Episode 137: Passenger Princess

[00:00:00] Just like the white winged dove, sings a song that sounds like she's singing. Ooh, ooh, ooh. Just like the white winged dove, sings a song that sounds like she's singing. Give me fuel, give me fire, give me that which I desire.

[00:00:24] Tonight, I'm just for the day to love the same. Mamma mia, here I go again. Mamma, how can I resist you? Mamma mia, does it show again? Mamma, just how much I miss you. If you're gonna scream, scream with me. I'll make that feel neverland.

[00:00:57] I'm at the scene. It's two in the afternoon and 34 degrees. The Queensland harsh summer heat. I be sweating buckets up and down the street. Life's on my own, so live my own way. Life's on my own, so live my own way.

[00:01:27] It'll all make sense in the end, I promise. Just stick with it. This is episode 137, Ego and Vice. You got a real attitude problem McFlyer, you're a slacker. Since I was a teammate, lower class punk ass, I was Northwood grade. It ain't around no-

[00:03:01] Stay hydrated, as they say. I drink a lot of coffee. I think it's still liquid. Probably not good in the heat, but you know, I'm still here. I'm making it, so I hope you are too. What's going on? The new GOAT record is going to be out.

[00:03:18] It's dropping. June 27th. That's in like next week. Wow, shit. Yeah, I've been working on this record for about three years, four years. Who knows? Just been plugging away at it. There was no real urgency for it, so I figured I'd take my time.

[00:03:35] I wanted to release it in December, but then it's like letting your captive birds, opening the door and letting them fly away. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready to watch them fly away at these songs.

[00:03:48] Now I just want it out of there so I can kind of move on with my life. So I put it out, and you're all going to get to hear it. So yeah, just follow GOAT. Go to Spotify. Hope you like it.

[00:04:00] It's a bit of a labor of love, and it's also been a pain in my ass. So enjoy that both ways. Today on the podcast I have an awesome punk rock band based out of Ottawa. They are called Passenger Princess.

[00:04:18] Gaining a lot of traction, a lot of buzz in town. They've only been around for a short time, but wow, success is what's happening for sure. And they're really making a name for themselves. Vic, Grace, Corey and Kaden came down to Southwood Studio. We had a great conversation.

[00:04:38] We learned everything about Passenger Princess. We played some songs, played some games, and we had a good time. Had some laughs. And that's what it's all about on a hot summer day. I think. Anyway, I'm going to play a song by Passenger Princess.

[00:04:53] It's one of my favorites that they play. It's called Parking Ticket. Now we're going to come back with the band. Passenger Princess, Parking Ticket, Ego and Vice.

[00:06:43] Hey, we're back. This is Ego and Vice. This is episode 137. As promised in the intro, I am sitting here with four members of the local band Passenger Princess. I'm sitting here with Corey, Kaden, Grace and Vic. How's everybody doing? Pretty good. It's great that...

[00:07:27] Oh, everyone's still saying hello. Hello, hello. I don't mean to cut off hellos by any means. I'm glad that you came out. I heard OC Transpo sucks and I heard some buzz around Passenger Princess. I'm going to get to all that.

[00:07:44] But first of all, let's go around the circle. Introduce yourself, what you do in the band. And my question for the week is, in your own opinion, what is the most influential punk band out there? Starting with... Oh man. My name is Vic. I play the bass.

[00:08:06] Most influential punk band. There's so many old ones to choose from. Can you come back to me for this one? You have to say pass. Okay, I'll pass. There you go. Okay. My name is Grace and I sing in the band.

[00:08:23] This is maybe not necessarily the most influential punk band ever, which is your question. So I'm not going to answer it very accurately. But to me, I love the replacements and they actually influenced so many bands and they don't get enough credit for it.

[00:08:37] So I'm trying to write that wrong. That's cool. I accept that answer. Absolutely. My name is Kaden. I play guitar and kind of a basic answer. But for most important punk band, I'd probably go with the Ramones. But most important current punk band, I would say the Chats.

[00:08:58] Chats. Legendary. My name is Corey. I play the drums and my answer got stolen by Kaden. I was going to say the Ramones, but I will say the Misfits instead because like you see it everywhere. The original Misfits or the 1994 remade kind of Misfits? There's a right answer.

[00:09:22] Is the 94 one the Michael Graves one? It is. Okay, then Danzig. All right. Almost had to throw them out already. Anyway, so thank you so much for coming. I really wanted to have you on. I'm really happy that you're here. Let's talk about Passenger Princess now.

[00:09:38] As far as I could go back, I try and do some research on local bands, but it's hard to find. With social media, you have a bunch of different things you can find, but it's not like there's extensive bios and stuff like that.

[00:09:50] So that's why Eagle and Vice exists for your fans, for people who don't know who you are, to tell your story. So why don't we start at the beginning? Who wants to start at the beginning?

[00:09:59] Well, it started off with me and Kaden because we started working at a restaurant that's closed down now called Christie's back in like 2016. I think it was.

[00:10:11] And like I told him I like I saw him wearing a Metallica shirt or something and I realized that he played guitar. And then I told him I play drums and it was always like, oh, we got to get together. Like, let's jam.

[00:10:23] And then I think it was like until after Covid we started. Yeah, I think it was twenty twenty one. We started had to convince my parents to let Corey bring his drum kit over. And yeah, then we just started. It was just me and him for a while.

[00:10:41] I think a couple couple months. It was just me and him. We wrote a few songs together. Have you ever seen that commercial?

[00:10:49] I don't know. It's like a meme or it's like maybe I even saw it when I was watching the hockey game the other night with the two metalheads that meet in the convenience store where they're just buying beer and they turn and look at each other.

