Episode 131: THUNDERKOK

[00:00:00] What are your thoughts on this strange and delicious place?

[00:00:03] Well, it's a very strange place. I came here to cover the World Series of Poker,

[00:00:08] and apparently there's some kind of law against wearing weird masks on your head.

[00:00:13] I tried to explain to them this is my real face.

[00:00:16] They shot me up with elephant tranquilizer and threw me in the back alley.

[00:00:20] Whoa! That is rough.

[00:00:22] I haven't seen a collection of degenerates and weirdos as vast since the last Republican convention.

[00:00:29] They drove me about 40 miles outside of town and dropped me in the desert.

[00:00:33] They're trying to pretend I'm not even here.

[00:00:35] After the show is over, I'm walking back down to the Rio and I'm going to kill everyone!

[00:00:41] Oh yeah, he definitely means it too.

[00:00:44] Ego and Vice, episode 131.

[00:00:47] You've got a real attitude problem McFly, you're a slacker.

[00:00:59] I was Northwood grade, I had it made.

[00:01:07] Spent my nights drinking with my mates.

[00:01:10] Just a short bus ride up to P.A.

[00:01:15] Red River Raid.

[00:01:19] Then I hit the wall and I knew I had to bounce.

[00:01:24] They still say that?

[00:01:25] 19 years ago, hell I got the hill out.

[00:01:32] From time to time you may have seen me hanging around them.

[00:01:38] Now I feel like a stranger in this town.

[00:01:46] Crossin' roads is where I learned to play.

[00:01:50] Hey, this is Mike. This is Ego and Vice, episode 131.

[00:01:55] Thank you so much for tuning in.

[00:01:57] This week on Ego and Vice I have Garrett and Nick from the local heavy metal band, Thundercock.

[00:02:04] Super excited to have them on.

[00:02:06] I've had a Thundercock sticker on my little record cabinet thingy here with all the rest of the bands and everybody that's been on Ego and Vice.

[00:02:16] And Thundercock was one of the first stickers I stuck on that thing. One of the first stickers I stuck.

[00:02:22] And now they're here.

[00:02:24] And I'm fuckin' ready.

[00:02:25] Maybe I wasn't ready, but now I'm ready.

[00:02:28] Anyway, gonna play a song from Thundercock, then we're gonna come back, like I said, with Garrett and Nick.

[00:02:33] We're gonna talk all things. The Cock!

[00:02:35] Right here.

[00:02:36] On Ego and Vice.

[00:02:46] He's dead. He used to be straight up two. One night he pulled it out and broke it trying to shove it back inside.

[00:03:01] He's got a scar on his dick as hard as a rock. Fucked a dog. Disappointment to tell. Man is cock.

[00:03:17] Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish. He can't stop. Not yet.

[00:03:37] The doctor asked if this resident can watch. He says that's okay with me if he respects my love.

[00:03:51] They start soaking and poking with no regard. Oh no, what's this? He's getting hard.

[00:04:07] Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish. He can't stop. Not yet.

[00:04:27] Oh no, I'm getting hard. Please doctor, don't judge me. I've got a stress motor from the doctor's touch.

[00:04:46] Take him on a date before you go down there checking his prostate and examining his dick.

[00:05:02] Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish. He can't stop. Not yet.

[00:05:20] Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish. He can't stop. Not yet.

[00:05:36] Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish. He can't stop. Not yet.

[00:06:06] Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish.

[00:06:31] Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish.

[00:06:45] Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish.

[00:07:01] Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish. Maximum rubbish.

[00:07:17] Anyway, did you guys catch the eclipse today?

[00:07:21] Honestly, I was in the gym when the eclipse was happening and that's kind of where I stayed. There was a giant glass window because I'm on Queen Street and it was completely pitch black. It was like 9pm outside.

[00:07:34] And that's when I kind of took a little bit of interest but I didn't buy any special glasses or anything so I couldn't actually go look at the sun.

[00:07:40] The glasses that, those really special glasses to stare at the sun for 40 minutes that you buy at the gas station.

[00:07:48] Yeah. Yeah. I had some neighbors across the way and they were sitting out and they had the lawn chairs and they had like a thermos and shit and they're wearing those paper glasses they bought at the Petrocan.

[00:07:58] Staring at the sun! I don't know if that's the fucking... anyway.

[00:08:02] Did you see the eclipse?

[00:08:03] I did but I kind of played it cool because all my neighbors were like sitting in their chairs with their paper glasses and I was out cleaning my car and my girlfriend actually called me and said,

[00:08:14] Shut the windows so Thomas, my cat, doesn't get all screwed up because of the change apparently. It might be overreacting but...

[00:08:21] And I was like, oh right, the eclipse! So I was just like, ah that's fine.

[00:08:25] So I was cleaning the inside of my car like after winter and I got the doors open and had my knee pads on and stuff like that.

[00:08:31] And everyone's looking at the thing and I just pretended it wasn't happening. It got dark and everything but I just didn't even look at it once.

[00:08:37] Nice. Such a Chad move.

[00:08:39] Yeah, wow. I did, although I did raise my phone and took like a picture behind my head and then kind of looked at the picture to see if I could do it.

[00:08:48] I put a bunch of filters on it to see if it would like pop like the moon but...

[00:08:52] That's almost why I didn't bother to look at the eclipse though because I knew there would be so much content on the internet for the next six months that I would be seeing.

[00:08:59] And they posted, like somebody posted this really cool high def footage of the eclipse as seen from Texas.

[00:09:05] And like the image was so clear I was like you can't even get that with those stupid glasses on. So I was like it's even way better to look at it this way through my cell phone.

[00:09:14] I didn't have the glasses and I just looked through my cell phone at the sun.

[00:09:18] Oh really? Does that limit the badness or the damage?

[00:09:23] I did it and I can see still.

[00:09:25] It's like I'm good but my cell phone is fucked.

