[00:15:37] love...
[00:15:38] Yeah, I love writing songs.
[00:15:38] I sit down with people and they talk about these huge concepts.
[00:15:42] Elaborate, yeah.
[00:15:42] The way they do it and they write part of it here, then they put it away on a shelf
[00:15:45] for a month and they come back.
[00:15:47] Oh, I can't do that.
[00:15:47] And it's just like, yeah, it sounds great, but you guys write a song in 10 minutes.
[00:15:52] That sounds great too.
[00:15:53] Yeah, it's like whatever, different strokes for different folks, you know what I'm saying?
[00:15:56] But I'm like, I can't like, if I'm like making a song and then like put it away
[00:16:00] for a while, I'm not gonna be interested anymore.
[00:16:02] I'm gonna be on to the next thing, right?
[00:16:03] So it's like, just finish it right then and there.
[00:16:06] Yeah, so the songwriting is just, it's more collaborative.
[00:16:09] You don't, you're not someone who just hides away and writes something and then like you
[00:16:12] don't want it to be like that.
[00:16:13] You'd rather just kind of have fun with it.
[00:16:14] Yeah, I write fucking all the time, like, you know what I mean?
[00:16:15] And then I'll bring certain things and we'll use some of them, we won't use some of them.
[00:16:18] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:16:19] What about you?
[00:16:20] I'm not really a songwriter.
[00:16:22] We're working on it.
[00:16:22] I just like playing.
[00:16:23] I just like playing.
[00:16:24] Normally it's just like I'm playing something random and just, oh, it can turn to something.
[00:16:27] The best part is they're both better guitar players than me, you know what I mean?
[00:16:30] I'm the worst guitar player in the band.
[00:16:32] Yeah.
[00:16:32] I hear, well, I was listening to your stuff today and I did hear a lot of influence.
[00:16:36] It's funny that you just kind of said Nirvana because.
[00:16:38] Oh, yeah.
[00:16:39] I heard, I heard a little bit of bleach in it.
[00:16:41] Yeah, nice.
[00:16:42] I think.
[00:16:42] I like that.
[00:16:43] I'll take that.
[00:16:43] But I also heard some like riffy stuff.
[00:16:46] Yeah.
[00:16:46] Like you said you're in a metal, like metal bands.
[00:16:48] Yeah, I'm a big metal head dude.
[00:16:50] I heard, I heard riffs.
[00:16:51] It wasn't just kind of like grinding away on like a couple of chords.
[00:16:54] There's actually riffs and stuff in it.
[00:16:55] Thank you.
[00:16:55] I'll take that.
[00:16:56] Yeah.
[00:16:57] What, what actually is the, the direction for you guys?
[00:16:59] Like what are your lyrics about?
[00:17:01] Like you're with a name like Steve and the stab wounds.
[00:17:04] You must have not a message, but a theme maybe.
[00:17:07] I don't even really.
[00:17:08] I think like, it's like songs are more like individual.
[00:17:11] Cause we're not like, we don't really put ourselves in a box like that of like, oh,
[00:17:14] we're not going to like, if we want to write a country song, we'll write a country
[00:17:16] song.
[00:17:17] We want to write a heavy ass song.
[00:17:18] We'll write a heavy ass song.
[00:17:19] Like if we want to write acoustic that day, it doesn't matter.
[00:17:22] Like the message is there is no message.
[00:17:24] Yeah.
[00:17:24] It's like some songs have like, it's how do you feel today?
[00:17:27] Yeah, exactly.
[00:17:27] Like some songs might have like reasons behind it and some things might be more
[00:17:31] like, you know, like just like subconscious, whatever it's coming out or it just
[00:17:35] sounds fucking cool.
[00:17:36] You know what I mean?
[00:17:36] Yeah.
[00:17:36] I was going to say like writing, um, like jamming out a song in 10 minutes and
[00:17:40] saying, oh, that's cool.
[00:17:41] Let's do it.
[00:17:41] And then it comes together.
[00:17:43] Can you write lyrics in 10 minutes too?
[00:17:44] Oh yeah.
[00:17:45] Just less than 10 minutes.
[00:17:46] I think the process for that.
[00:17:49] That is just not overthinking anything too much.
[00:17:52] I was going to say, yeah.
[00:17:53] We don't really think in depth about stuff.
[00:17:55] It's like if a can, we want to sing about a can, we'll just sing about the can.
[00:17:59] Yeah.
[00:17:59] And like, you know, come up with cool things.
[00:18:01] Like the first line has to be cool.
[00:18:03] Cause if the first line is not cool, who gives a fuck?
[00:18:05] Yeah.
[00:18:05] You know what I mean?
[00:18:06] And it's like, nobody else cares about the rest of the words anyways, but like
[00:18:08] make them cool, make them slick, have some kind of like little, like, you know what
[00:18:12] I mean?
[00:18:12] Like I like rap and all that shit too.
[00:18:13] So it's like, you know, you sneak in a little one of these things or something, you know?
[00:18:16] That's like the don't bore us.
[00:18:18] Get to the chorus.
[00:18:19] Exactly.
[00:18:19] Yeah.
[00:18:20] Straight up.
[00:18:20] And make sure the chorus is catchy, bro.
[00:18:22] Like don't give them some bullshit.
[00:18:23] Like, Oh, blah, blah, blah.
[00:18:24] Whatever.
[00:18:25] Like, yeah, that's, that's fair.
[00:18:27] I have too many words.
[00:18:27] Like, you know what I mean?
[00:18:28] Like we're, we're pop style.
[00:18:29] Keep them, keep them like, you know, under 20 words or whatever.
[00:18:31] Well, the beauty of it is, is like, it's not the only song you're ever going to write.
[00:18:36] Right.
[00:18:36] So it's just like, I'll put that in the next one.
[00:18:39] I don't understand when people are like, they try to put all their ideas in one song.
[00:18:42] I'm like, then you only have one good song.
[00:18:44] Yeah.
[00:18:44] I'm like, dude, just write like 10 songs with all your ideas.
[00:18:47] Yeah.
[00:18:47] I think, I think if you can do that though, and I think for myself too, I'm a little hard
[00:18:52] on myself.
[00:18:52] Like I'll listen.
[00:18:53] I've, I've been writing songs for like 25 years and everything I do, it sounds like I've
[00:18:58] done before.
[00:18:59] Like, and I get sick of my own shit.
[00:19:01] It's like, that's, and I get mad.
[00:19:02] That's the same old shit.
[00:19:04] I hate my shit.
[00:19:04] You know, we love E minor though.
[00:19:06] So E minor die.
[00:19:07] Yeah, I guess so.
[00:19:08] Nice and nice and heavy.
[00:19:09] Yeah, exactly.
[00:19:11] Yeah.
[00:19:11] I get a little bit more sticky about it, I guess.
[00:19:13] And it's just like, I would love to just put shit out and stuff, but it's just like,
[00:19:17] I get these little waves of songwriting where I can be like, oh, that's cool.
[00:19:21] And I'll work on that song.
[00:19:22] And I'm like, oh, I got to get a whole bunch into this song because I know I'm not going
[00:19:25] to write another one for fucking three months.
[00:19:26] Yeah.
[00:19:27] So yeah.
[00:19:27] So I better make it good.
[00:19:28] I better get it all out.
[00:19:29] Yeah.
[00:19:29] Punch it in there now.
[00:19:30] But I demo stuff here.
[00:19:32] So I don't know.
[00:19:33] I have songs that I've been working on and demoing for like weeks, months even.
[00:19:38] And they're, they were probably done a month ago.
[00:19:41] Yeah.
[00:19:41] But I just keep going back like flipping.
[00:19:43] Yeah.
[00:19:43] Chinese democracy.
[00:19:44] Axl Rose, Chinese.
[00:19:45] Who worked on a record for like 30 years.
[00:19:48] It's like that one death leopard album.
[00:19:49] It took like 13 years.
[00:19:50] I'm like, boys, it was done fucking like in 10 years ago.
[00:19:53] Like what are you talking about?
[00:19:54] It's like, we need to take 13 years.
[00:19:55] We need that 37th layer of fucking.
[00:19:58] Yeah.
[00:19:58] He's like, he's like, let me get croon into the mic one more time.
[00:20:01] Yeah.
[00:20:02] It's like, I know I can hit that, that octave.
[00:20:04] Yeah.
[00:20:04] Yeah.
[00:20:05] Anyway.
[00:20:06] Okay.
[00:20:06] So after that, what came out?
[00:20:08] Next thing I saw was a single in 2023 called Why Don't You Ask Me?
[00:20:13] Yeah.
[00:20:13] Yeah.
[00:20:14] Classic.
[00:20:14] And that's, uh, that's about Trailer Park Boys.
[00:20:16] At least that line is.
[00:20:17] I love the Trailer Park Boys.
[00:20:18] Yeah, bro.
[00:20:19] He's like, go ahead, go ahead and ask me.