[00:10:58] And they're both ones wearing like Iron Maiden shirt and ones wearing like a quiet ride shirt and they just like stare stare into each other's eyes and they go off in his dreams sequence where they're like having a picnic together. It was such a meat cute for them.

[00:11:09] That's just average trip to beer king. Imagine that. But if we were both in a dish pit at a restaurant. Yeah, the dish pit. Bacon bits flying everywhere. Yeah, scrambled egg. Okay. So so you got the two piece together. What influenced like the first bit of writing?

[00:11:30] Was it was it just cover stuff you were doing or did you actually have some songs that you wanted to work out or I mean for passing your princess? I don't think it was covers at all.

[00:11:39] Like we maybe like jam Misfits together but it was mostly like the same thing with like our writing process. We you get a you get a riff and then I just put drums over it and we just kind of go from there.

[00:11:55] Yeah, I think like the very first practice we tried playing Seek and Destroy by Metallica and it didn't go too well. So so we just started writing our own songs because that was that was easier. That's usually the best way to go about it.

[00:12:09] You know, I find like I've said this before. I hate playing covers just because I think I like just butcher them. They just never sound right in my mind. So I just write my own songs because you know, I do those really well.

[00:12:21] I also find it just way easier to play complicated stuff that I've written than to try and learn something complicated that someone else has written. Yeah, that's fair. Or unless you're completely changing the cover and making it your own.

[00:12:33] If you're just doing it the exact same way that it's been performed, it can kind of be a little bit. I don't know. I guess if you love the song, I guess you could do that.

[00:12:41] But if you have that kind of creativity, you want to just put it into your own thing. Put it in a blender. Yeah. Anyway, but it's a good guide, I guess. So how long were you two piece? And when did everybody else start? Kaden, you take this.

[00:12:53] Start moving in. So, yeah, we were two piece for probably a few months. And then we invited our original bass player to come jam with us. And then it was the three of us for a few months.

[00:13:08] And then she knew Grace and then Grace came and started jamming with us. And then that's kind of when like the band actually formed. Yeah. And then it didn't work out with our original bass player. So then we got Vic in the winter this year. We got Vic.

[00:13:27] So that's how we are here now. Cool. And how was the experience of joining up with these two guys? Okay, honestly, really scary. Not that they're like terrifying. They're super sweet guys. Grace is just shitting herself. I just showed up and I was like, oh, hang on.

[00:13:50] It's actually not to do anything with their personalities. I had never sung punk before or anything loud or abrasive. I was in choir my whole high school experience. And even growing up, I took singing lessons and like it would be covers of Ella Fitzgerald or Ed Sheeran.

[00:14:09] And so then when when my friend said you should come jam with us, I was like, I just sing. That doesn't mean I can sing punk, you know? But anyways, the first couple of practices, I was really shy. I wasn't singing.

[00:14:23] I was kind of just like humming along. They were super nice about it. And then once I broke out of that fear that you can't sing punk, it's too out of your range, out of your wheelhouse, then it got really easy and really fun.

[00:14:36] And we also just vibed super well together. Yeah. Well, man, punk rock, that's what it does, right? It breaks you out of your shell a bit.

[00:14:42] Some of the influences that are some of the ones people that you said that you used to sing like Ella Fitzgerald, Ed Sheeran, like they're all controlled really, I guess I'll call them really great singers. How was it? Technical ability is really good.

[00:14:56] Was that hard to break out of or did you just like grip it and rip it in there? It was hard to break out of. Yeah, because at first I was like... You were trying to sing them? Yeah. Yeah.

[00:15:05] And then I realized you can't really sing like, OK, I was going to say the misfits, but Glenn Danzig has a beautiful Elvis voice, so that's a bit of a different comparison.

[00:15:13] But like even in some of their songs, like he lets loose, you know, because we really started off doing misfits. We might come back to this later, but our first show, show in air quotes was in my basement for a Halloween party that I was hosting.

[00:15:25] And we just did misfits songs. See, my answer, misfits. There you go. It all comes back to that. But yeah, no, so it was kind of... I was trying to sing and then I realized you can't really... It's a different kind of singing completely. For sure.

[00:15:39] I find in punk, yeah, just because you scream it or yell it or however, there's still a lot of control and there's still a lot of melody in punk too. For sure. That just because you don't... Well, I guess you can, you just scream your head off.

[00:15:51] But you know what I mean? There's a lot of room for musicality and melody and technique. And some of my favorite... But it's also really fun because you don't have to be so controlled, you know? Yeah, you're letting loose.

[00:16:03] Yeah, some of my favorite Passenger Princess songs are the ones where we do have a lot of melody in them. Like, Arson Girl comes to mind. You know? I really like the chorus in that one because I find it is very melodic. It flows a lot.

[00:16:16] It's not just one note, which is nice. Yeah, I agree. Honestly, like Switchblade too, even though it's a little screamier, there's a lot of melody. True. Okay. And Vic, apparently you don't play bass, you just swing from the rafters. That's what's going on there.

[00:16:32] I swing from the rafters like a bat. I'm kind of like a gargoyle, I guess. An abiding gargoyle. Yes, exactly. Yeah, I mean, joining was really... I don't know.

[00:16:49] It felt a little daunting at first because I showed up not really knowing the songs because I learned by playing and by ear. So it was like before the jam, it was really, really daunting.

[00:17:04] But then kind of like as time went on, it was a lot more comfortable because we all get along very well. I've been in bands since late 2021, so I've kind of been around and I don't know.