[00:09:28] Anyway, so Thundercock. Let's talk about Thundercock. I tried to do some research on you guys but as I always tell everybody, I am not a professional journalist. I do what I can with what I got.

[00:09:38] And I find local bands you gotta kind of dig kind of deep and then get some bullet points and then hopefully it'll come out in the wash as they say.

[00:09:46] The far back as I could go is 2016. Does that add up?

[00:09:51] Yeah, that's probably about it.

[00:09:52] Like yeah.

[00:09:53] Eight-ish years.

[00:09:54] Donald Trump took presidency and we knew we had to respond.

[00:09:57] I see. Very good, very good. And what was the outcome? Did it work?

[00:10:01] We're still here. He's not.

[00:10:03] I think he got the message. He's terrified of us.

[00:10:06] Okay. As he should be.

[00:10:08] Yeah.

[00:10:09] As most people are. Now Thundercock is an absolute straight up heavy metal band. Everything I could read about you guys that is what is classified as. Do you agree with that?

[00:10:21] Yeah. Yeah. I think originally we wanted to be like glam metal and then we sort of we change our perspective a little bit and we're trying to go for a new wave of Canadian heavy metal thing.

[00:10:32] And like sometimes the line gets blurred moving forward. Like we have some thrash songs now and stuff but yeah we're always all of us are into heavy metal so it's kind of where we live.

[00:10:43] Speaking of that, I think we missed three members of the band when we were doing the introduction because we got totally, we digressed with the eclipse or maybe I just cut you off. I have ADHD so I try and keep things on a straight line.

[00:10:56] You can say that conversation almost eclipsed that topic.

[00:10:59] Oh very good. See that's the beauty of Thundercock is the wordplay and the cleverness of it all. So the other three guys.

[00:11:08] So yeah we got Travis Hood. He plays the bass. He's really good at it. And then Dave Kastner and Hamish Robertson.

[00:11:17] Yeah.

[00:11:20] They play guitar. They're absolute wizards on guitar, complete wizards. So we actually just added a new member to the Thundercock lineup, our drummer Hunter Breen. He plays in another local band called Gland. They're a death grind band.

[00:11:34] And he is a super, he's a killer. He's an absolute skin killer. He showed up like a month ago in our jam space. I knew him from a previous project we both worked on and he just blew us all away. He's on point just slaying every second of the song.

[00:11:51] This tour was a great showpiece for him.

[00:11:53] I will touch on that later but the musicianship in Thundercock is second to none. You guys are good players, like real good. Did you all know each other through the Ottawa scene? Is that how it all came together?

[00:12:09] Yeah the original, like the original, the five of us when we met up we all kind of played in different bands but we drank together. So I was out having some sodas with Dave one night and we got the idea to start a glam band.

[00:12:24] And he was like, oh I know this other guy that'll want to play guitar and he knew a guy that played bass and then I knew a guy that played drums at the time. But we all kind of came from different genres like the one guitar player and bass player played like more rock stuff.

[00:12:40] Dave played more like mathy kind of things. I came from playing death metal and black metal and things like that. And then later on we added Nick as the hype man when our antics started getting out of control.

[00:12:55] That's awesome, I love that.

[00:12:56] I was really the only person that was down to make a complete idiot out of myself. They would be like, we need somebody to put this crazy costume on and we need you to wear a dildo and all this stuff. And I'd be like absolutely, it was such second nature for me.

[00:13:11] I'm your guy. You found them. That's it. Yeah well hey man, everybody needs one of those guys and if every band had one of those guys then every band would be every other band but you guys are the thunder cock! That's what makes it. All the parts that make the whole.

[00:13:28] That could have been a good play on words. I was close dude, I was close. I just wasn't sure how our rating would be going. I stumped the cock! I stumped them! So the very first EP that was released was Trigger Warning.

[00:13:44] Yeah, we released like three EPs in very tight sequence of each other that were all just three or four songs on cassette. Trigger Warning was us kind of figuring out what we were doing at the time and kind of figuring out how to record with each other and how each other work. But it probably came out eight years ago now.

[00:14:08] Yeah, 2016 was Trigger Warning, 2017 was Cocaine with Cain. Cocaine. I didn't even get it. That's great. And then there was 2019's Sex Tape EP. Oh yeah the Sex Tape EP.

[00:14:26] Yeah. Which, that's the one I kind of get stuck on because those are, I don't know, there's certain songs like Ejacula. Oh my god yeah we still play that one. And one of my all time probably favorite ever, not even just like song titles but it's just funny is 1980-69. Yeah.

[00:14:45] Like come on now. I love the wordplay and the humor and it's just like, like I was talking about where the music is just tight and it's really good and the lyrics are clever but they're not all funny but they're just humorous. They have that humor but they have the tongue in cheek you know what I mean? But they're still kind of badass. Yeah. So it's, I don't know.

[00:15:10] And speaking of Ejacula, we were like trying to base a whole musical around the idea of that song for a little while. We got like pretty deep into the- We have a whole script ready for it. To an actual script. It's a super ambitious project. Ejacula the show? Yeah. I think it's called The Book of Ejacula.

[00:15:27] But that's kind of the thing about Thundercock though is that like it's kind of like a public inside joke where it's like these six dudes get together and they drink and then something, somebody makes a joke and everybody thinks it's the stupidest thing ever. And that joke becomes like the centerpiece for like a song or something.

[00:15:47] Or even just like an antique on stage. Like this last tour in Ottawa we were playing with these dildos that squirt. I saw some footage of that on Instagram. Yeah so this time around we actually, we were talking to somebody because we have connections in the film industry and this dude helped us rig a pressure system up to the dildo so that it was like- because usually it squirts but not to like a very high velocity. But this time it was truly pissed off. The low stream.

[00:16:14] It was truly pissing this time. They were pissing hard and they had to point those dildos at something because there was so much electrical equipment on the stage and that flow of water was just unceasing. I was waiting to get electrocuted. I was so sure we were going to get shocked. That's it.