[00:20:21] Yeah.
[00:20:21] Falls over.
[00:20:22] Mr. Leahy, baby.
[00:20:23] Yeah.
[00:20:24] Jim Leahy.
[00:20:25] Oh, that's a shame.
[00:20:25] Rest in peace.
[00:20:26] Yeah.
[00:20:26] Rest in peace.
[00:20:26] Right?
[00:20:27] Yeah.
[00:20:27] The show just kind of, yeah, I never really came back from that.
[00:20:29] Eh?
[00:20:29] Like I know they did like some animated stuff.
[00:20:31] They're coming up with a new movie.
[00:20:32] Do you see that?
[00:20:32] I saw that.
[00:20:33] The Shit Rockets?
[00:20:34] Yeah.
[00:20:35] Or the, is that what it is?
[00:20:36] I don't know.
[00:20:36] It's Shit Somethings.
[00:20:37] Shit Cowboys or Bubbles and the Shit Bandits or whatever?
[00:20:40] Yeah.
[00:20:40] Maybe it's Shit Bandits.
[00:20:41] I don't know.
[00:20:41] Yeah.
[00:20:42] Something like that.
[00:20:42] Yeah.
[00:20:42] Because Bubbles always had a band.
[00:20:44] Well, sort of.
[00:20:44] They just played down at the Legion.
[00:20:46] Yeah.
[00:20:46] Down at the Legion.
[00:20:46] Or the bologna sandwiches.
[00:20:49] Then it was, uh, in May of 2023, it was another, uh, full record called The Dragon.
[00:20:56] Yeah.
[00:20:56] The Dragon.
[00:20:57] We play that one on every show.
[00:20:59] Okay.
[00:20:59] The best thing about The Dragon, it only has one lyric in the whole song.
[00:21:02] Oh, is it?
[00:21:03] We just repeat the lyric the same fucking time.
[00:21:05] Because me and Rhonda wrote that one again in like 10 minutes and I just said the one
[00:21:08] lyric and I couldn't come up with anything else and we just stuck with it.
[00:21:10] We were like, fuck it.
[00:21:11] You know what I mean?
[00:21:12] Mm-hmm.
[00:21:12] Yeah.
[00:21:12] That's cool.
[00:21:13] Uh, and of course the new single that you just released today.
[00:21:18] Today, baby.
[00:21:18] For the podcast.
[00:21:19] Which doesn't really make a lot of timeline sense because this will be released a week
[00:21:24] from today.
[00:21:24] Yeah.
[00:21:25] But that's all right.
[00:21:26] You'll have a week to, to, to, to marinate.
[00:21:28] To marinate.
[00:21:29] That's right.
[00:21:29] And, uh, how do you do record?
[00:21:31] What, uh, do you record your own stuff or do you?
[00:21:33] Yeah.
[00:21:33] We record my basement, bro.
[00:21:34] Yeah.
[00:21:35] That's the best way to do it.
[00:21:36] Right.
[00:21:36] It's just like more fun too.
[00:21:38] Yeah.
[00:21:38] I think there's still definitely a need for studios and if you're going to go, if you're
[00:21:42] going to go, go all out.
[00:21:43] Yeah.
[00:21:43] Um, but if you're just going to go and to someone who's kind of doing what I'm doing or
[00:21:47] what you're doing, just do it yourself.
[00:21:49] Just, yeah.
[00:21:49] And like, dude, we're a punk rock band.
[00:21:51] Yeah.
[00:21:51] How, how clean are we trying to sound?
[00:21:53] Yeah.
[00:21:53] I don't think, I don't think there's an audience out there because there's so much fricking
[00:21:56] content.
[00:21:57] There's so much music.
[00:21:58] I don't think there's like those audio people are just like, yeah, they're like that
[00:22:03] base could be a DB higher.
[00:22:04] Like as long as it doesn't sound like shit, which some of our old stuff does.
[00:22:07] Cause I didn't know what I was doing, but that's all right.
[00:22:09] Well, that's the beauty of it.
[00:22:10] Right.
[00:22:11] Yeah.
[00:22:11] Yeah.
[00:22:11] And if they don't like the record and if people like that shit, they're going to love
[00:22:15] this.
[00:22:15] They're going to love the new shit.
[00:22:16] Yeah, exactly.
[00:22:17] And if they, and if they say they love that song, but it sounds like shit, just play it
[00:22:19] live.
[00:22:20] Yeah, exactly.
[00:22:20] I'll come see us play it live.
[00:22:21] It's better live.
[00:22:22] And like, we're more hectic live anyways.
[00:22:24] Like, yeah, it doesn't, our recording doesn't do it justice.
[00:22:26] Yeah.
[00:22:26] Like, and I'll put like weird, like piano parts and shit that we can't play live and shit.
[00:22:30] But then when we play live, it's just straight up loud as we can.
[00:22:33] It's all about the show, the performance.
[00:22:34] Yeah.
[00:22:34] And the tequila shots.
[00:22:35] You know what I mean?
[00:22:36] Yeah, for sure, man.
[00:22:37] Well, it is, it is, I think live music is a performance art.
[00:22:40] Yeah.
[00:22:40] You know what I mean?
[00:22:41] You can stand there like a statue.
[00:22:42] Oh, dude.
[00:22:42] It's not very fun.
[00:22:43] No, it's true.
[00:22:44] Not a very good vehicle for your.
[00:22:46] Exactly.
[00:22:46] And nobody's going to get into it, bro.
[00:22:47] Like.
[00:22:48] Yeah.
[00:22:48] Do you guys work on your, on your stage shows or do you just kind of go up there and feel
[00:22:52] it?
[00:22:52] Uh, a little bit.
[00:22:53] Yeah.
[00:22:53] Like, uh, we, we, we have some like theatrics that we practice, but for the most part, it's
[00:23:00] just some gags.
[00:23:01] Yeah.
[00:23:02] Like we got like a fucking looper pedal where we play like 50 cent and like stuff like that
[00:23:05] on it.
[00:23:06] I've got old movie clips on it and shit like that.
[00:23:08] Yeah.
[00:23:08] So we don't have to talk bullshit in between switching like songs and shit.
[00:23:11] Yeah.
[00:23:11] That's cool.
[00:23:12] My, my whole thing was that I heard this long time ago where, um, a guy said to me,
[00:23:18] he's like, people work like a year on a record.
[00:23:20] Yeah.
[00:23:21] Put painstaking thought and all this shit into it.
[00:23:23] And then they practice for 15 minutes to perform it.
[00:23:26] Yeah.
[00:23:26] Yeah.
[00:23:26] You're like, what are you doing?
[00:23:27] Yeah.
[00:23:28] Yeah.
[00:23:28] But if you write songs in 10 minutes, all you need is maybe at least 11 minutes to plan
[00:23:32] your stage show and the rest is gravy.
[00:23:34] Yeah.
[00:23:35] Yeah.
[00:23:35] Cause like, we'll all like, we'll do certain things like where like, we'll hit the, like
[00:23:38] the looper pedal, the song we play and then we'll all walk out.
[00:23:40] Cause it's like, you know, nobody fucking cares.
[00:23:42] But it looks cool, bro.
[00:23:44] Like, I think, I think as long as the clubs are cool and you have, you sound good.
[00:23:48] Yeah.
[00:23:49] And I always thought, like head bang.
[00:23:51] Yeah.
[00:23:51] And I always, I always found that lights kind of make a show too.
[00:23:54] Yeah, bro.
[00:23:54] Especially when they like, they hit them right.
[00:23:56] And it's like a weird part.
[00:23:56] It's like.
[00:23:57] Yeah.
[00:23:58] And you're the old, the old, old smoky in the back.
[00:24:00] Uh, creeps up.
[00:24:02] The one, uh, the one that has a target.
[00:24:04] Yeah.
[00:24:04] They had a smoke machine too.
[00:24:06] Yeah.
[00:24:06] It was sick.
[00:24:07] The sound guy was the man, dude.
[00:24:09] Yeah.
[00:24:09] You don't need, uh, you don't need fucking lasers.
[00:24:11] You just need a good.
[00:24:12] Yeah.
[00:24:13] He was good.
[00:24:13] Yeah.
[00:24:14] The wizard.
[00:24:14] Yeah.
[00:24:15] The guy that works at fucking, uh, what's the, oh, spaceman.
[00:24:18] Oh, slow Tom.
[00:24:19] Yeah.
[00:24:19] Yeah.
[00:24:19] That's the dude.
[00:24:20] Yeah.
[00:24:20] He's sick, bro.
[00:24:21] Old friend of mine.
[00:24:22] Yeah.
[00:24:22] You know him?
[00:24:23] That's sick.
[00:24:23] Yeah.
[00:24:23] Yeah.
[00:24:24] Tom Stewart.
[00:24:24] Yeah.
[00:24:26] He was great.
[00:24:39] Yeah.
[00:24:40] Oh, dude.
[00:24:40] I got to check that out.