[00:17:20] It was just very easy to kind of like get in there and then learn the songs. Obviously, like as time went on. Right. And I think if you love what you're doing too and you really want something to work, you'll make it work.

[00:17:36] You'll find a way to work. And if you're working with cool people, that makes it that much easier. If the environment's right, just loosen up and just not be afraid to play something and just like, I'll try this. Who knows? Maybe it'd be good.

[00:17:49] When it's a good fit, yeah, you just get really lucky. Yeah, chemistry in a band and any type of band, punk, rock, anything is super, super important. If you don't have chemistry, then you don't really have much.

[00:18:02] Just like your band, especially a punk band, is only as good as their drummer. Well, in that case. It's true. We're awesome. I argue I'm honestly not good, but a lot of people... Corey, respectfully shut up. Okay. Everyone else disagrees with you objectively. Yeah. You're wrong.

[00:18:21] Yeah, you're solid. You're a good drummer. Thank you. That was what I noticed first when I listened to the sneak EP that was sent to me that I didn't hear all of. I mean, that doesn't exist yet. I guess it does exist anyway.

[00:18:32] Before we get to that, O.C. Transpo sucks. I found a quote that says the most influential, sorry, most influential Ottawa's number one anti-buss punk rock. What the fuck am I talking about?

[00:18:48] Yeah, that's just something that I made up because we tried applying for Blues Fest and we needed a Facebook page. And then I think our Instagram was like just some friends making punk rock or something. And I'm like, no, that's way too basic.

[00:19:04] It needs to be something special. So I'm sorry. I'm just going to Instagram right now. Yeah, Ottawa's number one anti-buss punk rock because... Okay, there we go. I don't know. We put O.C.

[00:19:15] Transpo out as like our first single and like don't want to try to corner a market or anything, but nobody else is screaming about Ottawa's shitty public transit system. So we might as well do it.

[00:19:26] Well, one thing to write a protest song about like a public service that's not working. It's another thing to like specifically target your municipal government, which is great. In some way. Go ahead. Because O.C.

[00:19:40] Transpo is like known for just like not being reliable and continuously like jacking up the prices for continuously unreliable service, which... 385. Yeah, that's too much. Ridiculous. Well, it's a great punk song and it's direct to the point.

[00:20:03] And it's like you're sticking it to the man, I guess, as they say, or fight the power. I have a friend who used to work at O.C. Transpo. Oh, sorry. And we call he always called it the dirty O.C. Hated his life. Hated his life, honestly.

[00:20:18] And he eventually we get I work for a different company and I got a good reference for him and he actually moved over. He was there for almost 10 years at that job like a city job. Yeah.

[00:20:28] You said he could have retired there, but he said I'm getting out. Can't do it. I have another friend who's actually a musician in town who was a bus driver. He posted on like online him his his resignation letter or some shit.

[00:20:41] And he like threw it in the fire like right on thing. He's like, never again. Wow. That's insane. And you know, like the thing is our beef isn't with the bus drivers because a lot of them are super nice.

[00:20:53] I mean, some of some of those people who've got a job. Exactly. Yeah, we really don't think that they're part of the issue unless they're the rude ones that drive past you when you're like, no, let me on.

[00:21:04] But most of them are super chill and it's just to do with the system. You know, the system sucks. Apparently, it's a pretty toxic environment there as well. And I'm not I'm not shitting on individual people. I'm just saying is the giant corporation that is the dirty OC.

[00:21:18] Yeah, you got to you got to do better. Well, and I remember like quite a while ago when they're like a lot of the reason for like delays and like bus cancellations was because they were mandated to give their drivers their brakes.

[00:21:31] Wow. Like I think that was when I was in college, that was like what was going around on the news was like everything is slow because the union is enforcing the brakes for the drivers now. Right.

[00:21:42] And I just can't think of like any other major city in Ottawa where it would be acceptable to have a form of transportation that does not do what it's supposed to do. If the transportation system in Toronto was like it is here, the city would break down.

[00:21:55] It wouldn't function. You know, and I think it's just ridiculous that in the capital of Canada, it takes an hour to get from one side of the city to the other. I mean, like especially with the weather that we get, it's ridiculous.

[00:22:06] And sometimes so like the terrible infrastructure for walking and the terrible infrastructure of like how the bus stops are set up and how inaccessible they are for some people. It's just kind of insane that the entire thing keeps evolving the way it does.

[00:22:21] Did you get any like traction or any reaction from that song from anybody? Like that in the powers that be? Oh, no. Well, we haven't gotten sued yet and like we have t-shirts of O.C. Transport Socks.

[00:22:37] Yeah. So that's a win that every day we don't get sued is a really good day because we're waiting. We're waiting for it. But they just don't care. They just don't care. Probably they don't have enough money.

[00:22:45] They're like, you got to get ridership up before we could sue these fuckers. They'll wait till you make some money. Then they'll come after you. Yes. When they get out of all the debt they've put themselves in for LRT.

[00:22:55] I always say sometimes the best thing that can work. Sometimes the worst thing that can happen is you get sued. Sometimes the best thing that can happen is you get sued. Right. Local Ottawa band gets sued. Headlines by local Ottawa. Please know not to manifest that. Seth Meyers.

[00:23:08] That would be sick. So who wrote that song? Well, like a joint effort for a joint effort. We cut like we write our songs very communally. Yeah.

[00:23:22] If you look at the songwriting credits on Spotify, we all get we all get equal credit, you know, because everyone contributes different things, whether it's lyrics or riffs or bass lines, drum parts. Like we all have our own forte, though. Definitely.

[00:23:35] Cool. So in the liner notes, all songs by Passenger Princess. Yeah, that's how Queen does it. And I think that's the right way to do it. Yeah. Yeah. You can't start pulling the big eagle thing. This is my song and that's his song. Exactly.