[00:16:33] Was that in between songs or was that during a song? Like when they are actually-

[00:16:37] Ah yeah both. Like during yeah.

[00:16:39] Was it show wide?

[00:16:40] Yeah so they'll play and they'll be-

[00:16:42] They'll be squirting the whole show. The whole set they'll be squirting.

[00:16:44] That's cool. I totally get what you mean though about like- because in GOAT, my other band, we had a lot of stupid songs. We had songs called like Ballgazer, Don't Put It In Me, then we had Goochgazer, the sequel to Ballgazer.

[00:16:57] And it all came from goofing off in the jam. It was almost like an inside joke that how many- I know GOAT had a ton of songs that were jokes in the band room that we could never play in front of people.

[00:17:14] Oh yeah.

[00:17:16] I have a feeling Thundercock may have a few of those as well.

[00:17:20] Yeah like essentially all of our songs are kind of that. Our full length album is a series of songs that are all true stories.

[00:17:28] Okay.

[00:17:29] Like everything in that album happened in real life.

[00:17:32] Oh wow.

[00:17:33] So it's like that was like we have those jokes but usually like yeah we usually put them out there.

[00:17:39] Oh yeah you just go for it? Oh yeah some of ours were a little too crass like we didn't- yeah we didn't have the courage to put them out but they were like gnarly and it's just like, suit we laughed our asses off.

[00:17:51] Yeah.

[00:17:52] You know?

[00:17:53] I think us it's like the way I try to like write it down is so that we are like the butt of the joke.

[00:18:00] Yeah.

[00:18:01] It's never like it's always like you're laughing at us.

[00:18:03] Yeah.

[00:18:04] You're not laughing with us, you're laughing at us a lot of the time.

[00:18:06] Yeah it's not direct, you're not being ignorant or mean. It's all just like let's all have-

[00:18:11] Well I'll be mean to people in the band because I hate them.

[00:18:14] Yeah of course.

[00:18:15] I haven't liked a band member I've ever played with no. I'm just kidding.

[00:18:20] So I guess you guys started playing shows right away and you just kind of carried it through. You like they always say you tour the record, you played shows backing these EPs and that?

[00:18:31] Yeah the early EPs we got, we started figuring out kind of what was going on and what people liked and that's why the show is so extreme now because the things that people really responded to were like the wild antics and it's just it's been ramping up ever since then.

[00:18:48] Yeah.

[00:18:49] I've always considered like rock and roll like you look far back as far back as like I don't know like Kiss or something in the 70s and it is performance art to a degree you know what I mean?

[00:19:01] Like you can go up there as four guys in your jeans and t-shirts and play like four chord rock songs and people love that but if you have the ability or it's in you and you're all in like the collective to put on like a presentation as well as the music.

[00:19:14] You know there's that old saying where it's like you work like a year to write record and you know write a rehearsal record and then you put 15 minutes into your stage show to perform it right?

[00:19:27] Just doesn't balance out very well. You put as much time into the music as you did into the stage show and then presented all that as one thing and you can kind of rate your own ticket I think but that's my opinion.

[00:19:38] Yeah we put a lot of time into the stage show.

[00:19:41] Like a guar type of thing right? Where it's like.

[00:19:45] Yeah if we could get to that level that would be amazing I would be so pumped.

[00:19:48] That's some high tech property.

[00:19:50] Oh my god yeah.

[00:19:52] Right? Latex rubber foam I think eh? Did you guys go to the guar show?

[00:19:57] Oh yeah yeah yeah.

[00:19:59] Did you turn red like everyone else?

[00:20:01] No I'm old I sat down.

[00:20:03] Do you know Blake Hipson? He was in a band called Life on Trial. He was in a couple other bands. He's a vocalist. Short guy, big white beard, really kind of deep guttural kind of thing.

[00:20:15] Did they play him?

[00:20:17] Blake I think we know him.

[00:20:19] Sounds familiar.

[00:20:20] Anyway, the queers were playing at the Brass Monkey last week and I ran into Blake and he's got white hair and white beard and it was all pink.

[00:20:31] And I was like sweet! Pink beard! He's like yeah I didn't do it on purpose I went to the guar show. He couldn't get it out of his white beard.

[00:20:39] That is so crazy. I didn't think that they was going to be that staining. I didn't go too close to the pit because I had taken mushrooms that night and I was freaking out.

[00:20:45] I got splashed. I got splashed and the one shirt that I wore still got that shit on and I was like damn.

[00:20:52] No one ever talks about the fact that when you go to a guar show you literally get dyed pink and it stays like that for weeks.

[00:20:58] I wonder what kind of contract they signed for the venue right? It's like I wonder.

[00:21:03] Oh my god you're so right.

[00:21:05] Do they bring their own cleaning crew or do they have to pay extra because they know it's going to be like a fucking disaster once they leave?

[00:21:12] It's not just packing your gear up going alright thanks for the night.

[00:21:16] But yeah I was standing beside the soundboard for that whole show and they had tarps over top of the soundboard and the lighting board as well.

[00:21:23] Crazy. How far did it go? How far did it go? It just went everywhere I guess right? Like the blood spraying and the cannons.

[00:21:29] Yeah it was like far back.

[00:21:30] It was far back. I was like.

[00:21:36] How are they pulling that off every night and I get nervous sometimes if we spill too much beer on the stage.

[00:21:44] I'm like oh man this bar is going to be pissed and they're going to kick us out and never let us back.

[00:21:48] But it has never happened yet.

[00:21:50] They actually welcome us with open arms when we come back.

[00:21:52] To be guar I guess you can get away with lots. You could probably also afford to pay for the cleaning crew.

[00:21:58] Yeah that's true.

[00:22:00] Anyway as long as there's not permanent like this will ruin your bar for a while you know what I mean?

[00:22:06] You can't have people in here for at least three weeks after we're done playing but who knows.

