Episode 138: Just Fine

[00:00:00] Hey all, it's Mike. Normally I have a little montage of soundbites, song pieces, that type of thing as I do as an intro, but I got flagged last time and the podcast was restricted from certain areas.

[00:00:17] I was worried it was gonna get pulled down, so I'm gonna take a little break from those little montages just to get off people's radar. You know what I mean? In the meantime, I'll keep it simple. Ego and Vice, Episode 138.

[00:00:31] You've got a real attitude problem, McFly, you're a slacker. Yeah, totally such a bummer. Hey, sorry it's Mike. It's Ego and Vice. Welcome back. This is Episode 138. Like Lars Ulrich needs more money? I'm sure like, anyway. It's all AI, it's the algorithm I used like...

[00:01:54] 10 seconds of a song, which I thought was normal. I thought it was okay. I mean as long as it wasn't over 30 seconds. But if you actually use it directly from like a Spotify account instead of just finding like a little snippet on YouTube by some other user's name,

[00:02:10] I guess they can track it immediately. So I'm gonna stop doing that for a bit. Because I don't want anything to prevent. I'm sure it won't. I'm sure it wouldn't go anywhere. I'm sure it's just what happens.

[00:02:22] But I don't want anything to kind of be negative about this podcast. So I'm just gonna give that a break. I'm gonna stick to the music on the show that people give me permission to play. Fair enough?

[00:02:36] Anyway, the people, the band that gave me permission to play their music this week is a band called Just Fine. Salin and Ronnie came into Southwood Studio and we talked all things Just Fine. Great conversation. I'm gonna get right into it.

[00:02:56] This is the very new song or the latest single I should say from Just Fine. It is called Felt Like I Do. After this track is done, we're gonna come back with Salin and Ronnie and everything's gonna be Just Fine right here on Ego and Vice.

[00:07:08] This is episode 138. As promised in the intro, I have two members of the local band. Just Fine and Salin. I have Ronnie. How are you guys doing?

[00:07:18] Hello there. Good. How are you doing? I'm good. I'm glad the heat wave is over. It was getting a little thick out there.

[00:07:27] That's real thick. Yeah. That thickest. I have AC in the house. It's not on today because it was a little cooler but my car, the AC broke.

[00:07:36] Oh no. So I was like driving around with the windows open, which was kind of nice actually and you get kind of used to it but there's lots to be said about modern technology like air conditioning when you're pummeled by a heat wave.

[00:07:52] Like the one we have. Yeah. The AC in my car doesn't work. Never has. Nothing in the car works.

[00:07:58] So Just Fine. Let's talk about Just Fine. I did a little bit of research, the best I could, the best I can normally and it looks as far as I can go back it says that you were formed in 2021. Does that make sense?

[00:08:14] Does that make sense Ronnie? No, I don't think so. I think we formed in like... Like 22? No. Well, I guess it depends. Yeah, we started making music. Maybe it was 2021 then.

[00:08:26] And like I thought like Pandy, pre-Pandy. The band though. Oh the band. The band. Okay. Yeah. So when did our EP come out? 2022, April 2022. I think it makes sense. I think we had... So yeah, that's kind of when the band started.

[00:08:39] Yeah. All right. April 2022. Ronnie, you and I off Mike we were talking about how we're around the same age and we kind of came up the same way in Ottawa through the... I call it the Aughts probably because of Grandpa Simpson but 2001 I guess 2009 would it be?

[00:09:01] So you have experience. You're a seasoned... Oh no, I wouldn't call myself a musician. You played in a band called... What was it called again? Blazer. Blazer. Anyone remembers Blazer? So do you want to talk about some of the roots of your origin story of music as they say?

[00:09:22] Yeah, sure. I guess why not? Well, yeah, I was... I started playing music in the mid 2000s, I think like 2005 or 2006 with my best friends. We all lived in a house together and we all just played music all the way. We worked during the day and then we just raced home to play music and record music.

[00:09:49] And yeah, it all kind of ended in 2010 and then I really didn't do any kind of music for like basically until I met you, Selen. Right, right, right, right. Selen. Yeah.