[00:23:48] Just like tragically him too. Yeah, I think so. It's like even if you bring the words, they change to the music. It's all it's all like a yeah, it's a band like why are you in a band if you're billing yourself like a solo artist? Exactly.

[00:24:01] You did it together. Even if I wrote the lyrics, it's like would this song exist if Kayden hadn't, you know, fed me this riff or et cetera. Like no, it wouldn't have.

[00:24:10] What better segue at this point in the podcast talking about OC Transpo sucks than to play OC Transpo sucks. Let's do it. Would you like to give it an actual intro? Come on, Kayden. Speaking to the microphone. You need to get some airtime. Let's get it, Kayden.

[00:24:29] Say OC Transpo sucks. OC Transpo sucks. This is OC Transpo sucks. By Passenger Princess. Right here on Ego and Vice.

[00:24:39] A dictionary I found online defines a passenger, a passenger princess as a pretty girl that has no other job but to look pretty in the passenger seat while her sneaky significant other drives. Yeah. Does that does that make sense to you? Well, in our case.

[00:26:04] Yeah, in our case, the girls are the only ones. We're the ones that can drive. We've got the passenger princes over here. Yeah. So that's kind of that's where the name comes from.

[00:26:14] Actually, we came we came up with it about like just just before we did our first show and because at the time our former basses couldn't drive. Yeah, originally, I was the only one who could drive. It was supposed to be grace and the passenger princesses.

[00:26:28] But I think we I'm pretty sure it was. At least I said it once and then maybe maybe nobody listened to me. But Corey spoke at once. So it happened. Yeah, yeah, it was it was never meant to be.

[00:26:42] But that was kind of the irony because I wanted people to assume like, oh, this is a girl singer. She's the passenger princess, you know, but it's actually all of these all of the other musicians that that can't that can't drive.

[00:26:55] But Kayden in his defense is learning he's about to go for his G2. So congratulations. Congratulations. Yeah. So we'll have to change the name. Well, I don't know. I think it's pretty cool. They like sold shirts and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, right.

[00:27:10] It's like what do we get to change our merch? It's too late. I still want to write a song called Passenger Princess, guys. Yes, there's also a hundred percent band in Massachusetts called Passenger Princess that made their Instagram account a day before we did. So yeah.

[00:27:24] So you should see my band Goat. Just Google Goat band. It's like I'm number 54 or something like that. But you guys have the exclamation mark. Yeah, it doesn't matter though. I find punctuation doesn't help you. Doesn't anyway, just in passwords.

[00:27:41] So O.C. Transylux was the song that I noticed kind of sat in your band camp and in your Spotify for a long time. I guess you guys had other songs when you were playing shows and stuff. Yeah. All right.

[00:27:54] So when you're playing shows, how were you received? How did it go off? I heard like I said, I've heard some buzz from this band.

[00:28:02] So I don't think we've played a show where we have gotten off stage and felt really, really bad about ourselves, which is nice because everyone told us starting out, you know, you're going to play bad shows.

[00:28:14] You're going to get off the stage and be like, oh my God, like that was really let down or you're just not going to have a huge turnout. And some shows we didn't have a huge turnout, but it was still good vibes.

[00:28:22] So I'm super grateful that we've never had like a real what's the word? A clunker. Yeah, a stinker. A real stinker. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, like we've played shows that are better than some of our other shows.

[00:28:39] But yeah, like Grace said, there's no show we've played where it's been like, wow, we really suck. And like yet I don't know how many shows we've played, but I think it's been like less than 10 or just about 10. I think Bronson was 10. Yeah.

[00:28:53] And it's like to only play like, I guess, 10 or so shows and then like get to play at the Bronson Center in Ottawa. It's like pretty awesome. Yeah. And that was my first show with them.

[00:29:03] So I was just like, it was like a Wayne's World. We're not worthy. But you fucking killed it. Exactly. Thanks guys. You killed it at the show that I didn't play with you guys that I saw.

[00:29:18] Well, there's lots of energy and traction in Ottawa right now for bands. And I think there's a there's a good spotlight on an eye and an eye for bands that are really kind of making a name.

[00:29:30] And because there's so much going on and everything is so kind of electric in town right now, it's very easy to be seen. You know what I mean? So I haven't seen you guys live yet, but I did watch some YouTube stuff. It looks super fun.

[00:29:44] Love that. Love the tunes. So I can just imagine that would come across. Congratulations on not playing a bad show yet. Yeah, it happens though. And it's OK. But and when it does, it's OK.

[00:29:54] Yes, those are the ones you look back and laugh and learn from. Right? Yeah. Yeah. But if you're killing it now and it's just punk rock and you're just doing it for the fun of it, then how can you play a bad show?

[00:30:02] If you're having fun, how could it be a bad show? That's the thing. We're just always having fun. That's a really good time. So you started recording new music and you have an EP in the works and you've been releasing songs.

[00:30:13] Yeah, there's been a couple out already. Mid-May you release Parking Ticket, which is probably I won't say my favorite song, Passenger Princess song, but it's up there.

[00:30:23] It's got to be like top two. OK. I loved as I was saying off mic, I loved just that one hook because I didn't hear I didn't see it come.

[00:30:32] I got a parking ticket and then it kind of pause for a second. And I'm not going to pay it. I was like, perfect. It's perfect. I said that is the song that needed to be written. And everybody, everybody agrees with that song.

[00:30:44] That's what I thought whenever I saw them before I joined too. I was like that. That that's the line. Everybody. Everyone is going to feel a little tug on the heart because of that song. It's satisfying. Totally. Yeah. Right. That's our my heart will go on.