[00:24:41] Yeah.
[00:24:41] Back in like the, uh, probably the nineties into the early two thousands.
[00:24:46] I'm looking that up.
[00:24:46] You know, Dave's drum shop.
[00:24:48] Yeah.
[00:24:48] Of course.
[00:24:48] That was the drummer for furnace face with Tom from.
[00:24:52] No shit.
[00:24:52] Next time we go in round, it will be like furnace face.
[00:24:54] Yeah.
[00:24:55] Do it.
[00:24:55] Do it.
[00:24:56] Yeah.
[00:24:56] He, they're, they're big hit that actually was like, it was, wow, whatever.
[00:25:00] As big as it gets in Canada for an independent fucking band.
[00:25:03] Yeah.
[00:25:03] It was called just buy it.
[00:25:05] Just buy it.
[00:25:05] Okay.
[00:25:05] And it was all about, uh, selling out.
[00:25:08] Yeah.
[00:25:09] Yeah.
[00:25:09] Nice.
[00:25:09] It was cool, man.
[00:25:10] And Tom was a mad man.
[00:25:12] He was the bass player singer in the middle of the show.
[00:25:15] He put on, he used to put on these fucking costumes.
[00:25:17] He put on this big inflatable suit.
[00:25:19] Oh yeah.
[00:25:20] Sick.
[00:25:20] Yeah.
[00:25:20] You see him now and he's kind of, he's kind of got that old custodian school
[00:25:24] custodian.
[00:25:25] He wears the green dark green and slicks his hair back the old fucking drunk
[00:25:29] cowboy.
[00:25:29] But yeah, he used to be, he used to have dreads and he used to be a punk rocker.
[00:25:33] Sick, dude.
[00:25:33] Yeah.
[00:25:34] Now he's, now he's an old fart, but he's a good dude.
[00:25:35] Yeah.
[00:25:36] Really good dude.
[00:25:36] He's been on the podcast.
[00:25:37] He was on like, fuck God, it must've been six years ago.
[00:25:42] Yeah.
[00:25:42] Nice bro.
[00:25:43] Anyway, let's play a song.
[00:25:44] Um, why don't you, uh, introduce one of your songs and, uh, that was what we'll do.
[00:25:49] What do you want to do?
[00:25:50] Do you want to do the new one?
[00:25:51] That's up to you.
[00:25:52] It's like, let's do the new one.
[00:25:54] More than I can feel.
[00:25:55] Steven Stab wounds baby.
[00:25:56] Right here on ego and vice.
[00:28:59] So that was the new one.
[00:29:01] Fucking the debut, the debut, the debut, the debut.
[00:29:04] Yeah.
[00:29:05] Cool.
[00:29:06] Uh, more than I can feel.
[00:29:07] That was the 10 minutes on.
[00:29:09] Yeah.
[00:29:10] Yeah.
[00:29:10] Written in 10.
[00:29:11] Yeah.
[00:29:12] Oh yeah.
[00:29:12] Well, Hey man.
[00:29:14] Why not?
[00:29:14] Cause you literally just started playing like, what is it?
[00:29:17] E B C D or something like that.
[00:29:20] I can't remember.
[00:29:21] Like you just started playing it and I was like, all right, here we go.
[00:29:23] That's the next one.
[00:29:23] A B C D.
[00:29:24] Yeah.
[00:29:28] Um, is there a Steve?
[00:29:30] No, we got no Steve.
[00:29:31] Everyone calls me Steve, but we have no Steve.
[00:29:33] Yeah.
[00:29:33] I, I, I have a compulsion to call you Steve.
[00:29:36] Yeah.
[00:29:36] I know people always call me Steve or they think it's Steven.
[00:29:39] They'll be like, is it Steven?
[00:29:40] That's Alexi from Avantgarde.
[00:29:42] Yeah.
[00:29:42] Always calls me Steve.
[00:29:43] He's like, Hey Steven.
[00:29:44] Yeah.
[00:29:45] I'm like, and I just, I just go with it.
[00:29:46] I'm like, it's like an Alice Cooper thing.
[00:29:47] You know, you just got to go with it.
[00:29:48] Alex is awesome.
[00:29:49] Yeah.
[00:29:49] Dude, he's a legend, bro.
[00:29:50] Rhonda loves the coffee too.
[00:29:52] Yeah.
[00:29:52] Yeah.
[00:29:52] He gave us a mic stand one time too.
[00:29:54] He was like, Oh, I have extras.
[00:29:55] Just take it.
[00:29:56] I was like, thank you.
[00:29:57] He was, uh, I did some research on him.
[00:29:59] He's a chemical engineer.
[00:30:00] Yeah.
[00:30:01] He's like a really smart man.
[00:30:03] Yeah.
[00:30:03] No, he's the, he's a gangster, bro.
[00:30:05] Yeah.
[00:30:05] Yeah.
[00:30:06] He's, he's a good dude, man.
[00:30:07] He, he had to, he had to redo his like, um, citizenship or something or papers.
[00:30:13] And he asked me to sign his thing as a witness.
[00:30:17] I don't so much a witness, but someone who could vouch for you.
[00:30:21] Yeah.
[00:30:21] I thought I was, I was kind of like, really?
[00:30:23] Yeah.
[00:30:23] You're like, thanks dude.
[00:30:24] Yeah.
[00:30:25] Thanks man.
[00:30:25] I appreciate that.
[00:30:26] He's got that old Alexi Ashen or not Alexi Ashen.
[00:30:29] Oh, Vetchkin.
[00:30:29] Picture in the back too.
[00:30:30] Yeah.
[00:30:31] Alice Cooper.
[00:30:32] Yeah.
[00:30:32] Are you kidding me?
[00:30:34] I remember when, yeah, it's, it's a shame too.
[00:30:37] Cause I think it was when like Russia first started the war against Ukraine.
[00:30:40] When the window got broken.
[00:30:41] Yeah.
[00:30:41] Yeah.
[00:30:42] I know.
[00:30:42] I'm like, fuck.
[00:30:43] Yeah.
[00:30:44] Yeah.
[00:30:44] I'm like, if you know the dude, you know, he ain't like that.
[00:30:46] Like he's chill.
[00:30:47] Yeah.
[00:30:47] I mean, he, he helps the community.
[00:30:49] Oh dude.
[00:30:49] He does everything for those bands.
[00:30:51] And he's like a pillar too of, of like Ottawa bands, Ottawa venues have come and gone over
[00:30:56] the years.
[00:30:57] Yeah.
[00:30:57] Crazy.
[00:30:58] And through all the shit, Alex is still there.
[00:31:01] Still there.
[00:31:01] Still killing it.
[00:31:02] And some nights you'll go there and he's got three bands and there's fucking 10 people
[00:31:05] in the room and he's still fucking running around.
[00:31:07] Still doing his thing.
[00:31:08] Yeah.
[00:31:08] Oh, we played so many of those shows.
[00:31:10] Yeah.
[00:31:10] You know what I mean?
[00:31:10] Yeah.
[00:31:11] You know, like Ottawa's the Ottawa music scenes, you find some pockets of it that are just
[00:31:15] like sellouts, you know what I mean?
[00:31:17] Yeah.
[00:31:17] Depending on who's playing and the crowd it is.
[00:31:19] Yeah.
[00:31:19] But I always knew Ottawa and I'm not shitting on it by any means, but I always found it.
[00:31:24] It was like pulling teeth, getting people out sometimes.
[00:31:26] Oh, for sure.
[00:31:27] Especially being like a punk band.
[00:31:28] Yeah.
[00:31:28] Yeah.
[00:31:29] You know, but.
[00:31:31] It's still hard, especially when you're older.
[00:31:33] Yeah.
[00:31:33] We have no friends, bro.
[00:31:34] You know what I mean?
[00:31:35] You don't really.
[00:31:36] Yeah.
[00:31:37] No, it's true.
[00:31:38] It's totally true.
[00:31:38] And it's awesome that bands, that bars like Avant Garde, where I think if you had a show
[00:31:46] like that at a couple of other bands or other bars, you probably wouldn't be playing there
[00:31:51] anytime soon.
[00:31:52] Yeah, exactly.
[00:31:53] Yeah.
[00:31:54] I don't know.
[00:31:54] But I have a feeling.
[00:31:55] And it's like affordable.
[00:31:55] You can like rent it out yourself, get the homies together and do it.
[00:31:59] And it's not going to like cost you an arm and a leg to do it.
[00:32:01] That's right.
[00:32:01] But I have a feeling if you don't, I think Alex would have you back just to be a place
[00:32:06] to play.
[00:32:06] And he always hooks us up.
[00:32:07] Like bands will be like whatever and then he'll like vouch for us and then we'll get
[00:32:11] on bills like that and shit.
[00:32:12] Yeah.
[00:32:13] Yeah.
[00:32:13] As long as you're buying booze.
[00:32:14] Buying booze.
[00:32:15] He's got my zeros there.