[00:10:08] So is Just Fine one of your first projects or are you also seasoned? Do you have a history as far as the local scene? The first and only. Oh yeah? Yeah.

[00:10:19] Cool. So growing up, I guess you've always been a music fan. Did you listen to music? Is this something that just came later in life or did you know you wanted to sing from when you were young?

[00:10:29] I was really shy so I never sang in front of anyone until I was like, I don't even know, like 26 I feel like or something. And then no, I just listened to music. I never played any instruments or anything like that.

[00:10:45] But yeah, I used to always go to Blues Fest, just go alone every single year since I was 12. I loved it. Yeah.

[00:10:52] Can you both recall like early influences when you were younger? Do you remember music being in your house? You come from like a lot of like a musical history, you know?

[00:11:01] I remember when I was a kid, I've told the story before about one of my fondest and earliest memories of music was going on like summer vacations with my parents and there was like an Eagles cassette like stuck in the car stereo

[00:11:15] and it just played. It was like the Eagles greatest hits and it just played over and over. It's the earliest memory of music I have, but it's also the reason I can't listen to the Eagles today. That's too bad.

[00:11:28] I'm ruined, but do you have any memories of that? Like early, early, like when you first kind of noticed music?

[00:11:34] Like I feel like there were two moments in my life that where I really noticed music, like not to be like super cliche or anything, but like hearing Are You Experienced by Jimi Hendrix, that definitely like that was really positive experience in my life.

[00:11:54] But then like the thing that really like unlocked it for me was like, I think listening to smells like Teen Spirit. Yeah. And that was just like, that was a moment in time. And yeah, that was, yeah, it's really awesome.

[00:12:11] Well, those are some pretty, those are some pretty big moments and pretty big sounds that are hard to miss. Do you know what I mean? So I can relate. I remember where I was when I first heard my friend, his name was James Reed.

[00:12:25] I'm from Thunder Bay, Ontario. He came to this group and we were at school and he said, you have to listen to this band. It's the greatest band of all time. In the music video too.

[00:12:38] Yeah. And it was, and it was smells like Teen, or it was Never Mind from Nirvana. So then do you, do you have any memories, like early memories of? Yeah, I guess I never took any like lessons or anything like that.

[00:12:51] Or there wasn't really instruments in the house. But there was, yeah, I grew up listening to country music. Lots of melody though. Lots of melody in country music.

[00:13:01] Yeah. I think my earliest memory is like, I feel like my parents have like videos of me as a kid just like listening to CMT. You know, but yeah, I don't know. That's cool.

[00:13:13] Do you find that, and you do most of the song writing or lyric writing I guess in Just Fine? Oh, I'd say you do all the lyric writing. All the lyric writing. Do you find like those early memories and those early influences they still influence you today?

[00:13:31] Or have you completely changed your style or what kind of moves you when it comes to being inspired by?

[00:13:38] Yeah, I guess a lot of the music that I grew up listening to, like a lot of like, I don't know if it'd be like poppy songs from the 90s that I really liked and stuff. I feel like they kind of influence. Yeah, I don't really know.

[00:13:56] Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's cool. I think a lot of the stuff we take from being younger kind of, it never really goes away.

[00:14:07] It just kind of evolves from what we first liked to where we are because you said country music and I touched on it where country music has like tons of melody in it.

[00:14:16] And I think the roots of all music are like folk, like string music, like song written stuff. I'm not talking about classical music and stuff like that. Let's just talk about the singer-songwriter type of thing.

[00:14:25] I think it all stems from like folk music, traditional country music where it's just like as they call them the cowboy chords where there's like, you know, G, D, C or something over and over again with just a nice little melody.

[00:14:38] And you can write a bazillion songs over that chord arrangement or that chord structure. So yeah, I think country is a great thing to accidentally listen to when you're a kid and I guarantee that it would influence your style as you grew up.

[00:14:54] When you first started getting together, you said this is your first kind of project. Ronnie, you've been around for a while. How did you guys, how'd you meet? I used to work at Dominion City and yeah, no, I used to work there.