[00:31:03] And then there was Brat just I guess a couple of weeks ago. Corey loves Brat. That that song is my baby because I feel like I've had the most input in that one.

[00:31:12] OK, cool. And the actual EP, I noticed you have a release an EP release at the Dome on June 21st. And that's when the whole thing is going to come out. Yeah. The PP EP. It's going to come out slightly beforehand.

[00:31:26] I'm not sure. Well, I'm not sure when this episode is going to come out. But I think June, June 18th. So it might be out. It might be out already. Next Tuesday in the future. We also Tuesday. Yeah. This comes out.

[00:31:42] See, these are beautiful things I can edit later. Yeah. Next. I usually record on the Monday and not this Friday, but the following Friday just gives me enough time. Perfect. Nice. So I think it'll be out by then. Yeah, yeah.

[00:31:55] Yeah. You just got to take photos for the artwork and then throw it up on Distro Kid and try to plug it as much as we can. And and these songs, I guess, were the ones that you were playing all along, right?

[00:32:07] Do you have like a big batch of songs that are like I know recording is time and money and everything. Where did you record the new EP? We recorded this with so my uncle used to be Sound Guy for the PM.

[00:32:19] He recently retired after like 40 years of service and one of his friends there, James, recorded us. And he's awesome. He has this great home studio and we just he really understood us.

[00:32:31] And he's got such a rich like resume of all his different like the different things he's recorded. He's done bands. He has done live events, you know, political events. So he is the real deal. And he was just super chill. We really vibe.

[00:32:45] So, yeah, we we were what did we call this studio again? I don't know because he changed it landmine studios. No, it was like landmine and then it was basement landmine. And then he sent a video to us recently. I think it was burnt oxygen.

[00:33:00] OK, so it's one of those. Yeah. And it was going to call it burnt oxygen for now. And yeah, cool. That's like that's like your little secret studio. Yeah. And he we would love to record with him again because he really he got us.

[00:33:14] And who was he? He said he's an uncle. He this is my uncle's friend. Yeah. Did he charge you? Well, my uncle is the best and he paid for us. That's that's the best kind of that's the best kind of recording.

[00:33:27] You got lucky with that one. He is the patron of Passenger Princess. And it's like no, no, no, no, I couldn't. Can I plug him? Absolutely. OK, because he's in a band too. Oh, good. And they're called Power Rage.

[00:33:39] And he won't record your band for free, by the way. Just get that. We have to pay for that. But no, yeah. So he's in a band called Power Rage and they have not started playing shows yet. But it's going to be great.

[00:33:51] And their their lead guitarist is John Ricci from Exciter. Oh, yeah. So just a little promotion name drop and name drop on ego and vice. I tell you, that's what it's all about. We're big time. Cool. So the Dom, you played the Dom before?

[00:34:08] Yes, once the Dirty Dom. We played once as Passenger Princess. I played a few times. I was in a band with my buddy, Matt Spagg. Yeah, well, yeah. Danny Van Cini. We played there a couple of times. Yeah, the Dom is the punk rock bar.

[00:34:24] Like if you want to just go and kind of get kind of get nasty and your feet stick to the floor, go to the Dom. Yeah, records just played there. Yeah, Paul Gott, the very first time I ever played anything, I was I came from Thunder Bay.

[00:34:37] Thunder Bay and my very, very first show, my shitty band opened for the ripcords. That's awesome. That's great. And we did bad religion covers. That's great. Poorly. Worst religion.

[00:34:51] I really appreciate how independent he's kept ripcords and like just how he's still been pushing the way he has since the 80s. I love I love it. You ever been to the track side? I've been wanting to go since I heard about it. Where is the track side?

[00:35:08] Montreal. It's a skate park. Well, like, well, trackside is a very unique place. It's it's it's in this kind of industrial kind of area and it has like a lot of these like houses that a lot of people just kind of squat in.

[00:35:24] And when you get there, you're like, there's no way this is like a venue and you walk around this really kind of weird path and you get in this building, this room. It's big. And then you play punk rock there.

[00:35:35] Those are the best ones where you walk in and get murdered. It's an experience. The very first time I was ever there, it was called the death house. Whoa. Yeah. And it was a fucking it was a fucking yeah bad omen.

[00:35:47] I hear it's very sketchy and death house makes it sound way more sketchy. It's pretty sketchy. We're playing the death house tonight.

[00:35:55] I got nothing against the place or the people that run it or use it to put people on and like put the bet to put put shows on.

[00:36:03] But if you want, like, contact crack high, enjoy, enjoy your evening because shit's floating around that place and you have no idea what it is. So yeah, yeah. Anyway, I might be making that up. I might be making so I might be making some enemies right now.

[00:36:21] You know what it is, though? I think it's almost like, you know, like an ask a punk show. Like, it's almost like that. It's like privately put on. Like, it's not like it's not like a venue like a bar or something.

[00:36:32] Looking at pictures, it looks like a really sick spot because they have like kind of like the upper balcony. It looks like the venue in a Guitar Hero game.

[00:36:40] Yeah, it's one of those things where it's like it'll be like an experience where you got to experience it once. And if they ask you to go back, you might be like, yeah, you know, there are some people.

[00:36:51] There are some people that I've seen like go back multiple times and it's only the people who I know would not be afraid to be in those spaces. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm sure it's safe and you'll get home in one piece.

[00:37:02] It's just it's an interesting time. That's all it is. Note to the listener, Corey just made a Guitar Hero reference. Absolutely canon event for this. Yeah, I had to drop it. Yeah. So put one little score down. That's the first of many probably. Okay.