[00:32:18] I drink like fucking 10 breadwaters while I'm there, you know?
[00:32:22] Yeah.
[00:32:22] Oh, dude.
[00:32:22] I love the pickle shots.
[00:32:23] He always gets me the vodka shots with the pickles and shit.
[00:32:26] Yeah.
[00:32:26] That shit's so good.
[00:32:27] It's cool.
[00:32:28] Nistrovius, boys.
[00:32:28] Anyways.
[00:32:29] So do you guys have any plans to do any touring, to do anything?
[00:32:34] Have you played out of town?
[00:32:36] Some out of town stuff?
[00:32:37] So I used to live in Kingston, like I said.
[00:32:40] So I used to work at this bar called The Mansion and like they let us fucking do a show
[00:32:44] there.
[00:32:44] So we played there and then we played in Montreal like what?
[00:32:47] Twice?
[00:32:47] Twice.
[00:32:48] Yeah.
[00:32:48] The first time we played in Montreal was we recorded with Chuzo and Carissa.
[00:32:58] Yeah.
[00:32:59] Carissa.
[00:33:00] And also Social Suicide was there.
[00:33:03] Yeah.
[00:33:03] Yeah.
[00:33:03] Shout out Kyle.
[00:33:04] Yeah.
[00:33:05] We played like shit that day though.
[00:33:06] Yeah.
[00:33:06] It was a really bad show for us.
[00:33:08] Yeah.
[00:33:08] It was a trash one for us for sure.
[00:33:10] Yeah.
[00:33:10] Kyle's the one who got us our first show.
[00:33:12] Yeah.
[00:33:12] Okay.
[00:33:13] Yeah.
[00:33:13] Yeah.
[00:33:14] Well, bad shows happen.
[00:33:15] Yeah.
[00:33:15] Fuck yeah.
[00:33:16] Yeah.
[00:33:16] We looked at the recording.
[00:33:17] Yeah.
[00:33:17] We were like, oh, this is rough.
[00:33:18] This is so bad.
[00:33:19] We were like, oh, that one was rough.
[00:33:21] Yeah.
[00:33:23] Yeah.
[00:33:23] I think the beauty of Ottawa is that we are in kind of the center of so much if you want
[00:33:30] to do touring.
[00:33:31] You know what I mean?
[00:33:31] Like if you do live in Thunder Bay, I think the closest thing is like Kenora, which is
[00:33:35] like fucking seven hours away.
[00:33:38] Uh-huh.
[00:33:38] Because you're in the middle of nowhere.
[00:33:39] Or you want to go do the bustling downtown of Fort Francis, Ontario.
[00:33:43] Yeah.
[00:33:43] You know what I mean?
[00:33:44] Yeah.
[00:33:44] But with Ottawa, you have Montreal, you have Toronto, you have Peterborough, you have Kingston.
[00:33:50] Yeah.
[00:33:51] You know, even little things like Van Cleek Hill and Cornwall have venues with like scenes
[00:33:55] or even going to Quebec, you go to Hull and play at Petit Chicago or whatever the fuck
[00:33:59] it's called.
[00:34:00] Yeah.
[00:34:00] Yeah.
[00:34:01] Have you ever looked into Pooza?
[00:34:03] I don't even know what that is, bro.
[00:34:04] Pooza Fest.
[00:34:05] Oh, yeah.
[00:34:05] You should write that down.
[00:34:06] Yeah, yeah.
[00:34:07] Every single year in Montreal, it used to be Poo-teen.
[00:34:13] Oh, yeah.
[00:34:15] Poo-teen and Pizza Fest.
[00:34:17] Uh-huh.
[00:34:17] And they started like a bunch of years back, they started having bands play Pooza Fest.
[00:34:22] Okay.
[00:34:22] And then it kind of blew up into this punk rock kind of community.
[00:34:26] Yeah.
[00:34:26] Now, every year, everybody applies to play Pooza Fest because it happens over the course
[00:34:31] of a weekend.
[00:34:31] Yeah.
[00:34:32] And every single bar in like Montreal is-
[00:34:35] There.
[00:34:36] Has a punk show.
[00:34:37] And basically, you just, you get a pass and you just walk around the streets and go in
[00:34:40] and out of-
[00:34:41] That's sick, bro.
[00:34:42] Out of the thing.
[00:34:43] So, yeah.
[00:34:44] Look it up.
[00:34:44] Yeah, we got to look that up.
[00:34:45] For sure.
[00:34:45] Remind me at the end.
[00:34:46] I'll write it on my phone.
[00:34:47] Yeah.
[00:34:47] And if you, and it's not, I won't say it's hard, like, I won't say it's easy to get in
[00:34:51] there, but if you apply, there's a pretty good chance-
[00:34:55] Yeah.
[00:34:55] You'll know somebody or they'll know somebody because they got to fill all this space, right?
[00:35:00] I've played Pooza Fest a few times and it's super, it's a super fucking fun community.
[00:35:04] Yeah.
[00:35:05] Like, when you're all out and just, because it's all punk rock and it's just all-
[00:35:08] Yeah, it's just classic.
[00:35:08] Yeah.
[00:35:08] And you can just jump from one spot to another.
[00:35:10] And you go to Belle de Provence and eat like fucking dollar hot dogs all night.
[00:35:13] Yeah.
[00:35:13] Yeah.
[00:35:13] Yeah.
[00:35:13] There's little piles of hot dog puke everywhere.
[00:35:16] Like the one on Tenth Line.
[00:35:18] La Belle Provence.
[00:35:20] Yeah.
[00:35:20] Same shit.
[00:35:20] On Tenth Line, yeah.
[00:35:21] Except you're right in the downtown Montreal, so the hot dogs taste a little hot dog.
[00:35:26] Yeah.
[00:35:27] They're just a little bit better.
[00:35:29] I hate hot dogs, man.
[00:35:31] Okay, well, get a burger then.
[00:35:33] Yeah, I'm a burger dude.
[00:35:36] So what do you want to do with the band?
[00:35:37] Like, you just want to, is it just for fun or do you want to keep going or-
[00:35:42] Yeah, we'll keep going forever, you know what I mean?
[00:35:43] Yeah, I don't really even know what we do, you know what I mean?
[00:35:46] We just keep making songs.
[00:35:47] We're going to put out albums, play shows, like-
[00:35:49] Mm-hmm.
[00:35:50] Where do you jam?
[00:35:51] Like, my house or his house.
[00:35:53] Yeah.
[00:35:53] Yeah.
[00:35:54] I think that's a hard one.
[00:35:56] I used to have a jam space at a buddy's place.
[00:35:58] Yeah.
[00:35:58] And if you have your own jam spot, you can pretty much write your own ticket, especially if you're
[00:36:01] going to record in your own jam spot.
[00:36:02] Yeah.
[00:36:03] Right now, with one of the bands I'm in, we're at one of the rehearsal studios.
[00:36:06] It's okay, but it's just like, you're trying to-
[00:36:10] Back in the day when we had our own jam spot, you could just like-
[00:36:12] Yeah, you had the freedom to do it when you wanted to.
[00:36:14] You had a jam?
[00:36:14] Yeah.
[00:36:14] Sure.
[00:36:15] It wasn't like, we have an hour, we need to do it, because then you feel pressured to
[00:36:18] do it.
[00:36:18] Or we have to be out of here in 27 minutes.
[00:36:21] Yeah.
[00:36:21] And you still got to clean up.
[00:36:22] And tear down.
[00:36:23] Yeah.
[00:36:23] It sucks.
[00:36:23] It's good if you're just practicing for a show or something, but to sit there and write
[00:36:28] in that setting is-
[00:36:30] Yeah.
[00:36:31] Yeah.
[00:36:31] There's not enough time.
[00:36:32] No.
[00:36:33] No.
[00:36:33] It's true.
[00:36:34] Yeah.
[00:36:35] Right.
[00:36:35] Because you're going cold, and you might actually start feeling it two hours into it.
[00:36:39] Yeah, exactly.
[00:36:39] Because you never know when it's going to happen, or if it's going to happen.
[00:36:42] Yeah.
[00:36:43] That's one thing I noticed, too.
[00:36:44] It's like, if we don't jam for a couple of weeks, and then we go to the rehearsal studio,
[00:36:47] the first run-through is just stiff, man.
[00:36:50] It's just like-
[00:36:51] Because you're just trying to figure it out again.
[00:36:52] Yeah.
[00:36:53] And as soon as you start kind of warming up, it's time to go.
[00:36:55] Time to go, yeah.
[00:36:55] Which is the worst.
[00:36:56] Yeah, bro.
[00:36:57] It's like-
[00:36:58] Even when you play shows, it's like, you know when you play a show, and then by the end
[00:37:01] of the show, you're like, okay, I'm warmed up.
[00:37:02] Yeah.
[00:37:02] We just started to sound good.
[00:37:04] The last song was really good, man.
[00:37:06] Yeah, exactly.