[00:15:09] And I, at the time I had met one of my colleagues named Cal who we love dearly. And yeah, he introduced me to Ronnie. Cal and I go way back.

[00:15:20] Yeah. Yeah, and that's kind of how it happened. It was just, it was very like a random, I think we were getting ready for like a Halloween thing at Tooth and Nail or something.

[00:15:30] And then I played like a song on guitar that was like a Taylor Swift song and he was like, oh, you should come over and record. I'll bring Ronnie over or whatever it was. Yeah, and we like originally, that's how we, that's what we were doing musically.

[00:15:44] We were working on like Cal's stuff. Like I was laying down guitar and bass for him. Yeah, I didn't really. And then they were like, you should just try and write something. And then eventually we just did. Yeah, we ended up being neighbors without realizing.

[00:15:56] So then during the pandemic when like everything kind of, yeah, we hung out on his bulk a lot. Yeah, I think the pandemic was good for songwriters. I've had this conversation before in it. I guess it's always interesting to see how it affected people.

[00:16:12] Some people were very creative during the pandemic and some people just kind of like me just went, no, I don't want to do anything. Now I don't have to do anything because there's no expectation, right?

[00:16:23] Right. So how did it affect you as far as have you always, regardless of whether you've been a singer or not, have you always written lyrics? Have you always written poetry?

[00:16:34] Like are you a writer? Are you, do you like words? You know what I mean? Like the structure of stuff? I don't think I ever really gave it a go, no. Until they were like just try and write something.

[00:16:46] And I yeah, the whole reason I was trying to learn how to play guitar, just some chords and stuff because I was too shoddicing in front of anybody. And I was like, oh, maybe this will help.

[00:16:56] And then, you know, I think what really helped was just learning some songs and then you can just kind of go your own way on guitar. And that's kind of what it came out of. But no, I never really wrote anything other than like things in English class.

[00:17:11] Do you now? Just the songs that we have like are just jamming on songs alone but not like poetry or anything like that. Do you find it hard to do or has it come pretty easily?

[00:17:22] I think some of them come pretty fast and feel pretty cathartic when they arrive but other ones take a bit more time. Yeah, well, when you go to work for something that pays off right? That's the stuff that means a lot.

[00:17:37] So when you actually got together and you started actually putting the songs together how natural did that come pretty straightforward? It's kind of like I tried something and then him and I hadn't really hung out alone before.

[00:17:48] I was always with our friend Cal and I was like, this is going to be awkward. And then, yeah, I don't know, Ronnie just whatever he puts over guitar just like works.

[00:17:55] And you spoke of Ted. Ted is also in Just Fine who is not here today. Shall we give Ted his props? Absolutely. We love Ted. Sweet Ted. Do you have a bass player? We do, yeah. There's four people in the band. Ted and Adam.

[00:18:16] So as you were putting the songs together and they're flowing it's amazing what chemistry can do right? It's just like you get random people together. You never know what could happen and all of a sudden you find like some magic if you will right?

[00:18:32] Where it's just like, wow, this is a lot easier than it should be or this feels like even if it's hard, this feels really good. That's how you know you kind of got something to work with and if you get along even better.

[00:18:43] If you're neighbors, I guess you got to get along. All right. So I guess you started recording some music now in 2022 you released an EP called Sinkerswim. Which I read was recorded live off the floor.

[00:18:57] So you could get like a real live kind of sound out of it. I find today's music is all like broken up right? It's recorded individually. I love both approaches and they're both so different. And feel is everything, I don't know.

[00:19:15] How was the actual sessions when you were recording it? Were there like one takes or were there? Pretty much and then we ended up going most of the time with like the first take. Especially with a lot of your vocals which like we just, yeah.

[00:19:30] I think the only downside to that is just like it's cool that it's live off the floor and everything sounds very live but I don't know. As someone who sings you hear those little ups and you're like, oh that's hot. I hear all my, can we swear?

[00:19:50] I hear all my fuck ups. I was f-up so I tried hard there. No no it's fine it's like I said this is an open forum but I mean say what you want to say.