[00:22:11] We played a show at Targ several years ago and we used to use fake blood as a prop.

[00:22:16] And I had a bunch of it on my hand and I put it on the ceiling because I was leaning forward to do something.

[00:22:22] And I stained the ceiling with a fist of blood and it was there for like a good year after.

[00:22:28] Did anyone give you shit for it?

[00:22:30] No no but I was sad whenever they painted over it.

[00:22:32] They painted over it?

[00:22:34] Yeah.

[00:22:36] Cool man.

[00:22:38] Alright let's play a song.

[00:22:40] I'll let you choose off of the first I guess three EPs that we got to off of Trigger Warning Cocaine or Sex Tape.

[00:22:49] Let's do Ejacula. It's a classic.

[00:22:51] Absolute classic. We opened with that on our last tour.

[00:22:54] Ejacula.

[00:22:56] The Broadway musical.

[00:22:58] This is Thundercock. This is a song called Ejacula.

[00:23:02] Eagle and Vice.

[00:23:28] Well he is sick by all that dirty cleaning that you threw onto your face.

[00:23:44] But he's desperate to rifle through an adapter as the sperm donation cleared it.

[00:23:52] And when he's tried he'll hit a full drop of blood to give him hit it so let's enjoy.

[00:24:10] Ejacula why are you so obsessed with snow?

[00:24:18] Ejacula don't you know that Thundercock is young?

[00:24:35] Always asleep he fights until he'll get cheap to get insane much of that money.

[00:24:43] Well he is sick by all that dirty cleaning that you threw onto your face.

[00:25:00] Ejacula why are you so obsessed with snow?

[00:25:08] Ejacula don't you know that Thundercock is young?

[00:25:38] Ejacula don't you know that Thundercock is young?

[00:25:50] Ejacula don't you know that Thundercock is young?

[00:25:59] Ejacula don't you know that Thundercock is young?

[00:26:10] Ejacula don't you know that Thundercock is young?

[00:26:19] Ejacula don't you know that Thundercock is young?

[00:26:31] Ejacula don't you know that Thundercock is young?

[00:26:39] So how did Thundercock do during the pandemic? Did you guys keep going or did you take a big hiatus? Was there ever a moment where you thought this might be the end?

[00:26:57] We used to do a thing for the first little chunk of it where we'd do tub time together and we would all just get in our tubs, draw baths in our tubs and video screen each other and talk about ideas and things.

[00:27:13] And then throughout the pandemic we worked on the full length and kind of like you write it online and stuff and then whenever the pandemic ended we were able to put it to tape.

[00:27:28] Which like COVID worked out for us, it wasn't too bad. We all lived very close to each other.

[00:27:34] That serve money was so good.

[00:27:36] Yeah right, hey COVID was a killer for a lot of bands but some bands thrived and came out of the actual pandemic super strong and fucking hungry right?

[00:27:44] Yeah.

[00:27:45] That's cool and you wrote a record I guess that was Life is a Nightmare?

[00:27:49] Yeah Life is a Nightmare came out of the pandemic.

[00:27:51] Nice nice.

[00:27:53] I ask this question sometimes about the pandemic whenever it does come up. Did you, well I guess it answers it now.

[00:28:00] Some people had no, they were less creative, some people were more creative just because of the environment so cool.

[00:28:09] Do the songs on Life is a Nightmare kind of reflect that time period? Like how you guys were feeling or is it more like thunder cock craziness?

[00:28:18] Yeah there is a song on there that's kind of about the time, the title track is Life is a Nightmare about how life is just generally a nightmare.

[00:28:26] And then the rest of them have to do with like around events that happened around that time to members of the band or things that maybe happened just before it but it's a culmination of little stories.

[00:28:38] Tell them about Number of the Yeast.

[00:28:41] Number of the Yeast is a song that's on Life is a Nightmare and I forget how he came across this but we all had a discussion one night where we all thought at one point in our lives that we had contracted herpes and then went to the doctor and were told that we had yeast infections.

[00:29:00] All of you.

[00:29:01] Yeah, I think somebody told the story and the next guy was like you're not going to believe this but I also had a yeast infection so that's kind of where the songs come out.

[00:29:13] How does that happen to five dudes? You all get yeast infections. It's got to become Number of the Yeast.

[00:29:19] I guess so. It was like your bath video osmosis, some weird kind of like anyway. Who knows man? Do you guys play in the same band? Maybe someone touched someone's strings. I don't know something.

[00:29:34] Anyway, so as far as playing shows and stuff I saw that Targ pops up a lot. Have you guys done any touring?

[00:29:45] Yeah, we do little rips. We just got back from a few dates. We did Kingston, Ottawa and Montreal for a weekend but we all work full time. It's hard to get out for big tours.

[00:29:56] Is Thundercock a full-time band? Do you guys practice once a week and play once a month type of thing? Is that kind of your agenda or is it just kind of weekend warrior type stuff?

[00:30:06] Yeah, we jam like once a week. We try to play locally like three or four times a year. We're very low key now. Well, we go in phases right? We're low key and then sometimes we get energy and we want to write movies and stuff together.

[00:30:21] I think right now we're in a very energetic phase because we've been hanging out a lot lately and a lot of ideas have been coming up. Like we mentioned with the musical movie thing and we have other concepts that are floating around our brain right now like a Dildozer album.

[00:30:39] That's like a play on the Kildozer. When the ideas start flowing you start putting pen to paper and writing music and things get done so we're in an energy mood right now. I think maybe it's because we're coming out of winter or something.

[00:30:52] Dildozer. It's so simple. Why didn't I ever think of it? It's perfect though. I love that shit. That's so funny. That's the kind of shit we used to laugh at too anyway.

[00:31:01] So I don't, I know apparently there's like a rule, a podcasting rule. I don't know. I heard this before. You're not supposed to ask a band where their band name came from. You're not supposed to do that because that's supposed to be kind of like lore or something.