[00:37:17] Just wait till Tony Hawk skate park. Pro skater. Come on. Whatever. Skater pro skate park in the skater pro park. So what is the future looking like for Passenger Princess? Your 2024 has been busy so far. Big EP drop.

[00:37:34] What are you looking for for the rest of the year? Maybe into next. What's going on? Shows? Are you doing any touring? Well, we got the show at the Dome on the 21st and then we have side by side fest July 27th.

[00:37:48] I think that's all we have so far. Yeah, that's all we have booked so far. No tours. Hopefully going to write more music after this next show and then maybe do some more recording this year if it works out.

[00:38:03] Yeah, that's really the goal just to keep keep going the way that we are going because I think we've been on a really good upward trend. Just considering like this time last year we were playing our first show and now we're playing at the Bronson Center,

[00:38:17] which is really cool. And so I don't think it's something that really any of us expected. So we're very open to whatever the world has for us and we would love to tour. That would be amazing. Get a nice little greasy band van and just hit the road.

[00:38:31] That's how it's done. I think once you get on was Bronson Center must have been Scallon, no? Yeah. Once you get on Scallon's radar and you stay on his good side. Thank you, Sean. Thank you, Sean. You'll get lots of great opportunities for sure.

[00:38:48] I hope he keeps loving us. I remember like before our first show we put out a demo quote unquote of OC Transpo Socks and like Spectrasonic reshared that on their Instagram. We were screeching. Yeah, that was like totally out of nowhere and very unexpected.

[00:39:06] But he really likes us and we really appreciate that. Well, there's lots to like for sure. And he's you know, he knows his local. He knows his local stuff. So I am and beyond. So good for you guys.

[00:39:18] And you know, you get in good graces with that kind of thing and opportunities come rolling in. And those opportunities lead to bigger things, bigger and better things. And that's how you grow growth. You will hit the road.

[00:39:32] And that's you know, as a punk band, are you really in it to make a ton of money? Probably not. But it would be nice to pay your rent. Every now and then, you know. Sure. Yeah. You know, the gas to the next town. Exactly. Is usually the.

[00:39:48] That's real. What you're going for. A bag of Doritos. Hopefully. Max Milk. Hopefully you get drink tickets and or food vouchers at this bar. Yes. Cool. The Dom does that, which is really nice.

[00:40:00] There was like one place that I played in London where they gave twenty five dollars of food and drink to every band member. And I think that was like the best like incentive for like food. Palisades Social Bowl in London. Very, very cool place.

[00:40:18] I find that if you go to like smaller areas too, if you go to like Peterborough and you get those like little halls or the little.

[00:40:26] I can't remember some of the places we've played and they'll be like, yeah, if it's a bar, it's like you get a pizza. You get five beers and there's like a case of water and a bag of apples in the back. And you're like, fucking apples.

[00:40:38] You're like, this is awesome. That's awesome. And you're paying us. Fresh food. Yeah. Real food. Oh my God. And that's one of those stories is like, remember like two years ago, the guy had a bag of apples. Oh yeah. That's awesome. Makes your day. Cool. Cool. Cool.

[00:40:56] So we're going to play. Thirteen questions with the band. But before we do that, did you have any shout outs or anyone you want to thank or mention? Caden's parents. Yeah, all the parents of the band. Anne Marie and Paul. Thank you Anne Marie and Paul. Yeah.

[00:41:15] And I would also like to thank Peter Yert from Hell Bros. And he gave us our first show ever opening at House of Targ for his band about a year ago. And that was amazing. And also, of course, thank Sean as well. Thank you, Sean.

[00:41:33] Yeah, for putting us on the map, so to speak. Yeah, I think even for that Hell Bros, like when we got offered that show, we had like maybe one song and it was kind of Peter was like, oh, you're going to like open the show for us.

[00:41:47] And we're like, oh yeah, it's cool. That's cool. And then he did that. Yeah. And then we were like, oh man, wouldn't that be crazy if that happened? And then it happened. A month later, he's like, no, you guys are actually playing this show.

[00:41:59] Yeah, he was like, so what do you think of this for a poster? And we were like, we have two songs, Peter. He was like, well, get to writing. I also want to thank every single person that comes to our shows, especially the regular attendees.

[00:42:11] It is so nice when you put on a show and you're like, oh, what if no one comes? But then you see those familiar faces in the audience.

[00:42:17] Anybody who listens to us, anybody who gets our streams up on Spotify is just really, I'm a huge fan of theirs. I think that is super sweet to listen to our recordings.

[00:42:27] And on that note, yeah, everyone who has seen the shows before I played was very, very nice. So a double thank you for that. There we go. Well, it is a community and if you're part of it, you can only help each other grow and get better.

[00:42:44] And if you can't sell out your own hometown, what are you going to do on the road? Exactly. So it's good. It's good. I also want to thank these guys for finding me and just randomly asking me to jam. Thank you for being our back.

[00:42:56] They saw you swinging from the rafters. Yeah, pretty much, pretty much. Somebody get that person down. And like when it goes for bands, it's like just look through all the people that you've recorded with because like there's so many great bands in Ottawa right now.

[00:43:11] And if we named off all of them, it would take like another hour or so. Yeah, yeah. We could go on. Yeah, there's been a couple in where I had to edit it down because I said just kind of go thanks everybody.

[00:43:23] And then, oh, but I got to thank this guy. This guy. It was like 24 minutes of like thanking bands. But there's so many active bands, so many awesome active bands that deserve thanks and praise. But you know who we are. There's just so many bands. So many bands.