[00:37:07] Oh, well.
[00:37:08] Do you have any shows coming up?
[00:37:11] No, we just played-
[00:37:12] When did we play our last one?
[00:37:15] It was October-
[00:37:18] 17th and 18th.
[00:37:20] Yeah.
[00:37:20] Yeah, 17th and 18th.
[00:37:21] Oh, yeah.
[00:37:21] We played back-to-backs.
[00:37:22] Yeah, we played the one at Targ, and then the one at the Dom?
[00:37:26] Yeah, the Dom.
[00:37:28] And then, yeah, I'm just going to figure out next, going into the new year, to start getting
[00:37:32] shows again.
[00:37:32] Right on.
[00:37:33] Yeah.
[00:37:33] Well, wintertime, right?
[00:37:35] That's what I'm saying.
[00:37:35] It's a good time to write shit, and get your stuff in order.
[00:37:41] And 2025, it's a brand new year.
[00:37:44] Yeah, exactly.
[00:37:45] Start fresh.
[00:37:46] Yeah.
[00:37:46] I know.
[00:37:47] John, I feel like you haven't spoken much, so tell us the best story about being in Steve
[00:37:53] and the stab wounds since you've been in them.
[00:37:56] Since you've been in the belly of the beast.
[00:37:58] In the belly.
[00:37:58] There's lots of things going on.
[00:38:04] Yeah.
[00:38:13] Yeah.
[00:38:28] It's hard to...
[00:38:30] It's hard to name it.
[00:38:30] I would say my first show is actually probably...
[00:38:30] Yeah, that was a good show.
[00:38:31] Well, that was at Avant-Garde, right?
[00:38:32] Yeah, that was at Avant-Garde.
[00:38:33] It's a good place to start as well, yeah.
[00:38:35] And that's where we met Buddy from Bird Dog or whatever, and he works at that bar too.
[00:38:38] I found out later.
[00:38:40] Okay.
[00:38:40] Yeah, being in a band is a very unique experience, especially if you get in a bad band, that's
[00:38:47] a unique...
[00:38:47] That's a shitty experience.
[00:38:48] Yeah, that's a terrible time.
[00:38:49] But if you get in a band where you all get along and you're all buddies and you all kind
[00:38:53] of actually enjoy hanging out and you gel chemistry-wise making music, you can't buy that
[00:39:00] kind of thing, right?
[00:39:01] It's just something...
[00:39:02] And we just have fun, man.
[00:39:03] Yeah, I really like hanging out with those two dudes.
[00:39:06] Yeah, yeah.
[00:39:06] Yeah, it's a very creative space.
[00:39:09] It's like everybody just inputs their own ideas and we just run with that.
[00:39:14] It's not like...
[00:39:15] And we don't like...
[00:39:15] It's not too scripted.
[00:39:16] Yeah, it's not like we're trying to be like, oh, you can't do that or whatever.
[00:39:20] We don't care.
[00:39:21] Yeah, you know fucking dicks.
[00:39:22] Yeah, exactly.
[00:39:23] And everything we do, we discuss it.
[00:39:26] It's not just like, yeah, we're doing this.
[00:39:27] Yeah, it's not like...
[00:39:28] It's something we talk about.
[00:39:29] It's a democracy.
[00:39:30] It's not just that.
[00:39:32] And also, what is the bad thing for me is I don't have to bring anything most of the time.
[00:39:37] Yeah, exactly.
[00:39:38] Yeah, yeah.
[00:39:38] You just bring your fancy guitars and that's it.
[00:39:40] I don't even have it.
[00:39:41] It's just like, I feel bad to not bring anything.
[00:39:43] So that's the only thing I can...
[00:39:44] I don't even have my own bass rig.
[00:39:46] Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[00:39:47] You show up?
[00:39:48] Yeah, just show up.
[00:39:49] We bring all the shit.
[00:39:50] That's like the best gig in the world.
[00:39:51] Yeah, bro.
[00:39:52] It's like being the singer.
[00:39:53] That's right.
[00:39:54] That's right.
[00:39:55] Yeah, I just have to be there.
[00:39:56] What do you need from me?
[00:39:57] Just show up.
[00:39:57] Yeah, just plug in your microphone, bro.
[00:39:59] Just play your instrument.
[00:40:01] Yeah.
[00:40:01] Okay, cool.
[00:40:03] In GOAT, I did...
[00:40:05] Well, I do everything.
[00:40:06] I write.
[00:40:07] I do the networking.
[00:40:08] I do the social media.
[00:40:09] I do fucking everything.
[00:40:11] And then in my other band, the Riptides, I'm just the guitar player.
[00:40:13] Everything is done.
[00:40:14] The brothers?
[00:40:15] Uh-huh, yeah.
[00:40:15] It's like night and day experience, but it's a beautiful balance.
[00:40:20] I love not having to add any fucking...
[00:40:23] Because the machine is moving for me with them.
[00:40:26] Exactly.
[00:40:26] It's like, oh yeah, next week we're doing this, this, then this.
[00:40:28] Yeah.
[00:40:28] You're like, okay, cool, yeah.
[00:40:29] And it's like, what do I got to do?
[00:40:30] Just be there.
[00:40:31] Yeah, dude, yeah.
[00:40:32] It's good, man.
[00:40:33] It's fucking great.
[00:40:35] Anyway, Steve and the Stabwins, you wanted me to ask you.
[00:40:39] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:40:39] I'll tell you.
[00:40:40] Let's hear the story.
[00:40:41] So, me and Rhonda, we're jamming.
[00:40:43] We don't have a name yet.
[00:40:44] We're like, you know, I'm like looking through Jim Morrison poetry books trying to find a
[00:40:47] cool word or like...
[00:40:48] Hardest thing in the world is to name a band.
[00:40:50] Yeah, right?
[00:40:50] Yeah.
[00:40:51] And like, we had like a couple, like these and those, like...
[00:40:54] And then me and my buddy went to a chat show.
[00:40:57] You know the chats?
[00:40:58] Yeah.
[00:40:58] Yeah, right?
[00:40:58] So, we went to a chat show in Toronto.
[00:41:01] After that, we're drinking beer, we're chilling, and like, I ask him, and I'm like, yo, like,
[00:41:05] what's a good band name?
[00:41:06] He's like, Steve and the Stabwins was the first thing he said.
[00:41:09] Just off the cuff?
[00:41:10] Off the cuff, yeah, right?
[00:41:11] But he's like a prison guard or some shit, so I have some suspicions, you know what I mean?
[00:41:15] But, so then I text Rhonda, I was like, what do you think about this?
[00:41:17] He's like, it's over.
[00:41:18] You know what I mean?
[00:41:19] So I was like, done.
[00:41:20] Like, yeah.
[00:41:20] Yeah, man.
[00:41:21] That's gay.
[00:41:22] Might have been a Steve that got stabbed somewhere in the jail.
[00:41:24] Yeah, exactly.
[00:41:26] There's some Steve that doesn't have a long life.
[00:41:27] It was like the jail talent show or something.
[00:41:30] Yeah, exactly.
[00:41:30] Like, this is Steve and his...
[00:41:32] In the stab wound.
[00:41:32] He's like, I've been stabbed nine times.
[00:41:34] Yeah, he's just, he's not a band or nothing.
[00:41:35] He's just like, these are my stab wounds.
[00:41:36] Yeah.
[00:41:37] Still alive.
[00:41:38] That's great.
[00:41:44] Like, it's, if you look it up, it's like band nameology or some shit like that.
[00:41:48] And it shows all the different shit that goes into it.
[00:41:52] Like, what people look for and why they don't, you know, there's bands like...
[00:41:55] Because your name means everything, bro.
[00:41:56] It's like having a cool logo.
[00:41:57] You gotta have a cool logo, like.
[00:41:59] Yeah.
[00:41:59] Well, there's that band in Ottawa.
[00:42:00] It's called The Band Whose Name is a Symbol.
[00:42:03] That's their band name.
[00:42:04] That's hilarious.
[00:42:04] And then there was that No Use for a Name.
[00:42:06] There was that band.
[00:42:07] Yeah.
[00:42:07] And, you know, all that shit.
[00:42:08] It's like the Guess Who and shit, you know?
[00:42:09] Yeah, it's exactly.
[00:42:10] It's just like...
[00:42:11] Anyway.
[00:42:12] It's hard.
[00:42:12] It's super hard.
[00:42:13] And it's super hard to be...
[00:42:15] I don't know.
[00:42:16] For everyone to...
[00:42:17] A three-piece, though?
[00:42:18] Probably pretty easy to find band name.
[00:42:20] Nine-piece?
[00:42:21] Lots of opinions.
[00:42:22] Oh, yeah.
[00:42:23] For sure.
[00:42:23] I think in a nine-piece, you need a leader.
[00:42:25] You need someone to fucking steer that fucking ship away from the iceberg.
[00:42:30] Because if there's too many cooks in the fucking cereal soup kitchen, you know what
[00:42:33] I'm saying?