[00:31:20] You're just supposed to kind of fucking figure it out. But what I like to ask is were there any other names that you were going to name Thundercock that didn't make the cut?

[00:31:31] Yeah I think we were just trying to play with words and make them sexual and we landed on Thundercock because it was usable or so we thought. And it sounded good. It's kind of like a rock and roll kind of name.

[00:31:49] When you were talking about that it was glam metal too. That's where you wanted to kind of start. I can see how it's kind of like that sexual kind of like. I can see like a hair metal with Thundercock.

[00:32:04] Yeah it started as like, would be funny to do like a very hypersexual kind of Steel Panther thing but it turned into like smoking dicks and pissing on each other on stage.

[00:32:15] Those massive dicks that spew smoke are heavy as fuck and we have to carry those to every single show.

[00:32:20] Can you tell a couple of really crazy, well you already told the spring dicks one, can you tell any other maybe a couple of really crazy show stories?

[00:32:30] Do you have any from this weekend Nick?

[00:32:33] I don't have anything that's like outrageously crazy but there was this one thing I was doing. So I was wearing a bunny suit. We were calling it, this character was called the Easter Bunny.

[00:32:42] And I was putting this bunny suit on for like the first half of the set and I would do this thing where I would lay on the ground and pour a beer into my mouth.

[00:32:51] So the first two nights it went pretty well but then Montreal was like, it was a good show. There was a really good turnout and the crowd ended up receiving us near the end of the show.

[00:33:01] But for some reason it was like they were cardboard. They were not responding to our normal antics.

[00:33:09] Tough night? Tough crowd?

[00:33:12] Oh yeah, we like to pour beer into people's mouths and stuff like that and they didn't even understand that concept.

[00:33:18] So for this show I laid on my back and I went to go pour the beer into my mouth but it immediately shot right up my nose.

[00:33:26] And I like Michael Myers sat up immediately and somebody got it on video and shared it to their story.

[00:33:34] It was the stupidest thing. Every time I see it I replay that moment in my head.

[00:33:39] But I think probably the craziest thing from this last tour was the fact that Scott Stapp from Creed was on stage with us for this.

[00:33:45] Like about two months ago he called us and he said that he was super into what we were doing and he was like I'm going to fly out and I want to sing a Creed song with you guys. We were like absolutely.

[00:33:57] So we were playing Creed at the end of every set and the crowds took it surprisingly well.

[00:34:03] Are you serious? Yeah, yeah we played an entire Creed song at the end of the set.

[00:34:06] That's the most random absolute random thing I've ever heard in my life.

[00:34:10] And you can see it on our Instagram, he's there.

[00:34:14] Okay. Yeah we do read. We'll do covers like that sometimes.

[00:34:18] Which Creed song did you play? My Sacrifice.

[00:34:20] My Sacrifice, yeah.

[00:34:21] Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck that's crazy. Okay. I don't even know what to say to that.

[00:34:25] I was going to ask for crazy. Yeah one time we got drunk and threw a TV out of a photo window. No Scott Stapp from Creed called us and he came down and fucking.

[00:34:33] Our like I don't know if I can tell the crazy stories without some people getting in trouble.

[00:34:39] Well. We want the guys from Buck Cherry to call us, we want to go on tour with them. Oh yeah.

[00:34:44] Well just luck would have it, Buck Cherry is one of my biggest listeners.

[00:34:48] That's crazy. They're ignoring us hardcore on Instagram right now, it's upsetting.

[00:34:52] Oh, oh. Well you got Scott.

[00:34:54] He's our in, he's got the golden keys to the game.

[00:34:57] That's right, that's right. So what do you guys got coming up?

[00:35:00] So right now we're writing the Killdozer album or the Dildozer album. Dildozer.

[00:35:05] Yeah so we're doing the Dildozer album. That's going to be a concept.

[00:35:08] That's going to be a concept based on like you know what the Killdozer is right?

[00:35:13] Killdozer, yeah there was that dude who put himself, who locked himself in that giant fucking thing he made in his barn and then he just absolutely terrorized the town but ended up, he didn't kill anybody.

[00:35:23] He's like the Unabomber if the Unabomber had a pair of nuts.

[00:35:27] He actually, he was libertarian enough to do it and like actually face the people that he wanted to do it to.

[00:35:34] Right. This Unabomber guy, he's no bueno to me.

[00:35:38] Okay, that's fair. I feel bad for the Killdozer dude because like he did a lot, he made a big mess basically and he cost a lot of damage.

[00:35:47] Didn't kill a single person.

[00:35:48] But he didn't kill anybody and then he shot himself in the Killdozer. I wish he would have just climbed out and went alright you got me.

[00:35:54] No, he should have stuck around because so many people think very highly of that guy and I already am aware of the fact that so many serial killers get like massive amounts of pussy like in prison.

[00:36:05] Like from the outside. Girls were obsessed with Ted Bundy, they were obsessed with all those guys.

[00:36:10] It's like if Killdozer stayed alive, I'm certain he would be getting conjugal visits up to Wazoo.

[00:36:16] Marvin Heemeyer getting all the bussy.

[00:36:18] That's it.

[00:36:19] He might even be out now. He might be a free man by now, no?

[00:36:21] Oh yeah, dude.

[00:36:22] You never know because you never know what charges you know.

[00:36:24] He's a true American hero. He stood up to corruption.

[00:36:26] Yeah, you could just say it wasn't me. It wasn't me.

[00:36:28] He talking about.

[00:36:30] God bless that man. So anyways, Dildozer.

[00:36:32] He sold the engineering for the Killdozer to Boeing and actually served no time.

[00:36:36] That's it. Boeing wishes they could make a Killdozer.

[00:36:39] But the regulations are in the way.

[00:36:42] Donald Trump, please if you're listening to this, make the regulations possible so that Boeing can make a Killdozer.