[00:43:37] And they're all so cool and we want to be friends with all of them. And it's like I said, it is. It's a big community. And if you want to know who these bands are that were just saying thanks everyone, go back through the Eagle and Vice catalog.

[00:43:48] They're all there. Yes. I get to know them too. Listen to their music and share their music because that's how we share local and support local. I have a game called 13 Questions with the Band. Nice. Are you ready to play? Absolutely. Yes.

[00:44:03] Kayden, we have to share the mic. Time for 13 Questions with the Band. Yes, this segment's back again. It's called 13 Questions, but I only asked six, maybe five. OK, we're back. This is 13 Questions with Passenger Princess.

[00:44:18] Each of you, I will ask you the question and you can rapid fire answer. You can answer any way you want. If it goes too long, I'm going to cut you off. All right. It's my show. I'll do what I want. No, I'm just kidding. Kind of.

[00:44:32] As you should. As you should. All right. So I wrote some new questions which I'm going to mix with my old questions because I thought they were getting a little tired.

[00:44:39] So you might if you listen to the show, you might hear a couple of new ones, which is OK. Vick, what was the first music that moved you? That moved me? I like I've always been a musical kind of person growing up.

[00:44:57] Like my parents met at a karaoke bar. So like they were in their 20s in the 90s in Ottawa around. They weren't like I think in any bands or anything that they've told me about, but they were always around. And then I didn't grow up in the city.

[00:45:16] But yeah, music like any type of music that I listened to was always like moving me in some way, like physically, I guess. One direction. Well, yeah, that was my answer to real. For me when I was a little kid, it was Three Days Grace.

[00:45:37] Like I don't know, like 10 year old me thought Three Days Grace was the coolest thing. They are pretty cool. There's there's the Peterborough thing coming back to come with that. They're from Peterborough. And middle school, I got into Iron Maiden.

[00:45:52] They're still my favorite band, but he loves tool. I know he does love it. There's a joke in the band where his favorite. Yeah, but the music that made me want play guitar was Megadeth, specifically Hanger 18. Dave Mustaine or oh, who's the guitar player at that time?

[00:46:10] Marty Friedman. Marty Friedman. There you go. With the solo. The guy is nuts anyway. Fluent in Japanese, by the way. He lives in Japan now. Amazing. For me, it was either some forty ones. Does this look infected?

[00:46:26] I remember being like a little kid listening to that on a CD Walkman and like my underwear and just fucking air guitar ring. Or because I really like video games.

[00:46:35] I remember when I was in the big video games, it was Hot Wheels Turbo Racing had Metallica's Fuel as the intro. And I never skipped it. So fucking fire. I never skipped the intro. I listened to that bitch every single time.

[00:46:49] It's amazing how many people really, really when I think what was the first music you remember? They'll be like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, the soundtrack. That too. That too. Yeah. OK. Hero soundtrack. Back to the back to Vic.

[00:47:03] What was the first concert you ever went to as a fan? Avril Lavigne when I was 10 years old. She invented punk rock, did you know that? She did. And skateboarding. We still haven't covered any of her songs. Skate culture rests on Avril Lavigne's shoulders.

[00:47:18] First concert I ever went to as a fan was Avicii, the DJ, the Swedish DJ. Rest in Peace. When I was a little kid, my mom took me and my brother to see Three Days Grace. And I thought it was the coolest thing. It's like a theme.

[00:47:36] One of the first things that I can remember was being in high school when Disturbed Asylum came out. And I went and saw it was Disturbed, Korn. It was supposed to be like three other bands, but like two of them didn't show up.

[00:47:50] So yeah, with all that album, so good still. So good. Cool. All right. Next question is Vic. What is your favorite song today? My favorite song today? Like, okay, this one. It's a little off base.

[00:48:10] Your graduation by Modern Baseball has been my number one song on Spotify the last three years. So that would probably count for today as well. Yes. Very good. I think I've listened to it twice today. I'm really digging Salad by Blonde Shell.

[00:48:27] It's a great song and she is awesome. Today my favorite song is Pints of Guinness Make You Strong by Against Me. It's been on repeat for like three days since I heard it the first time. Nice.

[00:48:40] Oh, I'm trying to look through my like songs on Spotify to just find something. That was the first thing I thought. I don't know. The Shoy Boys Boy Feel is like actually really good. Yeah. Yeah. That one just came out. Yeah. Cool. I love Lara Jean Grace.

[00:48:57] I love the new acoustic record, kind of acoustic record she just put out. That song Give Up the Ghost. Fuck, that was my entire winter on out at Tromblot on the snowboard. Also. It bookended my entire like day and like start and end.

[00:49:14] Neon Ghost House piece of shit. That's going to be on my rotation for quite a while. Cool man. Local. Yeah. I think that showed up to Neon Ghost House wherever you are. Okay, Vic. What is your desert island record?

[00:49:30] Like if you got stuck on a desert island for 10 years and you could only bring like one album, what would it be? Paradise by Broadside. Sweet. Kaden go first. Ride the Lightning by Metallica. You stole my answer again you piece of shit. Corey go first.

[00:49:50] If I can cheat, Guitar Hero 2 soundtrack. If I can't cheat, I'll go Master of Puppets because this asshole. This is such a hard question. I'm going to say U2 War. Nice. Old school.

[00:50:04] And since you're trapped on a desert island, Ride the Lightning, you can listen to Escape and Dream. The one Metallica song that they disowned and they played it live like twice or something. Once.

[00:50:18] Yeah, it was once for a 20 year anniversary for Ride the Lightning where they played it front to back. By sheer fan demand. It's funny too because like they went to play it and they wanted to skip playing it but they kind of had to. It's not that bad.