[00:42:33] Like, shit ain't gonna go well.
[00:42:34] Well done.
[00:42:35] Way to come back around.
[00:42:37] Okay.
[00:42:37] Do you...
[00:42:38] We're gonna play a game.
[00:42:39] Which I play on every episode of Vegan Advice.
[00:42:43] It's called 13 Questions with the Band.
[00:42:44] All right.
[00:42:45] Just random, rapid-fire questions.
[00:42:47] Before we do that, do you have any shout-outs or any honorable mentions that you'd like to...
[00:42:52] Shout-out Brad at Pandemonium.
[00:42:54] He gets the shows and shit like that.
[00:42:56] Who else?
[00:42:57] Shout-out Bird Dog.
[00:42:58] They're our boys.
[00:42:59] Shout-out Kyle from Social Suicide.
[00:43:02] All those homies.
[00:43:04] Fucking Tyler.
[00:43:05] Overalls.
[00:43:05] Who else, Rhonda?
[00:43:07] Amy.
[00:43:08] Yeah.
[00:43:08] Oh, yeah.
[00:43:08] The wives.
[00:43:09] Can't forget the wives.
[00:43:10] Because they put up with our nonsense.
[00:43:12] Yeah.
[00:43:12] They put up with being loud.
[00:43:13] Peachy.
[00:43:14] Shout-out Peachy.
[00:43:15] That's my kid.
[00:43:15] Yeah.
[00:43:17] She digs the music.
[00:43:18] She hangs out with the boys.
[00:43:19] Peachy came to one of our shows.
[00:43:20] My kid came to, like, the Live on Elgin show.
[00:43:22] It was hilarious.
[00:43:23] Oh, that's the only one she came?
[00:43:24] Yeah.
[00:43:24] That's the only one that she's been to.
[00:43:26] Yeah.
[00:43:26] Yeah.
[00:43:27] A year and a half.
[00:43:28] She's, like, two now.
[00:43:29] But she was, like, a year when she went there.
[00:43:31] Cool.
[00:43:31] That was the last year.
[00:43:32] Yeah.
[00:43:33] Yeah.
[00:43:33] I think having a partner, whoever they are, that is still on board as you get older.
[00:43:41] There's that, I don't know, it's like this little thing on the internet where it's,
[00:43:46] shows this girl, and she's, like, in your 20s, she's, like, you're in a band?
[00:43:49] Yeah.
[00:43:50] And then it's, like, 30s, like, oh, you're in a band.
[00:43:52] And then it's, like, 40s is, like, you're in a band?
[00:43:54] Yeah.
[00:43:55] You know, it's so true, right?
[00:43:56] Oh, yeah.
[00:43:56] For sure.
[00:43:57] Yeah.
[00:43:57] My girlfriend is super supportive, but she knows that it makes me happy.
[00:44:02] You can see her at the back of the club, just kind of like that.
[00:44:04] Yeah.
[00:44:05] She's, like, yeah, I'm just flipping through.
[00:44:07] I'm just here for you.
[00:44:08] Yeah.
[00:44:08] You go do your things.
[00:44:10] Pretty much, yeah.
[00:44:11] But whatever.
[00:44:11] It's in you, right?
[00:44:12] Yeah.
[00:44:12] It'll never not be in you.
[00:44:13] If you play music at some point, I always feel bad for people that will never, who will
[00:44:18] never be in a band.
[00:44:19] Yeah, bro.
[00:44:20] Or never even get up on stage and play, like, an acoustic song.
[00:44:23] Especially when they're good, man.
[00:44:24] Yeah.
[00:44:25] Like, there's so many people that are, like, good.
[00:44:26] And I'm, like, just, like, write a song, bro.
[00:44:28] Yeah.
[00:44:28] Like, you know what I mean?
[00:44:29] You're a really good guitar player.
[00:44:30] Just write a song.
[00:44:30] Just your average civilian walking down the street, the percentage of people actually
[00:44:35] probably in bands that perform is very, well, it's probably lots.
[00:44:39] But with the population, it's just, I feel bad for someone who always kind of wanted
[00:44:43] to do it and never got the chance.
[00:44:44] Because even if it's just, like, in front of 10 people or in front of 10,000, I guess
[00:44:48] it's amazing.
[00:44:49] And, like, who never, like, saw a band and been like, oh, that would be sick.
[00:44:52] Yeah, right.
[00:44:52] You know what I mean?
[00:44:53] Like, every time you see a sick band, you're like, oh, I wish I was doing that.
[00:44:55] It's got to be on everyone's bucket list somewhere.
[00:44:57] It'd be like, to be in a rock band.
[00:44:59] Yeah.
[00:44:59] You know what I mean?
[00:45:00] If I ever played a live venue, I had no idea how easy it actually is to just go out there
[00:45:08] and do it.
[00:45:09] So for anybody that hears this and is listening, just go and do it.
[00:45:13] Yeah.
[00:45:13] Because you have nothing to lose.
[00:45:15] Absolutely nothing.
[00:45:16] Yeah.
[00:45:16] And nobody cares.
[00:45:17] But then it's got you.
[00:45:19] Yeah.
[00:45:19] It's like a drug band.
[00:45:20] Yeah.
[00:45:21] If you're having fun, that's all that matters.
[00:45:23] Yeah.
[00:45:23] That's why I don't mind playing bass.
[00:45:25] Although I've never played bass before.
[00:45:26] Yeah.
[00:45:27] Bass is fucking rad, man.
[00:45:28] Nothing wrong with bass.
[00:45:29] Yeah.
[00:45:30] But he's like a good guitar player.
[00:45:31] You know what I mean?
[00:45:32] Yeah.
[00:45:32] Like, he's good.
[00:45:33] Because I've never played bass before.
[00:45:34] Yeah.
[00:45:35] He doesn't even have a bass.
[00:45:37] I love playing bass.
[00:45:38] Whenever I do my recordings and shit like that, when it comes to bass, I'm all over the
[00:45:42] I'm kind of like, you know what I mean?
[00:45:43] The guitar, you're like, okay, I got to have the rhythm or whatever.
[00:45:45] But the bass, you're like.
[00:45:46] Yeah.
[00:45:47] I love making like little bass runs and stuff.
[00:45:49] And the bass slides.
[00:45:51] Yeah.
[00:45:51] Cool.
[00:45:52] All right.
[00:45:52] So let's play 13 questions with the band.
[00:45:55] Stephen the Stabwoods, baby.
[00:45:57] Can I use the word?
[00:45:58] I'm real quick.
[00:45:59] No.
[00:46:00] Yeah.
[00:46:00] That's a no.
[00:46:01] Go ahead.
[00:46:02] Time for 13 questions with the band.
[00:46:04] Yes, this segment's back again.
[00:46:06] It's called 13 questions.
[00:46:08] But I only asked six.
[00:46:09] Maybe five.
[00:46:10] Okay.
[00:46:10] We're back.
[00:46:11] This is Ego and Vice episode 146.
[00:46:14] This is 13 questions with Stephen the Stabwoods.
[00:46:18] I'm going to ask each of you a question and you can each answer it.
[00:46:23] I have to explain that I have 13 questions.
[00:46:27] Out of the 13 questions, I will ask you questions.
[00:46:29] I won't ask you a full 13 questions.
[00:46:32] Okay.
[00:46:32] I get a lot of confusion there.
[00:46:33] Yeah.
[00:46:34] I feel I have to clarify.
[00:46:35] We'll just roll with the punches.
[00:46:36] That's right.
[00:46:37] Okay.
[00:46:39] Tux.
[00:46:39] Yes, sir.
[00:46:40] First question is, what is the very first record CD or any physical album you ever bought
[00:46:48] with your own money?
[00:46:49] Oh, dude.
[00:46:52] Probably like, I remember getting a CD from West 49 because I bought like a t-shirt or whatever.
[00:47:00] And they just gave me a CD and it had like Silverstein and like Thursday and like all that
[00:47:04] shit on it.
[00:47:05] Those are like Much Music Hits.
[00:47:06] Remember those?
[00:47:07] Yeah.
[00:47:07] Oh, dude.
[00:47:08] Those are the best.
[00:47:08] Big Shine Tunes 5.
[00:47:10] Big Shine Tunes 5 and 6 were my jam, bro.
[00:47:13] I can't like remember the first thing, but it was like probably some like, you know, punk
[00:47:17] rock fucking, you know, my dad was like a big rock and roll head.
[00:47:21] So it's like, you know, all that shit.
[00:47:22] I just grew up on that shit.
[00:47:23] Cool.
[00:47:24] John?
[00:47:25] Same question.
[00:47:26] Same question.
[00:47:27] My very first CD I bought, I'm pretty sure it's a whole set of Counterfeit Beatles
[00:47:34] collection.
[00:47:35] Oh, dude.
[00:47:35] Love the Beatles.
[00:47:36] Yeah.