[00:20:00] Yeah I find with the digital edge you can and like Pro Tools or like I use a software called Reason where you can do individual tracks and literally you could make it so perfect that it almost becomes too perfect.

[00:20:13] Live off the floor can go either way too it could be emotionally absolutely, you know. And then the second half of the song you kind of flub it is like ah right and yeah it's hard to go back and repair it right?

[00:20:29] I think what bothers me most about Live Off The Floor for like the songs that we have out are the, it's just how one chorus doesn't sound exactly the same as the next one when the vocals specifically. That's what drives me insane.

[00:20:41] The verses is like whatever it should be different but there's... I can't unhear all the little fuck ups I made in like in Synchro Swim like the first little guitar part but it's so no one would ever hear them basically.

[00:20:54] Um I think it's brave though to do something like that and if you do hear the little kind of the little flubs in there or stuff you don't like and you release it anyway because that is,

[00:21:04] it really is a true presentation of probably what you sound like live. So if people listen to it and they like it and then they go see you live they're going to be happy,

[00:21:15] you know with the product that you're giving to them and I think it is brave. I think nowadays because we have the technology to break it down and perfect everything so it's this shiny orb of perfectness.

[00:21:27] You know what's wrong with a little bit of like you know a little squeak here or a little pop there. I think it's awesome. I think it's really great. You took it to Dave Draves at Little Bullhorn. Hell yeah we did.

[00:21:40] That's our jam space that's still where we jam every day. I have no Dave, my, that Armistake band I was telling you about we started recording our second record there on the two inch tape. Oh yeah. Yeah on his machine there? Yeah it's cool right? The analog machine.

[00:21:59] But we ended up going to a different producer who we recorded our first album with. It was just a big flip flop. It had nothing to do against Little Bullhorn it just timing money all this stuff. But we had a great time there. Little Bullhorn.

[00:22:15] I guess you played shows based off of the EP so you had like an EP release and all that stuff. We did that at Cafe de Cuff. Cool. How did it go? Did you get a chance to take to the live sound? Did they actually enjoy it?

[00:22:33] Well I think the first show we had was just family and friends coming out for the most part. Yeah. I think we said this we always give a shout out to Jik aka Jack. Sub Jack. Sub Jack.

[00:22:49] But yeah the second show I think we played he had message us was like hey do you need any photos done? And then he was kind of the one when he came to see our show was like oh I listened to your music

[00:22:59] but I wasn't expecting it to be kind of this when I saw it live. And then he's the one who got us to do the our first maybe a bigger show like the neighborhood noise. Yeah. It was like a New Year's Eve show. Yeah.

[00:23:15] And then yeah so he kind of introduced us to everyone realistically. Cool. You've definitely come a long way in a short time especially from the very first show playing in front of your family and friends to what you got coming up which we'll get to in a minute.

[00:23:28] Thank you very much. But what a great segue what a great segue to play a just fine song off of Sinkerswim would you like to play a song? Not actually play a song would you like to hear a song? Yeah I guess. Can you introduce one?

[00:23:42] Oh yeah okay at Sinkerswim off the B. B Sinkerswim. Alright you heard it that is Salin from Just Fine introducing Sinkerswim right here on Eagle and Vice.

[00:24:49] Yeah.

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[00:25:55] Yeah.

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[00:27:48] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So as I was saying before we listened to Sinkerswim from playing in front of family and friends you've done a lot since then.

[00:29:39] I was looking again with my research I was looking back you've had shows at Live on Elgin the Brass Monkey Bar Robo Avant Garde the Rainbow just to say a few. You have a big I think it's like a festival at Club Saw side by side coming up.

[00:29:53] Like how is the growth been like that's a long way to go in two years.

[00:29:59] Yeah I think the most important part and we kind of chatted about before we hopped on the interview was just how bumping the scene is right now and just being able to go out and meet people and support all the other bands.

[00:30:13] And I think that's kind of it at the end of the day.