[00:50:35] It's vintage Metallica. It's great. Alright, okay Vic. What is your favorite rainy day music when you're feeling down? I listen to a lot of sad folk whenever it's a rainy day. Cool. I will be circulating Preacher's Daughter by Ethel Cain. She is my favorite Midwestern emo queen.

[00:51:00] I love her so much. I really like Chelsea Wolf. Very goth, gloomy, dark, acoustic sometimes. Just a lot of good stuff. Cool. For me, it is the Gloria Suns live acoustic album. It's like Longboat Hall or something. Alright, Vic.

[00:51:24] What do you listen to to pick you back up? Midwest emo probably. Like Mom Jeans is a good pick-me-up from the rainy day. I really dig Bruno Mars. He's just so exciting and in such a good mood. 24K Magic is a really good record. Yeah, he's incredibly talented.

[00:51:50] I got to say that this is the most eclectic fan of music in one band that I've ever... We go from Ride the Lightning to Hangar 18 by Metallica to Bruno Mars. And One Direction. Don't forget them. One Direction, yeah. Exactly.

[00:52:05] No wonder Passenger Princess sounds exactly like it does. It makes sense when you put all that in. It works. To add to that, my new recent obsession is ABBA. And that's what I listen to. If I need a pick-me-up, I love ABBA. Mamma Mia.

[00:52:22] Sometimes you just got to go back to the classics. And we'll be covering that soon. What's the first No Bro record? I'm not sure but No Bros for sure is like my pick-me-up. That shit drives me insane. Cool. He climbs walls. Okay, we got a couple more questions.

[00:52:46] If you had a time machine and you could go back to any historical music event, what would it be? When one of the girls from Mamas and Papas was eating a banana because they wanted her to lip sync. So she just started eating a banana on TV.

[00:53:05] And that. I've mentioned this already, but the replacements. I'd go back to any one of their shows, especially one of the more rambunctious ones where they were super drunk and forgot all the lyrics and started throwing stuff offstage. Yeah. All right. Seattle, 1992, Metallica. I'd go back there.

[00:53:27] You were so close to stealing it again. 1989. 1989, life shit binged and purged for sure. I used to have the, I think I still do. I had like the 3 DVD set of that. Was that what it was? Was that was an injustice for all tour? Yeah. All right.

[00:53:47] Vintage Hetfield. Oh, so good. And Jason Newstead on the news. Jesus. Okay. I guess you can all kind of collectively answer this. Who would passenger princess love to open for the dirty nail? Yes. The dirty now. Yeah, that'd be a cool one.

[00:54:11] But also if you guys have other answers, shoot. Destroy Boys would be really, really, really cool. But I feel like they're so famous now. They're so famous now. Scowl would be pretty sick. I mean, I don't want to say Metallica again. Stole my answer.

[00:54:36] Answer all of these questions with Metallica. Pink Shift would be awesome because I also love that record. Or Vile. Or Vile. Yeah. So it's like a festival you've just booked. Yeah. Yeah. It's in the works. Angry Women plus Metallica Festival. Are they angry at Metallica? Probably.

[00:54:58] There we go. Two more quick questions. If you could have a drink with anybody, alive or dead, who would it be? Stevie Nicks. I'm also going to be at that drink. Same shit. Easy. She's got shit to say. I'd probably go with Lemmy honestly. Oh yeah.

[00:55:22] They're the same person. Corey and Kaden are the same person. I don't know. I'll go sad answer and say my grandfather. That's nice. That's sweet. That is sweet. Or Chappellrone. I just want to hear her talk. She's so cool. Just talk at me please.

[00:55:37] Maybe my dog, if he could speak, I would get a drink with him. Imagine what he'd say. All right. The very last question of 13 questions with Passenger Princess is, who is Passenger Princess? Some fucking idiots from Ottawa. I can go with that. That works.

[00:55:59] Here we have a second. So true. Corey's answer is pretty good, but I would say we are just a bunch of people. Just some guys being dudes. Yeah, just some guys being dudes. Just some girls being gals. Just some friends playing music.

[00:56:13] Just some friends playing music and we really love music. Classic answer. That was the hardest one. That was the hardest question. And you are Ottawa's number one anti-buss punk rock band. Exactly. All right. Thank you so much for being on Eagle and Vice.

[00:56:28] I had a great chat and it was great meeting you all. Thank you so much for having us. No problem. I wish you nothing but the best in the future. Any final words? Go stream Ottawa music. Fifth Neon Ghost House, Benzine. Teenage Fiction, Space Between. Guest stream status.

[00:56:45] Guest stream status. Victor Complex, Hon Club. No Hits. Yeah. Blank Notion. I've opened to the can of worms. Get ready for 24 minutes of name dropping. 55 burgers, 55 fries, 55 takes. Anyway. Wait I'm doing something! Have a great rest of the year. Thank you very much. Thank you too.

[00:57:07] Hey that's the end. That's all she wrote. That's episode 137. I'd really like to thank Passenger Princess for coming into South Hood Studio sitting down and having a really fun conversation about them. Theirselves. Both themselves. Hey but that's what I offer and that's what we want.

[01:00:15] I wish them nothing but the best. Awesome people. Fun conversation. If you want to get a hold of me you can always reach me at egoandvice at gmail.com. If you want to listen to the podcast go to egoandvicepodcast.com. As I always say it's the home base.

[01:00:31] Every link to everything you use, people listen to. There it is. Ego and Vice. Podcast. Dot com. In the meantime, that's it for me. I'll see you next week. Later. You've got a real attitude problem McFlyer. You're a slacker.