[00:36:47] Well, just as luck would have it, Donald Trump is one of my biggest listeners.

[00:36:50] Dude, hell yeah. He's also one of our greatest enemies.

[00:36:53] Oh, okay. Very good. As he should be.

[00:36:56] Okay. Did you have any last words or any shout outs to people?

[00:37:02] I have a game that we're going to play for the last part of the podcast.

[00:37:05] It's a question and answer game. It's called 13 Questions with the Band.

[00:37:09] But before we go into that, do you have any last words, any shout outs, anything you want to say to anybody?

[00:37:14] I just want to shout out Justin Trudeau because he funds this band personally.

[00:37:17] As luck would have it, Justin Trudeau is one of my biggest fans.

[00:37:21] Goat. Super goat.

[00:37:23] Okay. Are you willing to play 13 Questions with the Band?

[00:37:28] Absolutely.

[00:37:29] Alright, let's do it.

[00:37:30] Time for 13 Questions with the Band.

[00:37:32] Yes this segment's back again. It's called 13 Questions but I only asked six. Maybe five.

[00:37:38] Okay, we're back. 13 Questions with Thundercock.

[00:37:42] These questions are kind of rapid fire. You don't have to go into any crazy, crazy detail unless you're going to be able to.

[00:37:46] I'm going to ask you. Each of you can answer.

[00:37:49] I have 13 questions. I don't actually ask 13 questions. I ask questions out of the 13 questions.

[00:37:56] So when we're done, you say that wasn't 13.

[00:37:58] Okay, so let's do this. What was the first tape, CD or record you bought with your own money?

[00:38:08] Oh man, I got a good one for this.

[00:38:12] I went to the, I'm from Cornwall. I went into the CD store in Cornwall and I bought this very normal looking Sepultura CD.

[00:38:22] But I also bought Tomb of the Mutilated because the cover was super fucked up. I didn't even know what it was.

[00:38:27] So I bought them and I'm like a little kid but I hid Tomb of the Mutilated for my mom.

[00:38:33] And I got home and I listened to it and I was like, this sounds terrible.

[00:38:36] And then like a decade later I was like, this sounds amazing.

[00:38:40] Dude, yeah. For me I think it was Toxic Holocaust Hell on Earth because it got that Ed Repka cover and I was obsessed with that aesthetic so much.

[00:38:47] Oh yeah.

[00:38:48] And then I followed that into Death, Spiritual Healing. They had a cover by Ed Repka. That's such a, it's like Sunlit too.

[00:38:55] You know, like it's that blue one where there's like that guy in the wheelchair and it's just so metal. Ate that up.

[00:39:01] Cool, cool. Alright. What is your death row meal?

[00:39:05] It's going to be Taco Bell.

[00:39:09] Taco Bell.

[00:39:10] I'm going to eat so much Taco Bell that when they put me in that thing I just bust all over the fucking glass like I go out like a bitch.

[00:39:16] Man, yeah. I can't even.

[00:39:19] An endangered animal in front of an Indian maybe.

[00:39:22] Dude, yes.

[00:39:24] Dude, yes.

[00:39:25] Awesome.

[00:39:26] What is your desert island record if you got stuck on a desert island and you had to have one record? That's it.

[00:39:33] Alice in Chains, Dirt.

[00:39:35] How very fitting.

[00:39:37] Absolutely. Just like the whole album, complete bangers. Lane Stanley is a genius. Love that guy.

[00:39:45] Cool.

[00:39:47] I might do like Dope Smoker or something just to fit the aesthetic.

[00:39:51] I put that on at a party once because somebody told me I could put on one song so I put on Dope Smoker by Sleep.

[00:39:56] Hour and ten minute long song.

[00:39:58] Nice.

[00:39:59] Is that how long it is? Hour and ten minutes?

[00:40:01] I think it's for sure over an hour.

[00:40:04] That was such a fuck you to the label too because they were like we need you to do an album.

[00:40:09] They're like okay here's one hour long song and they're like this is fucking bullshit and then they cut it into like six tracks with the Jerusalem.

[00:40:15] I was going to say, do they have a live version on YouTube?

[00:40:18] I have no idea.

[00:40:19] The regular recording of it eventually got released though.

[00:40:23] Eventually they dropped the original recording.

[00:40:25] Cool.

[00:40:26] What was your first concert, first live concert?

[00:40:29] Iron Maiden.

[00:40:31] Ottawa?

[00:40:32] Yep. Blues Fest.

[00:40:34] Ah.

[00:40:35] And then I saw them again when they came around and they played my favorite album, Seven Son of the Seven Suns, which was my favorite album by them at that time.

[00:40:41] And I was completely blown away by that because like when do you ever get to see one of your favorite bands play one of your favorite records in full?

[00:40:46] You know it doesn't happen all the time.

[00:40:48] No, no especially in your hometown right? You don't have to travel to fucking Sweden for it.

[00:40:51] That's rare. That's always the shit whenever bands tour albums like that.

[00:40:55] It is super rare because it's literally one of like their least like lesser popular albums I think.

[00:41:00] Especially when you think of that era like Peace of Mind and Power Slave, it's like why wouldn't they do one of those records?

[00:41:05] I'm finding that's more of like a thing they're doing now too.

[00:41:08] It's like a trend where it's like come see so-and-so play the whatever 1986 hit album fucking in full and they'll play like the deep cuts and the B-sides in track listing order.

[00:41:19] They had a big ass organ.

[00:41:21] It was like these massive pipes and everything was like Jesus fucking Christ this shit's crazy.

[00:41:25] Didn't we just see Wilhelm scream dupe all a party crash or?

[00:41:28] We did yeah we did.

[00:41:29] Like they just yeah.

[00:41:30] At the Dom.

[00:41:31] Yeah yeah.

[00:41:32] Yeah that was cool.

[00:41:33] Cool man.

[00:41:37] First concert.

[00:41:39] Frig.