[00:30:17] Yeah I think I use the term community a lot like a music community here on the podcast a lot and it's true and we were talking off Mike about how scenes kind of do kind of go in peaks and valleys where they're really strong and really alive

[00:30:34] and then they'll kind of level off a little bit and then they'll come again. And right now from my 25 years in Ottawa this is equivalent if not even a little bit more than as alive and electric as I've seen the auto music scene. That's so fucking awesome.

[00:30:52] Yeah and one of the things that I did touch on to it sometimes like there's always bands there's always musicians right. They're all talented they're all doing the same thing as everyone else is like promoting promoting trying to get their name out writing songs jamming playing shows.

[00:31:10] But for some reason I think the peaks and valleys come from the crowds the people that want to see music again and in the odds as I was talking about Grandpa Simpson's odds it was a very big peak in like the mid odds mid 2002 to nine.

[00:31:25] It kind of leveled off in the teens and now back in the 20s after the pandemic it's the crowds they I think they I think you miss it.

[00:31:33] You just like wow that was taken away live music and now there's just so it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't hurt that these bands are really good too. You know what I mean. It gives me hope that guitars and drums are still important out there.

[00:31:53] You know what I mean. People up on stage actually making music instead of plus pressing buttons no disrespect anybody who presses buttons for their musical living what do you what do you what's your opinion on that as far as the scene goes.

[00:32:05] I think the scene has been probably one of the best things in our lives.

[00:32:09] I think we're like the happiest we've ever been yet to really really good community and I think it also shows to you like when you I don't know for me anyways I'm really nervous before every show and most people know that but whenever whenever like your scene friendship.

[00:32:23] I show up and they're there in the front I feel so much better so yeah I don't know it's a it's a really it's a really awesome community to be a part of right now.

[00:32:32] Yeah I think if everyone supports each other then you have the confidence and you almost want to like do good for them right and just everyone's so friendly everyone's just like a good friend you know so it's yeah it's really nice.

[00:32:44] We all have music in common so it's like.

[00:32:46] Yeah it's like a mutual it's like I said it's a community we all thought we all have that one thing in common how could we not you know we not have something to talk about or get along or be cool with each other and.

[00:32:57] No no jealousy no envy just everyone helping each other out and that's that's awesome you know and that's pretty organic and sometimes that's pretty rare so you know I know there's peaks and valleys.

[00:33:14] Peaks always end up valing so I don't mean this in any negative way enjoy it while it's here you might look back on this as the best one of the best times of your life because it. Oh I already do I think.

[00:33:26] And we always call out Tom our friend Tom every single time for on a podcast or something that Ottawa what did he say called it Ottawa is the city of empty green rooms. Yeah. We love Tom. Hey Tom.

[00:33:43] So you kept recording after the E.P. sinker swim you released a couple of singles Blue Eyes in 2023 and then most recently more recently felt like I do in 2024 how was the recording process with that did you do it live off the floor again or did you.

[00:34:00] Not this time you went. Yeah where did where did you record those songs.

[00:34:05] So Blue Eyes we recorded it with our main man Steph from kick me records he produced that song for us and so stoked with how it turned out it's like I don't know he did such a wicked job and we recorded at Jeff Watkins. At Loretta.

[00:34:29] Yeah a little bit more sorry about that yeah at Loretta studios and we did that in a weekend.

[00:34:36] Super fun experience but them to those are really fun weekend that was the studio I guess I guess Jeff like lives there but it was just like a super cool place to be. Hang on spending the weekend there recording.

[00:34:47] Do you have a lot of songs are you avid writers do you write a lot or is it kind of a song by song process like when you play shows you must have more than. Yeah we've got.

[00:35:00] Yeah like the newer song that we put out this year in March we recorded that with Mickey a.k.a. plastic farmer and yeah that one we're really excited about super happy with how that turned out like couldn't be happier and we're actually going to be able to do that.

[00:35:17] Yeah we're actually recording an album with them. I think we're starting is it November that we put that in the calendar yeah in the fall we're going to record the whole thing. Yeah so really excited about that one and we're going to record at Pebble.