[00:47:37] That's a big one right there.
[00:47:38] That's Roots, man.
[00:47:39] It's classic.
[00:47:40] It's classic.
[00:47:40] I love the Beatles.
[00:47:41] The classic, the legends.
[00:47:42] The first vinyl I ever got was My Woman from Tokyo, though.
[00:47:45] Yeah.
[00:47:46] Nice.
[00:47:47] Ronda?
[00:47:48] The first album I ever bought was from, was a CD from HMV.
[00:47:53] It was Robert Johnson.
[00:47:55] Nice.
[00:47:56] Yeah.
[00:47:56] Big ones.
[00:47:57] Classic blues album.
[00:47:58] Yeah.
[00:47:59] Some Delta blues.
[00:48:00] Yeah.
[00:48:00] Some old school blues.
[00:48:02] Robert Johnson.
[00:48:03] Robert Johnson.
[00:48:04] Jeez, that guy has like 35 songs or something.
[00:48:07] That guy.
[00:48:07] Okay.
[00:48:08] What was the very first live concert you ever saw?
[00:48:13] Like, you mean like, just like local stuff or you mean like a big band?
[00:48:18] Whatever.
[00:48:18] First time you ever remember seeing like a band playing on stage?
[00:48:22] I can't even remember what they were called, but like me and my buddy just went to like a
[00:48:25] high school show.
[00:48:26] There was like some band playing at like Brockville High School or some shit like that.
[00:48:30] You know what I mean?
[00:48:30] Yeah.
[00:48:30] Like the Carp Fair.
[00:48:32] Yeah, exactly.
[00:48:33] Like something like that.
[00:48:34] Yeah.
[00:48:35] I think the first band that I ever saw live was my dad took me and one of my friends to
[00:48:43] Canada Day celebration for the first time in Ottawa when we were really young.
[00:48:46] Yeah.
[00:48:47] And we saw the Tea Party.
[00:48:48] Oh, sick.
[00:48:49] That's decent.
[00:48:50] Perfect pitch, bro.
[00:48:50] Perfect pitch.
[00:48:51] Tea Party and was it Tom Cochran?
[00:48:54] I think Tom Cochran was there too.
[00:48:56] Yes.
[00:48:56] I thought for sure you were going to say Kim Mitchell.
[00:48:59] Oh, yeah.
[00:48:59] I thought you were going to say the Mitch.
[00:49:01] Yeah.
[00:49:01] The Mitch Doug.
[00:49:02] That was the earliest I can remember.
[00:49:03] Yeah.
[00:49:04] My first one, actually, when I was in China, I saw a couple of concerts.
[00:49:08] They're not really bands.
[00:49:09] They're just finger thingies.
[00:49:11] I probably don't know.
[00:49:11] Yeah.
[00:49:12] But when I'm the first band I saw in Canada, it's actually is a farewell tour, the last show
[00:49:17] Rush played in 2016.
[00:49:19] The very last one.
[00:49:21] Damn.
[00:49:22] Yeah.
[00:49:22] That was like, that was the first show I've ever saw.
[00:49:24] And that's a good one.
[00:49:26] The first, last Rush show.
[00:49:28] That's the last one they played.
[00:49:30] And it's at a Toronto home play as well.
[00:49:32] You win.
[00:49:32] You win that category.
[00:49:33] Yeah.
[00:49:34] That's it.
[00:49:34] Yeah.
[00:49:35] Okay.
[00:49:36] Next question.
[00:49:40] Name a song right now that you could, that you know every, you know all the lyrics to.
[00:49:46] Oh, fuck.
[00:49:47] Gangster's Paradise.
[00:49:48] Coolio.
[00:49:49] Okay.
[00:49:49] Yeah.
[00:49:49] That's a good one, Rhonda.
[00:49:52] Like, Help by the Beatles probably.
[00:49:54] Something like that.
[00:49:55] Okay.
[00:49:56] Tornado of Souls.
[00:49:58] Megadeth.
[00:49:59] Yes.
[00:49:59] Yeah.
[00:50:00] He loves Megadeth.
[00:50:00] He's a big Megadeth fan.
[00:50:02] That's a, that's a Friedman one too.
[00:50:05] Yeah.
[00:50:05] Marty.
[00:50:06] Marty Friedman.
[00:50:07] Yeah.
[00:50:07] Marty solo?
[00:50:08] Yeah.
[00:50:08] I do all, that's what I, what I play at home.
[00:50:11] Yeah.
[00:50:12] What I buy myself.
[00:50:13] Yeah.
[00:50:13] What?
[00:50:14] That song or that solo?
[00:50:15] That song and the solo and the Hunger 18 full song, full solo.
[00:50:18] Yeah.
[00:50:18] What is he doing on bass?
[00:50:19] I do.
[00:50:20] And I tell him that too.
[00:50:21] I'm like, bro, I can barely even play.
[00:50:22] I really like playing the bass in the band.
[00:50:23] Yeah.
[00:50:26] Tornado.
[00:50:26] Okay.
[00:50:27] Yeah.
[00:50:28] Moving right along.
[00:50:30] Uh, okay.
[00:50:31] Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, if, uh, what is your desert island record?
[00:50:35] If you got stranded on a desert island for a year and you only had one piece of music
[00:50:40] to listen to.
[00:50:40] Nirvana.
[00:50:41] Which one?
[00:50:42] Probably.
[00:50:43] I'd go the fucking in utero probably.
[00:50:46] In utero's nasty.
[00:50:47] The later Nirvana.
[00:50:48] Yeah.
[00:50:49] Yeah.
[00:50:49] The Pat Smear years.
[00:50:51] Well, maybe not.
[00:50:52] Yeah.
[00:50:52] But like, yeah.
[00:50:52] Same, same shit.
[00:50:53] Yeah.
[00:50:55] Boys?
[00:50:57] Michael Jackson history.
[00:50:58] Mm.
[00:50:59] Ah.
[00:50:59] Nice.
[00:51:00] That's a good one.
[00:51:01] John's pretty eclectic with his.
[00:51:02] Yeah.
[00:51:03] Taste buds.
[00:51:04] His tastes.
[00:51:04] I appreciate it.
[00:51:05] I appreciate you.
[00:51:07] Thank you.
[00:51:08] I would say anything by Alexis on fire.
[00:51:11] Nice.
[00:51:11] Yeah.
[00:51:12] Man.
[00:51:12] Huge.
[00:51:13] Yeah.
[00:51:13] I saw Alexis on fire when they were like nobody.
[00:51:18] That's sick.
[00:51:19] Yeah.
[00:51:19] That's sick.
[00:51:19] They were fucking jumping around and spinning around.
[00:51:22] Baby face Dallas.
[00:51:23] Yeah.
[00:51:23] Yeah.
[00:51:23] It was wild, man.
[00:51:24] Dude, they're sick, man.
[00:51:25] What is this shit?
[00:51:26] We took my kid when she was like six months old to go see Blues Fest when they played at
[00:51:31] Blues Fest with like Sum 41 and shit.
[00:51:32] So that was like her first show.
[00:51:34] I used to, well, I still do.
[00:51:37] I have a friend, my friend who lives in, who was from Thunder Bay.
[00:51:40] She still lives in Toronto.
[00:51:41] We used to go take the train up and we used to just go and see bands and stuff.
[00:51:45] And I saw them at the Horseshoe.
[00:51:46] Oh, Horseshoe's sick, bro.
[00:51:48] Like, I don't even know what year it was, but they were just a bunch of fucking kids and
[00:51:51] they were just.
[00:51:52] Yeah.
[00:51:52] It was insanity.
[00:51:53] Yeah.
[00:51:53] And I just, the last time I saw them was at Blues Fest a couple years ago.
[00:51:57] Yeah.
[00:51:57] Now they're all fat and old.
[00:51:59] Yeah.
[00:51:59] Yeah.
[00:51:59] It's still good.
[00:52:00] Oh, yeah.
[00:52:01] Oh, yeah.
[00:52:01] The music's always good.
[00:52:02] They're still killing it.
[00:52:03] Anyway.
[00:52:03] Okay.
[00:52:04] That like the new shit they put out is good too.
[00:52:06] Yeah.
[00:52:07] It's okay.
[00:52:08] Yeah.
[00:52:09] It's not like the good old days, but it's like, you know what I mean?
[00:52:11] Yeah.
[00:52:11] For being gone for that long, it's still decent.
[00:52:13] Yeah.
[00:52:13] But they left on such a high.
[00:52:15] Like they, there's that one, I think there's that one video of them.
[00:52:19] Is it from Hamilton?
[00:52:21] Like their very last show?
[00:52:23] I can't even remember, bro.
[00:52:24] What a fucking way to go out.
[00:52:25] And then they came back and they.
[00:52:26] They're just a solid band.
[00:52:28] Nobody's like them.
[00:52:28] You know what I mean?
[00:52:29] Yeah.