[00:41:40] Embarrassingly enough I think it was probably like Warped Tour when I was like 13 or 14.

[00:41:45] Jonas Brothers.

[00:41:46] Yeah.

[00:41:47] So your first concert was all the bands.

[00:41:49] Yeah yeah.

[00:41:50] Very good.

[00:41:51] It wasn't anything it wasn't anything as cool as Metallica.

[00:41:54] No.

[00:41:55] Or Iron Maiden sorry.

[00:41:56] My first band my first my first show was seeing all the bands playing a robust 24 minute set.

[00:42:02] Yeah yeah.

[00:42:04] Okay.

[00:42:06] Where am I now?

[00:42:09] If you if Thundercaw could open for any band.

[00:42:13] Who would that be?

[00:42:17] Oh my God.

[00:42:18] Oh my God.

[00:42:19] Judas Priest man.

[00:42:20] Yeah yes.

[00:42:21] Fucking.

[00:42:22] I know that's an easy one.

[00:42:23] Yeah that would be the shit.

[00:42:24] They like Rob Halford specifically like is a fucking angel and leather fucking assless

[00:42:29] chaps.

[00:42:30] I want to get a Rob Halford tattoo really bad.

[00:42:32] No I would love to get Robert Halford tattoo that'd be dope.

[00:42:35] My friend Jordan my producer he sent me this kind of song that he thought was punk

[00:42:39] rock just a instrumental track and he's like here use this I don't know what to

[00:42:44] do with it.

[00:42:45] And all I heard was like British Steel like I heard or I heard like that.

[00:42:50] Hell yeah.

[00:42:51] So it was I wrote lyrics and did like Rob Halford inspired thing and it's called

[00:42:58] Bleeding Gasoline.

[00:43:00] Oh hell yeah.

[00:43:01] I like that.

[00:43:02] It's about a biker just draped in leather who wipes out but the leather wasn't wasn't

[00:43:06] wasn't strong enough to stop the road rash.

[00:43:09] And now he's bleeding gasoline.

[00:43:11] Yo I like that.

[00:43:12] It was a cool song.

[00:43:13] Cool.

[00:43:15] Trademark.

[00:43:16] No.

[00:43:17] OK next.

[00:43:18] Where am I here.

[00:43:23] If you got it if you could if you had a time machine and you could go back to

[00:43:28] any musical moment from the past what would it be.

[00:43:35] For me that's that's an easy that's an easy question.

[00:43:38] Death is death and Chuck Scholder have been like or even Pantera have been like

[00:43:41] such massive musical influences for me.

[00:43:43] So I think it would be definitely like a leprosy era death show.

[00:43:49] Cool man.

[00:43:51] Anybody in all of history playing any music anything you want you have a

[00:43:56] DeLorean maybe go like what's what's that set that Black Sabbath played in

[00:44:04] California where they were wearing all white and had the rainbows all over

[00:44:07] the stage.

[00:44:08] Oh yeah.

[00:44:09] I forget.

[00:44:10] I'll be tight.

[00:44:11] Yeah.

[00:44:12] I'd like to see like old Black Sabbath like back in the day when they were

[00:44:15] young young that would be amazing.

[00:44:16] Back when Ozzy was doing the leapfrog.

[00:44:18] Yeah.

[00:44:19] Ozzy so cool.

[00:44:20] Yeah.

[00:44:21] Poor Ozzy.

[00:44:22] He's getting he's getting up there.

[00:44:23] Did you didn't even just retire.

[00:44:25] I think so.

[00:44:26] Sharon must have enough money.

[00:44:27] How crazy is it that that man is still up and walking after like his

[00:44:31] his past and shit we were talking about because we were ripping Dio on the

[00:44:34] way down to the Kingston show which was the first show of the tour.

[00:44:37] How did Dio die before.

[00:44:38] And like obviously you I wouldn't trade either one for the other but it's like

[00:44:41] crazy to think that Dio died like at a pretty young age and he was like 60

[00:44:45] years old or something like that.

[00:44:46] And Ozzy is still ripping around.

[00:44:47] He dropped an album like four years ago.

[00:44:49] I know it's crazy.

[00:44:50] Post Malone the producer.

[00:44:51] Yeah that that that that that I think that last Ozzy record was very I

[00:44:55] think it had like every song had like nine guest musicians and writers

[00:45:00] and it's Sharon dude.

[00:45:01] Yeah.

[00:45:02] Yeah it had it had Ozzy on some of the songs but it was pretty good.

[00:45:07] OK if you could have a drink or a meal or oh god damn it I screwed up a

[00:45:14] concert I should can I re-answer that concert question.

[00:45:16] Yeah go back.

[00:45:17] I messed that up.

[00:45:19] I would go back to Woodstock 99.

[00:45:22] Oh for the time machine one way during the Limp Bizkit.

[00:45:26] Yes.

[00:45:27] Oh my God.

[00:45:28] That would be so crazy.

[00:45:30] Oh man.

[00:45:31] I'm not sure if that's the call the crowd down.

[00:45:33] He just like fuck this.

[00:45:35] And you saw Creed play earlier in the day.

[00:45:38] Yeah.

[00:45:39] And then later on you might get to see corn or something.

[00:45:41] I would definitely stick around for corn as a massive issue.

[00:45:44] Did you guys watch the documentary on that.

[00:45:46] Yeah that's it's crazy recent one.

[00:45:47] It's dark.

[00:45:48] I couldn't get I couldn't get by the fucking shit and piss in the mud.

[00:45:51] Yeah.

[00:45:52] Or they're just sliding through it.

[00:45:53] I just couldn't get by Rockfest 2016.

[00:45:56] That's all that's all the fucking ground was was just shit and piss and dirt.

[00:46:00] Could have gone back in time and seen an animated Mozart.

[00:46:03] Hell no.

[00:46:04] Show me the shit and piss urinals while Fred Durst says yeah.

[00:46:08] Yeah.