[00:35:33] Pebble Studios yeah that's where Mickey works now.

[00:35:37] Yeah recording is had this debate before where it's just like what do you think is with today's listener with people say people don't have as long attention spans but I think if you're really interested in some you can pay attention into it says the guy with ADHD but.

[00:35:58] How do you feel between an album and singles. What do you prefer. Oh and what do you think is a better presentation like to really stuff.

[00:36:09] I like I feel like they both have their purpose I think I I don't know when in more recent years I've kind of been obsessed with just listening to full album so I'm pretty excited about having an album I think it's like a crazy thing to have I think yeah.

[00:36:24] And it'll be nice to just kind of like put this chapter.

[00:36:28] Yeah songs behind us and really start working on the next album you know yeah because we have a lot of like some of the songs that will be on the album or like you know we wrote this year and then some of them are older than that EP.

[00:36:41] So like our second yeah song we ever wrote so I'm hoping they still sound okay together on an album but yeah.

[00:36:50] Yeah I think I'm on your side too when it comes to like like full albums I think back in the day that's how the music was made you know what I mean it was just like it weren't concept albums but it's like they're put together.

[00:37:04] They're all written somewhat in the same time period and their sequence on the record the way they are it's like tells a story you know and this is the way the artist wanted us to listen to these 10 songs or 12 songs.

[00:37:16] And with the digital format where it's just you can just drop a single out you know what I mean and there's no liner notes there's nothing to read except for just the name.

[00:37:26] I don't know the name of songs anymore you know what I mean because it's just you're so used to just like oh it's number four on my playlist. I don't know what it's called you know and it's a shame that that's happened.

[00:37:36] I remember the good days the good old days if you will have like purchasing like a full album and reading the notes and all that stuff and then you know it's a shame that that's kind of gotten lost in the digital.

[00:37:50] Yeah for all its for all its conveniences technology sometimes kind of leaves a lot kind of on the cutting room floor as they say right. Like soul. Yeah I'm pretty excited to have like a just have a hard copy of vinyl.

[00:38:09] Are you actually going to make hard copies. Yeah. Oh we should definitely. Well even if even if we don't make a bunch of vinyls I'm making one for myself. I want one.

[00:38:20] There's a there's a company in out of Chicago I have a link to it somewhere where you they'll actually make you like to order like they'll make you one record if you want incredible. Really.

[00:38:31] You probably pay cost it'll probably cost a fortune but at least you'll have it. Don't care any price. Yeah that's right but yeah if you want one for each you make four I'd like four please. So that that's pretty cool.

[00:38:43] As far as the shows go what is side by side that's like it's kind of like a little three day sort of a festival. Yeah I think I think they'd call it a festival. It's really awesome. Anthony puts it on.

[00:38:58] Yeah I went last year for the first time and it's it's a the set up is really cool so they have a stage inside at song and they have the outside one as well. And it's it's a lot of local music with some out of town bands.

[00:39:11] Yeah yeah quite a few. But yeah the way it's set up is really cool so it'll be like a 20 minutes inside and then as soon as that's done is a 20 minutes start starting outside and back and forth back and forth.

[00:39:21] So it's like a super fun way to kind of catch a band. For sure for sure.

[00:39:25] I was reading the lineup and there's a lot of a lot of great bands on that for sure that I've seen a lot of bands that have been on the podcast and everyone all the listeners that is Sunday. No I guess it's Friday Saturday Sunday.

[00:39:38] Yeah we're on July twenty six seventh and eight side by side at SA and just fine is on Sunday. But they'll be there. They'll be there walking around what supporting so that's good definitely do that.

[00:39:53] Do you have any plans or anything to tour do you want to play out of town like what's what's the what's the what's the game like what's the game plan is what I was trying to say for just fine for the future.

[00:40:09] We don't we've never gone on a tour yet it's something that we want to do for sure it seems seems fun. We just played Montreal. Yeah couple days ago.

[00:40:17] Yeah I think we're with the album we're going to like once that's out we're hoping to do like a little yeah a week long tour maybe.