[00:52:29] And it's like, you know, they never, if they, I'm glad that they're back and they're,
[00:52:33] they're making new music, but they've never came back.
[00:52:35] Stuff of legend.
[00:52:37] Yeah.
[00:52:37] Yeah.
[00:52:37] Fuck.
[00:52:38] Yeah.
[00:52:38] And now you can just go see them next week and it's just like, yeah.
[00:52:42] All right.
[00:52:43] Sorry.
[00:52:44] Next question.
[00:52:46] What is a music conspiracy theory that you kind of believe is true?
[00:52:52] Oh, I don't even know, dude.
[00:52:55] Michael Jackson and Prince is murdered.
[00:52:58] Yes.
[00:52:58] Yeah.
[00:53:00] I don't believe in them, but I like the Paul McCartney died in the car crash one or whatever.
[00:53:04] That one's funny.
[00:53:04] Cause the, the bare feet or whatever the fuck and all that shit.
[00:53:08] Like, yeah, that's, I watched that movie with like the George Harrison tapes.
[00:53:13] Yeah.
[00:53:13] Yeah.
[00:53:13] It was fake.
[00:53:14] It was like a mockumentary.
[00:53:15] Yeah.
[00:53:15] It was like, yeah.
[00:53:17] Oh yeah.
[00:53:17] Some of the shit's crazy.
[00:53:18] Like the fucking like Courtney killed Kurt.
[00:53:20] That's what I was going to say.
[00:53:21] I thought you were going to say that.
[00:53:22] No, I don't give a shit about all that shit.
[00:53:24] I'm like, whatever, you know.
[00:53:27] Yeah.
[00:53:28] Tupac's not dead.
[00:53:29] Yeah.
[00:53:30] He's alive and well.
[00:53:31] Yeah.
[00:53:31] He's hanging out with Biggie.
[00:53:33] He's in Jamaica.
[00:53:33] Oh, you know who else ain't dead?
[00:53:34] Jim Morrison ain't dead, baby.
[00:53:35] Yeah, he's living in Venezuela.
[00:53:37] Jim Morrison's 107 years old.
[00:53:39] Yeah.
[00:53:40] Okay.
[00:53:41] Let's see.
[00:53:42] If Steven the Stab Wounds could open for any band, who would it be?
[00:53:47] Oh, fuck.
[00:53:49] I don't even know.
[00:53:50] There's a lot.
[00:53:50] You know what?
[00:53:51] If we could open for the Drunk Moms.
[00:53:52] I love the Drunk Moms.
[00:53:53] Drunk Moms.
[00:53:54] Yeah.
[00:53:54] They're all Australian punk band.
[00:53:55] They're sick.
[00:53:56] Offspring.
[00:53:57] Yeah.
[00:53:57] Offspring would be sick.
[00:53:58] Offspring?
[00:53:58] Yeah.
[00:53:59] Offspring would be sick.
[00:54:02] Anybody.
[00:54:03] ACDC.
[00:54:04] Doesn't matter.
[00:54:04] It doesn't really matter to me.
[00:54:05] Yeah.
[00:54:06] Rhonda doesn't give a shit.
[00:54:07] I just want to play the show.
[00:54:08] Yeah.
[00:54:08] As long as we're just playing.
[00:54:09] Yeah.
[00:54:10] Fuck it.
[00:54:10] Let's open for Alexis on Fire Rondo.
[00:54:12] Let's do that.
[00:54:13] Okay.
[00:54:13] Yeah.
[00:54:13] Yeah.
[00:54:13] Let's do that.
[00:54:14] All right.
[00:54:15] If you got some big distributing deal or some sort of, you know, advance from like
[00:54:21] for your music, what would be the first thing you bought with your million dollar advance?
[00:54:25] Oh, bro.
[00:54:25] I'm buying all the studio gear.
[00:54:27] I'm getting all the shit.
[00:54:28] Like all the shit.
[00:54:29] Putting back into the band.
[00:54:30] Oh, yeah.
[00:54:31] We're getting the whole.
[00:54:31] We have the nicest damn recording studio there was.
[00:54:34] Making shitty music in it.
[00:54:35] Like.
[00:54:37] Yeah.
[00:54:37] I'm going to go buy the Jackson King V.
[00:54:40] I was going to say, yeah, you're going to get a crazy guitar.
[00:54:43] The Davis thing.
[00:54:44] Jackson King V.
[00:54:44] Yeah.
[00:54:44] That's the one I'm going to buy.
[00:54:46] Yeah.
[00:54:48] I would invest in real estate.
[00:54:50] Yeah.
[00:54:50] Rhonda's the smart one.
[00:54:51] For when this band ultimately implodes.
[00:54:56] That's probably the best way to go about it.
[00:54:58] Yeah.
[00:54:59] Okay.
[00:54:59] A couple more questions.
[00:55:01] If you could have a drink or a meal with any musician, live or dead, who would be?
[00:55:06] Jim Morrison.
[00:55:07] Iggy Pop.
[00:55:08] All the Beatles.
[00:55:10] Kurt.
[00:55:11] All the homies.
[00:55:14] Dave Mustaine.
[00:55:15] Dave Mustaine.
[00:55:16] In the good old years.
[00:55:17] In the good old years.
[00:55:18] The Free Basin years.
[00:55:19] No, right?
[00:55:21] I think it would be my great grandmother.
[00:55:24] She was a Kaluthra soprano and she won a bunch of first prize medals at the Toronto Exhibition.
[00:55:35] And she used to sing on Broadway.
[00:55:36] I'd like to, I don't know, it'd be interesting to see someone from that era.
[00:55:44] Have a conversation.
[00:55:45] Yeah.
[00:55:45] I feel like Queens of Stone Age should be fun to drink with too.
[00:55:48] Yeah, that's right.
[00:55:49] Yeah.
[00:55:49] Cool.
[00:55:50] All right.
[00:55:51] Last question, I guess for everybody.
[00:55:55] Who is Steve and the Stabloons?
[00:55:58] Or who are?
[00:56:00] Steve's some guy that got stabbed in jail, I'm assuming.
[00:56:03] I don't know.
[00:56:04] Who are we?
[00:56:04] I don't really know, dude.
[00:56:06] I couldn't tell you who we are.
[00:56:09] Anybody got anything of who we are?
[00:56:14] I feel like the music just speaks for yourself.
[00:56:16] Like, you know what I mean?
[00:56:17] It just is what it is kind of thing.
[00:56:19] We're punk rockers.
[00:56:20] At least, you know what I mean?
[00:56:21] I am.
[00:56:22] We're just creative, collaborative.
[00:56:26] Yeah.
[00:56:26] Of anything, pretty much.
[00:56:28] Yeah, exactly.
[00:56:29] We just like, you know what I mean?
[00:56:30] We like what we like.
[00:56:30] There's an open space of ideas.
[00:56:32] Yeah.
[00:56:32] An open space.
[00:56:33] We just like to have fun, man.
[00:56:34] Yeah, because it doesn't really matter what round of what we're playing.
[00:56:37] It's so cool or complicated.
[00:56:39] If it's loud as shit, if it's quiet.
[00:56:42] A gaping knife wound of ideas.
[00:56:45] Exactly.
[00:56:45] Yeah, exactly.
[00:56:45] We're just trying to cram in all the fucking ideas.
[00:56:48] We don't really think too much about much.
[00:56:52] I don't even think, bro.
[00:56:53] All right.
[00:56:54] Well, Tux, John, Rhonda, thank you so much for being on Ego and Vice.
[00:56:58] Amen, dude.
[00:56:59] Thanks for having us, eh?
[00:57:00] Any last words?
[00:57:01] Steven the Stab Wounds, baby!
[00:57:02] All right.
[00:57:03] Thank you so much.
[00:57:04] All the best.
[00:57:04] And we'll see you soon.
[00:57:06] Cheers, dude.
[00:57:07] Fuck you.
[01:01:31] Hey, so that is the end of episode 146.
[01:01:35] I'd like to thank Steven the Stab Wounds, Tux, John, and Rhonda for coming by Southwood
[01:01:40] Studio and having a chat.
[01:01:43] Cool guys, fun band.
[01:01:45] Check them out.
[01:01:46] If you want to check me out, you can always go to egoandvicepodcast.com.
[01:01:52] All the links, everything you need to do to listen to the podcast is there.
[01:01:57] If you want to get a hold of me, you can reach me at egoandvice at gmail.com.
[01:02:01] Season 8 is winding down.
[01:02:03] A few more episodes, and then I'm on my snowboard break for 2025.
[01:02:08] I have a lot of plans for Season 9.
[01:02:10] Going to keep going.
[01:02:11] Going to keep doing it.
[01:02:13] But this season, this one's been fun.
[01:02:17] Been fun.
[01:02:18] Anyway, yeah, that's it.
[01:02:19] I'll see you next week.
[01:02:20] Bye.
[01:02:20] You've got a real attitude problem, McFly.
[01:02:23] You're a slacker.