[00:46:10] Fucking Fred.

[00:46:12] Poor old Fred.

[00:46:13] Do you see him lately.

[00:46:14] Anyway oh man he's cowboy hat and his old man hair and shit.

[00:46:17] I don't know what's going on there.

[00:46:18] We got we got tickets to see him in the summer is like kind of a meme.

[00:46:22] Oh yeah.

[00:46:23] Corey Feldman is Corey Feldman's opening.

[00:46:25] Corey Feldman is like he's he's going around talking about like he's opening for fucking Jesus.

[00:46:31] Yeah.

[00:46:32] Oh did you did you hear I'm opening for Limp Bizkit.

[00:46:34] I'm touring with Limp Bizkit.

[00:46:35] It's like that's not always the greatest fucking thing to do.

[00:46:38] I guess for your Corey Feldman it is.

[00:46:40] That dude's having a hard time.

[00:46:41] Oh man Corey Feldman's out of his mind and you know no offense to people that are actually out of their minds but he's fucking out of his mind.

[00:46:48] Oh yeah.

[00:46:49] Yeah.

[00:46:50] Corey's too in his mind.

[00:46:52] Oh that's fucking profoundly deep right there.

[00:46:55] OK if you could have a drink or a meal or something with anybody alive or dead who to be.

[00:47:12] Man I'd have like 20 drinks with Lemmy.

[00:47:17] I think that would be my choice like get excessive no food skipping dinner.

[00:47:25] I feel like I would have dinner with Joe Biden because I have like an inkling that I could like trick him into giving me some kind of like state power somewhere.

[00:47:34] Well if I could become like an emissary or something maybe.

[00:47:38] Joe Biden usually sends puts comments on each episode.

[00:47:42] He listens and he's an avid listener so next time I talk to him I'll let him know.

[00:47:46] Joe please call me.

[00:47:47] Yeah last question.

[00:47:48] Hunter turn me on to this show.

[00:47:51] Last question of 13 questions with Thundercock.

[00:47:54] Who is Thundercock?

[00:47:58] You get to answer this one Nick.

[00:47:59] Thundercock is a legal entity that is claiming tax exemption in Canada and different parts of Europe.

[00:48:08] I knew you were going to say that.

[00:48:10] Word for word.

[00:48:11] They hate me dude.

[00:48:15] Cool man.

[00:48:16] Well thank you guys so much for being on the podcast.

[00:48:19] It was a lot of fun.

[00:48:20] Yeah man thanks for having us.

[00:48:21] Maybe let's do it again down the road and we get all five guys in here tearing my house apart.

[00:48:25] Oh hell yeah absolutely.

[00:48:27] And maybe I'll go back to the two part episodes and we'll get into some of those stories.

[00:48:31] Man if the viewers want it we'll do it.

[00:48:32] Hey man I can always put like some kind of weird banner over top saying listen with care.

[00:48:38] That's it.

[00:48:39] Anyway but I wish you all the best in the future and listen to the new record.

[00:48:44] Life is a nightmare because sometimes it sure is.

[00:48:46] Oh yeah.

[00:48:47] And go see these guys live because the live show is fucking out of like the live show is fucking Corey Feldman.

[00:48:55] Out of its mind.

[00:48:56] We are Ottawa's Corey Feldman.

[00:48:58] We are Ottawa's answer to Corey Feldman.

[00:48:59] Yes.

[00:49:00] Alright thank you so much.

[00:49:01] Take care.

[00:49:02] Peace out.

[00:49:03] Thanks.

[00:49:14] So you swiped right, cause you're kind of curious.

[00:49:29] Evil in her eyes, blow jobs so furious.

[00:49:34] She's coming into town with a band of dust.

[00:49:40] Left her kid with grandma cause she doesn't give a fuck.

[00:49:48] She likes to drink a lot.

[00:49:53] She bought a brand new car.

[00:49:56] You want to go to bed, you can't fall asleep.

[00:50:01] She dropped you in bed cause daycare isn't cheap.

[00:50:09] She likes to drink and drive.

[00:50:14] She doesn't sleep at night.

[00:50:19] She likes to be choked.

[00:50:24] Cause city remote.

[00:50:28] You gotta beware or you'll be untickered.

[00:50:33] Luckily the single moms aren't blinded.

[00:50:39] Single mom.

[00:50:41] Single mom.

[00:50:44] Single mom.

[00:51:09] Single mom.

[00:51:20] Single mom.

[00:51:39] Yo, hi.

[00:51:40] That's the end of episode 131.

[00:51:42] I'd like to thank Garrett and Nick for coming by and representing Thundercock on the podcast.

[00:51:50] That's one check off the bucket list.

[00:51:53] If you want to check out the podcast, you can always go to egoandvicepodcast.com.

[00:51:58] It is the hub, the EQ, the center of the universe, the fortress of solitude, all things Ego and Vice lead and go start and end there.

[00:52:08] So, whatever format, whatever site you want to use, the link is there my friends.

[00:52:14] If you want to get a hold of me, you can always email me at egoandvice.gmail.com.

[00:52:19] If you want to be on the show, if you want to leave a comment, if you want to leave a nasty comment, hey, free country I suppose, to a certain degree right?

[00:52:32] Yeah that's it, fuck it. See you next week.

[00:52:38] I'm on a race in South Tee Bay, low class punk ass, I was Northwood grade.

[00:52:49] I had it made, spent my nights drinking with my mates.

[00:52:58] Just a short bus ride up to P.A.

[00:53:01] Red River Red

[00:53:06] Then I hit the wall and I knew I had to bounce.

[00:53:11] They still say that?

[00:53:13] Nineteen years ago, hell I got the hill out.

[00:53:19] From time to time you may see me hanging around them.

[00:53:26] Now I feel like a stranger in this town.

[00:53:34] Cracks and Roses where I learn to play.

[00:53:38] Westwood Taverns where I learn to walk away.