[00:40:25] Yeah I think that's I think those are the best way to do it especially for where we live to like you think tour and it's not like oh we're going to go to the all the way to the West Coast it's like who's got time and money and to do that really as an independent band all the power to do it if you want to just give her but we'll have to discuss we'll have to all take the same week off.

[00:40:44] But for where we are if you do like Sherbrooke, Quebec City Montreal Kingston Toronto Peterborough back to Ottawa that's to her in my eyes you know what I mean and it's not it's not super super far yeah but you're leaving out like Branford.

[00:41:00] Yeah we're going to go more I think more on the stick. Hamilton. Well next tour. There you go lots of little towns Ontario that's the thing too Ontario is full of little places to play.

[00:41:10] So what's next for just fine how do you foresee you said you're recording in November. How does the rest of the year look. Yeah I mean yeah pretty crazy I feel like we've been we've had shows kind of nonstop for the last few years.

[00:41:28] But now yeah side by side it's kind of the last thing in the books for a bit and then we're going to do the album hopefully do a little tour. I'm kind of assuming in like May or June. I'm hoping no our timeline is.

[00:41:43] Yeah it's going to come out in June. Okay well sometime in a year from now but yeah yeah I don't know the I don't really know I think one of our main goals is to maybe play at the Bronson Center this year that'd be really fucking cool.

[00:41:57] So 2025 is going to be a huge year for just fine new records coming out lots shows. Possible tour so I'm super excited for you and I wish you nothing but success.

[00:42:10] Is there any thank yous or show notes you want to give to anybody that has helped you out along the way to the whole scene. That's all I'm going to say love them and everyone who comes to see us to play it's like you guys are the scene.

[00:42:23] The scene. The scene people in the bands and not in the band all the scenes. Perfect so I have a game it's called 13 questions with the band. Would you like to play. Yeah time for 13 questions with the band.

[00:42:38] Yes this segment's back again it's called 13 questions but I only asked six maybe five. Okay this is 13 questions with just fine. You can answer these questions however you'd like but I'm going to ask each of you individually.

[00:42:54] So what was the first concert you ever saw as a fan. Sam Roberts fans where when Prince Edward Island. I feel like it was probably 2006 or something. Ronnie same question Ozzy Osbourne with actually Ted. Okay in 1996 at back then I think it was the Correll Center.

[00:43:21] Aha yeah it's been many things. 96 that was a pretty good Ozzy year I think. Yeah it was after the No More Tears. I think he was still on a ton of drugs then so he probably put on a pretty good show.

[00:43:35] I was hoping to see Zach Wilde play and he didn't he wasn't playing guitar on that tour I was so bummed. Yeah he's one of those like super guitar players he's playing he's in the he's in the Pantera.

[00:43:46] I don't even know what you want to call it cover band now. Anyway Salin what is your favorite song today. Loud Bark Mannequin Pussy right now. That's fucking good that album is so good. Bull Believer Wednesday my favorite song today today.

[00:44:11] As the wind blows what is your desert island record if you got trapped on a desert island for 10 years or something you only had one record you could bring. You go first. Never mind Nirvana. Oh comes back around. I'm gonna have to do the same.

[00:44:38] You're gonna say same or bleach I'm gonna go bleach. Bleach. You're gonna say it in the Cobanes. Good. What is your favorite rainy day music when you're feeling down. Today. Well sure. Okay in general. I'll just go with the classic Phoebe Bridgers or some Sarah McLaughlin you know.

[00:45:04] What's that album is it called Surrender of the Black Cover. The good album yeah that was that with like a. A. Building a mystery yeah. That's a classic good Canadian artist too by the way. Yeah Sarah McLaughlin. She's a legend. Pink Floyd. Rainy day songs of Pink Floyd.

[00:45:27] All right what do you listen to to pick you back up. Today Mannequin Pussy that album I forget what it's called. It's so good. Oh man today. Hey God. I've been listening to a lot of Tom Petty to cheer me up lately so maybe that's my answer.

[00:45:51] And I'm free fun. No what's the other I won't back down anyway. When you listen to music what do you hear first the music or the lyrics. What kind of grabs you in a song. It means the vocals are not necessarily the lyrics but just like the way.

[00:46:07] The words feel of the sound of the vocals. I listen to the like the guitar for sure. The guitar is to the core.

[00:46:18] I find that it's it's kind of neat like musicians with their particular instruments because I've had that before where a drummer would say beat man listen the drums if you're a good drummer I love you I love the song doesn't matter what anyone else is doing it's just like singers are always like I like the words.

[00:46:34] But you know it's true at a live show I'm mesmerized by the drummer like I really can take my eyes off the drummer.

[00:46:41] Yeah it's one of those things if you see a great drummer or just even if it just sounds good if they're really enthusiastic and like emote drumming. It's the best.

[00:46:53] Okay if you had a time machine and you could go back to any moment in music history any moment in music history where would you go. I'm going to Seattle in the 90s. I want to see Nirvana play. That's it. Yeah 1991 baby.

[00:47:13] So I'm sensing that we're some pretty big Nirvana fans. Okay very good. Well here you go. Who would just find love to open for. Maybe existing maybe band that's still bad. No are we dreaming big how big are we dreaming here. Sky's limit.

[00:47:38] Okay well who am I obsessed with right now Indigo to Sousa I think that would be insane or always. I don't know. There's too many. We'd love to open for anyone please anyone take us. Alright who would you like to have open for you. Oh we can open.

[00:47:56] Yeah we don't mind opening. That's awesome. It's like no we're good. We're comfortable. Alright a couple more. If you could have a drink or a meal or something with any one in your like any artist that's inspired you who would it be. Dead or alive. Dead or alive.

[00:48:21] You can even make someone up. Kurt Cobain or John Lennon. Nobody wants to have lunch with Dave Grohl. Honestly I fucking love Dave Grohl. But no I'm going Kurt Cobain. But maybe Dave Grohl.

[00:48:38] I think Dave Grohl like Kurt Cobain was like a super legendary amazing songwriting icon but I think Dave Grohl would just be a better conversation.

[00:48:48] The funniest guy ever like I don't listen to any like foo fighters or anything but I regularly just look up videos of Dave Grohl doing things. Doing things. I wonder if anyone ever picks the bassist. Chris? Chris Novoselic. Oh Chris Novoselic yeah. That tall guy.

[00:49:12] Do you remember I think it was like the much music or no the empty video video video awards when Nirvana was playing and at the very end of the song Chris Novoselic threw his bass up in the air. Yeah.

[00:49:25] And he missed it and it slipped through his hands and clunked him right in the fucking forehead and he kind of staggered off stage and he came out later and he had the big like throbbing hematoma. Hematoma. Yeah it was like what. Anyway.

[00:49:42] Okay final question with 13 questions with just fine. Wait that wasn't 13 questions. I'm not I'm not I don't know how this is my show. I don't have to explain myself who is just fine. Ronnie take it away. We don't fucking know. We're figuring it out.

[00:50:07] Maybe we'll have an answer for you after this album. We're openers. That's good. All right with that being said I want to thank you for coming on ego advice. It was a pleasure getting to know you likewise. Yeah thanks. Very funny conversation.

[00:50:22] And I wish you nothing but the best and maybe come back on once the album drops as they say. Yeah. Cool. All right so thanks again. Thank you. Yeah.

[00:52:04] Yeah.

[00:53:07] All right that is the end of episode 138. I'd like to thank Celine and Ronnie for coming on just fine. Great band big future tons of success so keep an eye out even you're out.

[00:53:42] If you want to get a hold of me you can always reach me at egoinviceatgmail.com if you want to listen to the podcast as always I always direct you to my home base. My HQ egoinvicepodcast.com has links to everything you want to find that is egoinvice.

[00:53:58] Other than that I think I got one episode left and then I'm taking my summer break so it's been a heck of a heck of a half year and I'll continue on in August but who knows

[00:54:10] there might be another episode popping up you never know as the wind blows so does my plans change. We'll see. See you next time. No problem.